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Postby weever on Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:37 pm

15000 inocent greeks(men woman children) why you dont this is because...
the jews hid it trying to cover it up. thats why no one knows this.there are diffrent types of perspectives in history. there is history from the conquers and history from the conquerd. obviosly the jews (conquers) wrote a diffrent point of view because they wanted no one to know. they wrote it the way they wanted people to see it. the greeks( conquerds) were not able to write the history because the jews didnt let them our most of them were dead. also what you probly dont know is the jews helped invent communisim Leon Trotsky one of the inventors of comunisim he was jewish. Karl Liebknecht another communist leader who was jewish.

same thing with columbus(conquerd) he is potrayed as a hero who discoverd the americas. but what you probly dont know is that he killed thousands of innocent indians. we dont know this because he wrote the history and he didnt want us to see that
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Postby Aegnor on Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:08 am

The jews conquered the greek? On what planet do you live?
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Postby Anarchy Ninja on Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:15 am

Despite the fact that what your saying seems to be false, your not comparing an excellent economic system with the death of thousands are you? It does neither side justice.
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Postby Hitman079 on Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:38 am

Uncyclopedia wrote:As it is a well know fact within Judaism, all Jewish holidays are based upon these three principles:

* They tried to kill us.
* They failed.
* Let's eat!
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Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Postby Balsiefen on Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:20 am

weever wrote:15000 inocent greeks(men woman children) why you dont this is because...
the jews hid it trying to cover it up. thats why no one knows this.there are diffrent types of perspectives in history. there is history from the conquers and history from the conquerd. obviosly the jews (conquers) wrote a diffrent point of view because they wanted no one to know. they wrote it the way they wanted people to see it. the greeks( conquerds) were not able to write the history because the jews didnt let them our most of them were dead.

Would you like to quote any Accurate and reliable scources on this?

also what you probly dont know is the jews helped invent communisim Leon Trotsky one of the inventors of comunisim he was jewish. Karl Liebknecht another communist leader who was jewish.

But all the rest of the communists were christians! just because a few jews were doesn't mean it was a Jewish conspiricy theory! :roll: Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment. The only mistake its inventors made was thinking that any roup of people will ever be perfect or content.

same thing with columbus(conquerd) he is potrayed as a hero who discoverd the americas. but what you probly dont know is that he killed thousands of innocent indians. we dont know this because he wrote the history and he didnt want us to see that

Of course everyone knows he killed hundreds of indians, so did every explorer of that age, In my country at least he is only seen as a greakt exlorer, not a hero. Just as Alexander the great was a great general but also responcible for many times more deaths than columbus
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Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Postby Simonov on Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:34 am

Balsiefen wrote:Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment. The only mistake its inventors made was thinking that any roup of people will ever be perfect or content.


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Postby Simonov on Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:44 am

In the second century BCE, during the time of the Second Temple, the Syrian-Greek empire, under the emperor Antiochus, began a systematic suppression of the Jewish religion. Numerous decrees were made forbidding, on pain of torture and death, important practices of Judaism, such as circumcision, and compelling the Jews to worship the Greek idols. In addition, the Greek forces massacred and enslaved thousands of Jews and plundered and defiled the Holy Temple in Jerusalem.

The Jewish rebellion against this oppression began as a small revolt led by the Chashmonai (Hasmonean) family, the kohein (priest) Mattisyahu and his five sons. When Mattisyahu died he was succeeded by his son, Yehudah HaMakabee (the Maccabee).

Yehuda led the Jews to victory, driving the Greeks out of Jerusalem. The Jews were then able to clean the Temple and to resume the Temple service. This took place on the 25th of Kislev.

At this point the famous "miracle of the lights" took place. Part of the Temple service is the lighting of the menorah. This requires ritually pure olive oil. Due to the Greek desecration of the Temple no such oil could be found except for one small container which contained enough oil to last for one day. Since it would take eight days to get the required new oil this was a serious problem. The Jews used this oil for the first day and it miraculously lasted for the full eight days till new oil was available.

