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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jonesthecurl on Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:30 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:Well, it's now up to 5/million in the US, which invalidates your argument. the numbers have jumped by over 15% in the last day. Which seldom happens with lightning.
Also, in the last year, 38 times as many US residents have died of covid-19 than been killed by lightning, and on a global scale, 67 times as many people have been killed by covid-19 than by lightning strikes.
You could move your argument to something about the difference between "38 times" and "67 times" if that'll help your position. For now.


Actually, I was way out there with the worldwide figure - death from covid-19 globally and from lightning in the last year are approximately equal. But still 38 times higher in the US.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:32 pm

Good Government Update: March 28

Topline:

    - Netherlands overtakes Iran for most per capita deaths from Wuhan Virus
    - Single biggest day of death in C19 history as 900 fatalities registered in Italy
    - In UK, senior members of both Crown and Government clinging to life; concerns that regime may collapse, plunging island into anarchy

Deaths per 1MM People, Wuhan Virus

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/

    1. Europe (Italy) - 151 +15 from previous update
    2. Europe (Spain) - 108 +15
    3. Europe (Netherlands) - 32 +7
    3. Iran - 30 +3
    5. Europe (France) - 30 +5
    6. Europe (Switzerland) - 27 +4
    7. Europe (Belgium) - 25 +6
    8. Europe (Luxembourg) - 25 +10
    9. Europe (UK) - 11 +2
    10. Europe (Denmark) - 9 +2
    ...
    20. United States - 5 +1

Europe followed WHO quarantine advice, Trump's America did not. Thank you President Trump!
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:56 pm

EU Rocked by Infighting; Paralyzed by Politics as Deaths Soar - Bloc May Not Survive

European Union leaders failed to agree on Thursday on the scale of support for their economies battered by the coronavirus, but gave themselves two more weeks to work out details in a dispute between the ailing south and the fiscally conservative north.

Highlighting how the pandemic is testing the bloc’s cohesion, Germany and the Netherlands blocked a call from Italy, Spain and France to issue joint debt to help finance a recovery.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/ ... kage-after
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:59 pm

Please update your signature line to reflect the newest data. Otherwise, saxi, you could be accused of spreading "fake news".

That data is at least THREE days behind.

6. France - 16
...
20. United States - 2

Thank you, President Trump, for Keeping America Safe Again!

saxitoxin wrote:Good Government Update: March 28

Topline:

    - Netherlands overtakes Iran for most per capita deaths from Wuhan Virus
    - Single biggest day of death in C19 history as 900 fatalities registered in Italy
    - In UK, senior members of both Crown and Government clinging to life; concerns that regime may collapse, plunging island into anarchy

Deaths per 1MM People, Wuhan Virus

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/

    1. Europe (Italy) - 151 +15 from previous update
    2. Europe (Spain) - 108 +15
    3. Europe (Netherlands) - 32 +7
    3. Iran - 30 +3
    5. Europe (France) - 30 +5
    6. Europe (Switzerland) - 27 +4
    7. Europe (Belgium) - 25 +6
    8. Europe (Luxembourg) - 25 +10
    9. Europe (UK) - 11 +2
    10. Europe (Denmark) - 9 +2
    ...
    20. United States - 5 +1

Europe followed WHO quarantine advice, Trump's America did not. Thank you President Trump!
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby Maxleod on Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:11 pm

Saxi... Europe, as opposed to the rest of the world, acknowledged it was a pandemic disease, published real figures and took measures.

See you in a few weeks when America is is not special and immune anymore.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:12 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:Saxi's next post about 'winning' against china now that USA has more cases then they do?


He surprised us all. Apparently he's holding off on proclaiming victory over China. Today he proclaimed victory over Earth's atmosphere.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:40 pm

Maxleod wrote:Saxi... Europe, as opposed to the rest of the world, acknowledged it was a pandemic disease, published real figures and took measures.


