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weever wrote:15000 inocent greeks(men woman children) why you dont this is because...
the jews hid it trying to cover it up. thats why no one knows this.there are diffrent types of perspectives in history. there is history from the conquers and history from the conquerd. obviosly the jews (conquers) wrote a diffrent point of view because they wanted no one to know. they wrote it the way they wanted people to see it. the greeks( conquerds) were not able to write the history because the jews didnt let them our most of them were dead.
also what you probly dont know is the jews helped invent communisim Leon Trotsky one of the inventors of comunisim he was jewish. Karl Liebknecht another communist leader who was jewish.
same thing with columbus(conquerd) he is potrayed as a hero who discoverd the americas. but what you probly dont know is that he killed thousands of innocent indians. we dont know this because he wrote the history and he didnt want us to see that
Balsiefen wrote:Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment. The only mistake its inventors made was thinking that any roup of people will ever be perfect or content.
In the second century BCE, during the time of the Second Temple, the Syrian-Greek empire, under the emperor Antiochus, began a systematic suppression of the Jewish religion. Numerous decrees were made forbidding, on pain of torture and death, important practices of Judaism, such as circumcision, and compelling the Jews to worship the Greek idols. In addition, the Greek forces massacred and enslaved thousands of Jews and plundered and defiled the Holy Temple in Jerusalem.
The Jewish rebellion against this oppression began as a small revolt led by the Chashmonai (Hasmonean) family, the kohein (priest) Mattisyahu and his five sons. When Mattisyahu died he was succeeded by his son, Yehudah HaMakabee (the Maccabee).
Yehuda led the Jews to victory, driving the Greeks out of Jerusalem. The Jews were then able to clean the Temple and to resume the Temple service. This took place on the 25th of Kislev.
At this point the famous "miracle of the lights" took place. Part of the Temple service is the lighting of the menorah. This requires ritually pure olive oil. Due to the Greek desecration of the Temple no such oil could be found except for one small container which contained enough oil to last for one day. Since it would take eight days to get the required new oil this was a serious problem. The Jews used this oil for the first day and it miraculously lasted for the full eight days till new oil was available.
The Jewish victory celebrated on Chanukah was primarily a religious victory, it ended the suppression of Judaism but the Jewish state continued to be under Greek political control to a large degree. (Ultimately, the Chashmonaim (Hasmoneans) did succeed in attaining political independence for the Jewish nation, but this was a long process and was not completed until some time after the death of Yehuda HaMakabee.) The holiday of Chanukah is named after the rededication of the Holy Temple, Chanukah means 'dedication ceremony' or 'inauguration'.
Simonov wrote:In the second century BCE, during the time of the Second Temple, the Syrian-Greek empire, under the emperor Antiochus, began a systematic suppression of the Jewish religion. Numerous decrees were made forbidding, on pain of torture and death, important practices of Judaism, such as circumcision, and compelling the Jews to worship the Greek idols. In addition, the Greek forces massacred and enslaved thousands of Jews and plundered and defiled the Holy Temple in Jerusalem.
The Jewish rebellion against this oppression began as a small revolt led by the Chashmonai (Hasmonean) family, the kohein (priest) Mattisyahu and his five sons. When Mattisyahu died he was succeeded by his son, Yehudah HaMakabee (the Maccabee).
Yehuda led the Jews to victory, driving the Greeks out of Jerusalem. The Jews were then able to clean the Temple and to resume the Temple service. This took place on the 25th of Kislev.
At this point the famous "miracle of the lights" took place. Part of the Temple service is the lighting of the menorah. This requires ritually pure olive oil. Due to the Greek desecration of the Temple no such oil could be found except for one small container which contained enough oil to last for one day. Since it would take eight days to get the required new oil this was a serious problem. The Jews used this oil for the first day and it miraculously lasted for the full eight days till new oil was available.
The Jewish victory celebrated on Chanukah was primarily a religious victory, it ended the suppression of Judaism but the Jewish state continued to be under Greek political control to a large degree. (Ultimately, the Chashmonaim (Hasmoneans) did succeed in attaining political independence for the Jewish nation, but this was a long process and was not completed until some time after the death of Yehuda HaMakabee.) The holiday of Chanukah is named after the rededication of the Holy Temple, Chanukah means 'dedication ceremony' or 'inauguration'.
i think this would be true. greeks weren't innocent in this story.