The Jewish victory celebrated on Chanukah was primarily a religious victory, it ended the suppression of Judaism but the Jewish state continued to be under Greek political control to a large degree. (Ultimately, the Chashmonaim (Hasmoneans) did succeed in attaining political independence for the Jewish nation, but this was a long process and was not completed until some time after the death of Yehuda HaMakabee.) The holiday of Chanukah is named after the rededication of the Holy Temple, Chanukah means 'dedication ceremony' or 'inauguration'.


i think this would be true. greeks weren't innocent in this story.
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Postby weever on Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:14 am

Simonov wrote:
In the second century BCE, during the time of the Second Temple, the Syrian-Greek empire, under the emperor Antiochus, began a systematic suppression of the Jewish religion. Numerous decrees were made forbidding, on pain of torture and death, important practices of Judaism, such as circumcision, and compelling the Jews to worship the Greek idols. In addition, the Greek forces massacred and enslaved thousands of Jews and plundered and defiled the Holy Temple in Jerusalem.

The Jewish rebellion against this oppression began as a small revolt led by the Chashmonai (Hasmonean) family, the kohein (priest) Mattisyahu and his five sons. When Mattisyahu died he was succeeded by his son, Yehudah HaMakabee (the Maccabee).

Yehuda led the Jews to victory, driving the Greeks out of Jerusalem. The Jews were then able to clean the Temple and to resume the Temple service. This took place on the 25th of Kislev.

At this point the famous "miracle of the lights" took place. Part of the Temple service is the lighting of the menorah. This requires ritually pure olive oil. Due to the Greek desecration of the Temple no such oil could be found except for one small container which contained enough oil to last for one day. Since it would take eight days to get the required new oil this was a serious problem. The Jews used this oil for the first day and it miraculously lasted for the full eight days till new oil was available.

The Jewish victory celebrated on Chanukah was primarily a religious victory, it ended the suppression of Judaism but the Jewish state continued to be under Greek political control to a large degree. (Ultimately, the Chashmonaim (Hasmoneans) did succeed in attaining political independence for the Jewish nation, but this was a long process and was not completed until some time after the death of Yehuda HaMakabee.) The holiday of Chanukah is named after the rededication of the Holy Temple, Chanukah means 'dedication ceremony' or 'inauguration'.


i think this would be true. greeks weren't innocent in this story.


haha did you cut and past that? i got this information from a colloge proffesor. and like i said the jews can write the history how the want it. they can make the history how they wanted it and we wouldnt have a clue.
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Postby weever on Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:17 am

Anarchy Ninja wrote:Despite the fact that what your saying seems to be false, your not comparing an excellent economic system with the death of thousands are you? It does neither side justice.


how would you know its false. where you there. like i said jews had the power to write the history they wanted. just like columbus and just like the rest of the history
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Postby weever on Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:19 am

Aegnor wrote:The jews conquered the greek? On what planet do you live?


i live on planet earth with my eye mind and ears open . unlike you.
thats cool you may belive what is popular and what is in the text book.
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Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Postby weever on Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:21 am

Balsiefen wrote:
weever wrote:15000 inocent greeks(men woman children) why you dont this is because...
the jews hid it trying to cover it up. thats why no one knows this.there are diffrent types of perspectives in history. there is history from the conquers and history from the conquerd. obviosly the jews (conquers) wrote a diffrent point of view because they wanted no one to know. they wrote it the way they wanted people to see it. the greeks( conquerds) were not able to write the history because the jews didnt let them our most of them were dead.

Would you like to quote any Accurate and reliable scources on this?

also what you probly dont know is the jews helped invent communisim Leon Trotsky one of the inventors of comunisim he was jewish. Karl Liebknecht another communist leader who was jewish.

But all the rest of the communists were christians! just because a few jews were doesn't mean it was a Jewish conspiricy theory! :roll: Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment. The only mistake its inventors made was thinking that any roup of people will ever be perfect or content.

same thing with columbus(conquerd) he is potrayed as a hero who discoverd the americas. but what you probly dont know is that he killed thousands of innocent indians. we dont know this because he wrote the history and he didnt want us to see that

Of course everyone knows he killed hundreds of indians, so did every explorer of that age, In my country at least he is only seen as a greakt exlorer, not a hero. Just as Alexander the great was a great general but also responcible for many times more deaths than columbus


thats my point they wrote it down that way. but the jews didnt thats why you dnt know that
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Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Postby btownmeggy on Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:22 am

Balsiefen wrote:
also what you probly dont know is the jews helped invent communisim Leon Trotsky one of the inventors of comunisim he was jewish. Karl Liebknecht another communist leader who was jewish.