No, that's not what happened. Europe followed WHO's advice and kept its borders open with China initially while Donald Trump - the Leviathan of the World and Colossus of Man - rejected WHO's advice and decisively closed America's borders. That's why Italy, Spain, the Netherlands, France, etc. have per capita death totals 30 to 60 times higher than the U.S. The evil European "leaders" (thugs) wickedly prioritized their commitment to the ideologies of functionalism and neo-liberalism above their commitment to human life and now they are drowning in corpses.

Maxleod wrote:See you in a few weeks when America is is not special and immune anymore.


Here's a deal that Duk was too afraid to take (because he boasts and brags about what things will be like in the future, knowing he'll never be held to account) ...

    If, on May 1, the U.S.' per capita deaths are less than Italy, you'll quit CC. Otherwise, I will.
You sound confident enough in yourself that this won't be a deal you'd like to miss, right? Or are you just engaging in empty boasts and impotent crowing, like Duk?
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:54 pm

Violent clashes have erupted in Central China over the ChiCom's suppressed disease figures. People ripped riot shields from local police and beat them with them, overturned police cars. Battalions of the People's Armed Police are reported to be converging on Hubei in a desperate bid to try and regain control.

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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby mookiemcgee on Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:03 am

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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby HitRed on Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:11 am

The dud raided grandmother's closet.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jonesthecurl on Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:25 am

HitRed wrote:The dud raided grandmother's closet.


Is it you making that joke, or Jesus?
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby HitRed on Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:05 am

March 27, 20

I call to you from the heart of your Jesus. I come with mercy and kindness, something the world needs at this moment in time. I come to deliver my mercy to all that beg for it. I am the God of Mercy. My heart aches for the world today. The evil that has been perpetrated on the world. My mercy and grace are there for anyone who calls upon me. My heart aches for the souls lost from this evil that has been unleashed on the world.* My grace is there for those that obey my commands and remain in my will.

Always seek my will and my provision in your life. I will always provide for those that follow my will. Come and stay within my heart; there is security and peace. I remain faithful and always near to those that follow my will. Come to me and I will guide you always directly to myself.

I thirst for souls to come to me and abandon themselves to me for I am the way to everlasting life with me. I care very much for each soul for I created each and every one by hand. I call each soul back to me and repentance to my Most Sacred Heart. My mercy is there for anyone that comes to me. I call all hearts back to me at this time of great evil. I stand guard over the hearts that put their trust in me.

Pray for the collapse and end to this virus.

Go in my love and my mercy.


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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jimboston on Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:42 am

jonesthecurl wrote:
HitRed wrote:The dud raided grandmother's closet.


Is it you making that joke, or Jesus?


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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jonesthecurl on Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:24 pm

HitRed wrote:
March 27, 20

I call to you from the heart of your Jesus. I come with mercy and kindness, something the world needs at this moment in time. I come to deliver my mercy to all that beg for it. I am the God of Mercy. My heart aches for the world today. The evil that has been perpetrated on the world. My mercy and grace are there for anyone who calls upon me. My heart aches for the souls lost from this evil that has been unleashed on the world.* My grace is there for those that obey my commands and remain in my will.

Always seek my will and my provision in your life. I will always provide for those that follow my will. Come and stay within my heart; there is security and peace. I remain faithful and always near to those that follow my will. Come to me and I will guide you always directly to myself.

I thirst for souls to come to me and abandon themselves to me for I am the way to everlasting life with me. I care very much for each soul for I created each and every one by hand. I call each soul back to me and repentance to my Most Sacred Heart. My mercy is there for anyone that comes to me. I call all hearts back to me at this time of great evil. I stand guard over the hearts that put their trust in me.

Pray for the collapse and end to this virus.

Go in my love and my mercy.


Later -
The time has been shortened.