Anarchy Ninja wrote:Despite the fact that what your saying seems to be false, your not comparing an excellent economic system with the death of thousands are you? It does neither side justice.
Balsiefen wrote:weever wrote:15000 inocent greeks(men woman children) why you dont this is because...
the jews hid it trying to cover it up. thats why no one knows this.there are diffrent types of perspectives in history. there is history from the conquers and history from the conquerd. obviosly the jews (conquers) wrote a diffrent point of view because they wanted no one to know. they wrote it the way they wanted people to see it. the greeks( conquerds) were not able to write the history because the jews didnt let them our most of them were dead.
Would you like to quote any Accurate and reliable scources on this?also what you probly dont know is the jews helped invent communisim Leon Trotsky one of the inventors of comunisim he was jewish. Karl Liebknecht another communist leader who was jewish.
But all the rest of the communists were christians! just because a few jews were doesn't mean it was a Jewish conspiricy theory!Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment. The only mistake its inventors made was thinking that any roup of people will ever be perfect or content.
same thing with columbus(conquerd) he is potrayed as a hero who discoverd the americas. but what you probly dont know is that he killed thousands of innocent indians. we dont know this because he wrote the history and he didnt want us to see that
Of course everyone knows he killed hundreds of indians, so did every explorer of that age, In my country at least he is only seen as a greakt exlorer, not a hero. Just as Alexander the great was a great general but also responcible for many times more deaths than columbus
Balsiefen wrote:also what you probly dont know is the jews helped invent communisim Leon Trotsky one of the inventors of comunisim he was jewish. Karl Liebknecht another communist leader who was jewish.
But all the rest of the communists were christians! just because a few jews were doesn't mean it was a Jewish conspiricy theory!
No, he believes fact, not fiction like you do. But your rantings against Jews aren't the first I've seen, and probably not the last. It is historical FACT that Jews, through the millenia, have been the most discriminated against people. (FYI, I'm not Jewish, but Catholic) There is also a point to be open minded, like believing crap like this.weever wrote:Aegnor wrote:The jews conquered the greek? On what planet do you live?
i live on planet earth with my eye mind and ears open . unlike you.
thats cool you may belive what is popular and what is in the text book.
Stupid thread,started by a stupid person. And from now on, I also think we should ignore the little pest.Kaplowitz wrote:Ill show you how a jew massacres. bitch.
but seriously, this is a really stupid thread.
Actually, this is the history of St. Valentine's Day.unriggable wrote:Weever, while you're at it, allow me to let you in on some history:
Valentine's day is the holiday in which we celebrate Al Capone gunning down six mobsters. The holiday is about love, love for alcohol during an age of prohibition.
muy_thaiguy wrote:Actually, this is the history of St. Valentine's Day.unriggable wrote:Weever, while you're at it, allow me to let you in on some history:
Valentine's day is the holiday in which we celebrate Al Capone gunning down six mobsters. The holiday is about love, love for alcohol during an age of prohibition.
http://www.pictureframes.co.uk/pages/saint_valentine.htm
Once again, I blame the internet, I can't tell if someone is telling a joke or not, unless it is bluntly obvious. My apologies.unriggable wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:Actually, this is the history of St. Valentine's Day.unriggable wrote:Weever, while you're at it, allow me to let you in on some history:
Valentine's day is the holiday in which we celebrate Al Capone gunning down six mobsters. The holiday is about love, love for alcohol during an age of prohibition.
http://www.pictureframes.co.uk/pages/saint_valentine.htm
It was a joke.
Wayne wrote:Wow, with a voice like that Dancing Mustard must get all the babes!
Garth wrote:Yeah, I bet he's totally studly and buff.
Simonov wrote:Balsiefen wrote:Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment. The only mistake its inventors made was thinking that any roup of people will ever be perfect or content.
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Norse wrote:Simonov wrote:Balsiefen wrote:Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment. The only mistake its inventors made was thinking that any roup of people will ever be perfect or content.
My opinion of both of you has plummeted dramatically.
Just because you may be poor, doesnt mean you have to drag the rest of the world down with you.
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