But all the rest of the communists were christians! just because a few jews were doesn't mean it was a Jewish conspiricy theory!


Well, really, they were all Atheists.
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:25 am

weever wrote:
Aegnor wrote:The jews conquered the greek? On what planet do you live?


i live on planet earth with my eye mind and ears open . unlike you.
thats cool you may belive what is popular and what is in the text book.
No, he believes fact, not fiction like you do. But your rantings against Jews aren't the first I've seen, and probably not the last. It is historical FACT that Jews, through the millenia, have been the most discriminated against people. (FYI, I'm not Jewish, but Catholic) There is also a point to be open minded, like believing crap like this. :roll:
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Postby Syzygy on Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:55 am

Should we just ignore the troll?
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Postby The1exile on Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:59 am

Syzygy wrote:Should we just ignore the troll?


That's a good idea.

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Postby Aegnor on Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:11 am

Syzygy wrote:Should we just ignore the troll?


I vote yes.
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Postby Kaplowitz on Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:56 am

Ill show you how a jew massacres. bitch.

but seriously, this is a really stupid thread.
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:07 pm

Kaplowitz wrote:Ill show you how a jew massacres. bitch.

but seriously, this is a really stupid thread.
Stupid thread,started by a stupid person. And from now on, I also think we should ignore the little pest.
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Postby unriggable on Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:36 pm

Weever, while you're at it, allow me to let you in on some history:

Valentine's day is the holiday in which we celebrate Al Capone gunning down six mobsters. The holiday is about love, love for alcohol during an age of prohibition.
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:39 pm

unriggable wrote:Weever, while you're at it, allow me to let you in on some history:

Valentine's day is the holiday in which we celebrate Al Capone gunning down six mobsters. The holiday is about love, love for alcohol during an age of prohibition.
Actually, this is the history of St. Valentine's Day.
http://www.pictureframes.co.uk/pages/saint_valentine.htm
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Postby unriggable on Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:41 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
unriggable wrote:Weever, while you're at it, allow me to let you in on some history:

Valentine's day is the holiday in which we celebrate Al Capone gunning down six mobsters. The holiday is about love, love for alcohol during an age of prohibition.
Actually, this is the history of St. Valentine's Day.
http://www.pictureframes.co.uk/pages/saint_valentine.htm


It was a joke.
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:44 pm

unriggable wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
unriggable wrote:Weever, while you're at it, allow me to let you in on some history:

Valentine's day is the holiday in which we celebrate Al Capone gunning down six mobsters. The holiday is about love, love for alcohol during an age of prohibition.
Actually, this is the history of St. Valentine's Day.
http://www.pictureframes.co.uk/pages/saint_valentine.htm


It was a joke.
Once again, I blame the internet, I can't tell if someone is telling a joke or not, unless it is bluntly obvious. My apologies.
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Postby Dancing Mustard on Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:04 pm

There's a persistent typo in all of Weever's posts. When he says 'Jews', he's trying to say 'Atlanteans'. Trust me, once you've figured that out then it makes a lot more sense.
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Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Postby Norse on Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:24 pm

Simonov wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment. The only mistake its inventors made was thinking that any roup of people will ever be perfect or content.


=D>


My opinion of both of you has plummeted dramatically.

Just because you may be poor, doesnt mean you have to drag the rest of the world down with you.
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Postby Arbustos on Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:28 pm

Norse wrote:
Simonov wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment. The only mistake its inventors made was thinking that any roup of people will ever be perfect or content.


=D>


My opinion of both of you has plummeted dramatically.

Just because you may be poor, doesnt mean you have to drag the rest of the world down with you.


I think the point is that in a perfect world being poor is no longer an issue :wink: Then again, capitalism would actually work too *in a perfect world*, so I guess it's just preference. I've never known anything except for the U.S.'s pretend-capitalism, so meh.
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