Shame that the omnipotent, omniscient guy couldn't have warned you in advance.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby HitRed on Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:46 pm

Beyond Symm, your the only CC user he has directly commented on.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jonesthecurl on Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:04 pm

HitRed wrote:Beyond Symm, your the only CC user he has directly commented on.


Here's some advice: Those voices in your head - they're not real.
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:22 pm

Death Watch Europe: March 29

Topline:

    Reaper Stalks Belgium: Country overtakes Iran for per capita deaths, may soon surge past France

    Demands for Reparations from China: China owns $1 TT of U.S. Treasury Bonds, calls mount for Trump to order the Department of the Treasury to transfer them back to the United States as reparations for the China Virus

    Trump Continues Decisive, Effective Leadership: In continuing decisive action, Trump moves to place amateurish Rat-run state of New York - which is infecting the rest of the country - under military quarantine

    Americans Rally to the Chief: As crisis drags on, the approval ratings of President Donald Trump continue to tick up

Deaths per 1MM People, Wuhan Virus

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/

    1. Europe (Italy) - 167 +16 from previous update
    2. Europe (Spain) - 128 +20
    3. Europe (Netherlands) - 37 (No Change)
    5. Europe (France) - 35 +5
    6. Europe (Switzerland) - 31 +4
    7. Europe (Belgium) - 31 +6
    3. Iran - 31 +1
    8. Europe (Luxembourg) - 30 +5
    9. Europe (UK) - 15 +4
    10. Europe (Denmark) - 11 +2
    ...
    15. United States - 6 +1

Europe followed WHO quarantine advice, Trump's America did not. Thank you President Trump!
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby HitRed on Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:22 pm

March 28, 20

I see you and your heart, how hard you are trying to trust and believe in my power to do all things. I can do much where there is trust and faith in me. I come to lift the hearts of the world at this time of trial and pain.

Come to me the one true God of Heaven and earth. I am the way out of any situation. I am the light that leads the way for all who look to me. Keep your eyes fixed on me the true God of Heaven. I have seen the face of Heavenly Father, he is saddened and grieves for those that have contracted this virus. I have come with my mercy and strength for all who look to me with their hearts. I too grieve for those that have and will lose their life to this virus. Come to me always, I have the way to eternal peace.

Search the Heavens for the gifts of Heaven. I am the way for all believers and nonbelievers alike. My way is straight and true. Follow my will and you will be set free from this evil.

Go on my love and my mercy.

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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby dgz345 on Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:01 am

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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:12 am

US is moving up and NOT in a good way. This is true of the death rate and the infection rate, too.

I predicted that this would happen as:

1) more are tested and

2) the Virus spreads. We need to look at the infection rate as the death rate is only the peak of the data indicating how far the virus has spread.

Sadly, we have not peaked yet. Look at the rate in New York, in particular. Los Angelas and New Orleans are also on the rise.


saxitoxin wrote:Death Watch Europe: March 29

Topline:

    Reaper Stalks Belgium: Country overtakes Iran for per capita deaths, may soon surge past France

    Demands for Reparations from China: China owns $1 TT of U.S. Treasury Bonds, calls mount for Trump to order the Department of the Treasury to transfer them back to the United States as reparations for the China Virus

    Trump Continues Decisive, Effective Leadership: In continuing decisive action, Trump moves to place amateurish Rat-run state of New York - which is infecting the rest of the country - under military quarantine

    Americans Rally to the Chief: As crisis drags on, the approval ratings of President Donald Trump continue to tick up

Deaths per 1MM People, Wuhan Virus

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/

    1. Europe (Italy) - 167 +16 from previous update
    2. Europe (Spain) - 128 +20
    3. Europe (Netherlands) - 37 (No Change)
    5. Europe (France) - 35 +5
    6. Europe (Switzerland) - 31 +4
    7. Europe (Belgium) - 31 +6
    3. Iran - 31 +1
    8. Europe (Luxembourg) - 30 +5
    9. Europe (UK) - 15 +4
    10. Europe (Denmark) - 11 +2
    ...
    15. United States - 6 +1

Europe followed WHO quarantine advice, Trump's America did not. Thank you President Trump!
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:39 am

jusplay4fun wrote:US is moving up and NOT in a good way. This is true of the death rate and the infection rate, too.

I predicted that this would happen as:

1) more are tested and

2) the Virus spreads. We need to look at the infection rate as the death rate is only the peak of the data indicating how far the virus has spread.



Correct, and we can expect more deaths. However, thanks to the decisive action President Trump took early on, the U.S. will come out ahead and on-top of Europe for impact of COVID-19, meaning per capita deaths among Americans will always be a fraction of the worst-hit countries. For whatever reason, the Eye of Providence has chosen to elevate us above the other great nations and is using Donald Trump as His implement to do so.

jusplay4fun wrote:
Sadly, we have not peaked yet. Look at the rate in New York, in particular. Los Angelas and New Orleans are also on the rise.


Yes, unfortunately some states with Democrat governors are so incompetently run that even President Trump's decisive action was not enough to save them. In Louisiana, for instance, the decision of the Rat Governor and Rat Mayor to allow Mardi Gras to go ahead turned it into the #2 epicenter after liberal New York. Even the lying New York Times agrees that "The greatest free party in the world was a perfect incubator at the perfect time."

President Trump could have declared martial law in Louisiana and taken over the government - but that would have been the boat that launched a thousand lawsuits from the seditious Rats. When you're dealing with Rats it's always a case of Damned if you Do, Damned if you Don't. And so the voters of southern Louisiana must now reap what they've sowed and live and die with the consequences of the government they chose. New Orleans made its choice.

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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby Keefie on Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:13 am

Dr Fauci has just announced that the USA could be heading for a death toll between 100 and 200 thousand.

The coronavirus outbreak could kill 100,000 to 200,000 Americans, the government’s top infectious diseases expert warned on Sunday.

Dr Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told CNN’s State of the Union that millions would be infected by the virus.

Dr Fauci, a leading member of President Donald Trump’s coronavirus task force, added, however: “I don’t want to be held to that ... It’s such a moving target that you can so easily be wrong and mislead people.”
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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:30 am

Donald Trump’s comparison of US, South Korea coronavirus testing is wrong. Here's why

The best numbers available don't support what Trump said. As of March 24, about 348,582 people in South Korea had been tested since it began in early February. A credible database of U.S. testing estimates that between March 15 and March 24, the U.S. conducted about 331,000 tests.

These numbers do not reflect the different population sizes: South Korea, about 51.5 million; and the U.S., about 327 million. When you consider per capita testing, which is the more important number, South Korea’s efforts were six times higher than that of the U.S.

The timing of the testing is also an important consideration.


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Re: coronavirus - is this real or hype?

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:38 am

The US could have reacted faster. Trump was slow to respond. As were many other Americans:

But as the deadly virus spread from China with ferocity across the United States between late January and early March, large-scale testing of people who might have been infected did not happen — because of technical flaws, regulatory hurdles, business-as-usual bureaucracies and lack of leadership at multiple levels, according to interviews with more than 50 current and former public health officials, administration officials, senior scientists and company executives.

The result was a lost month, when the world’s richest country — armed with some of the most highly trained scientists and infectious disease specialists — squandered its best chance of containing the virus’s spread. Instead, Americans were left largely blind to the scale of a looming public health catastrophe.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/us/testing-coronavirus-pandemic.html

Warnings Ignored: A Timeline of Trump’s COVID-19 Response

During the critical period between the outbreak in China and the landfall of coronavirus in America, Donald Trump was warned about our general vulnerabilities and the specific actions his administration needed to take to avoid the worst. This is the timeline of how he ignored them.

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https://thebulwark.com/warnings-ignored-a-timeline-of-trumps-covid-19-response/
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