Bernie's Body Count

[what,me worry?]

Nevada: 1st place
Iowa: 1st place
New Hampshire: 2nd place
Texas: 1st place
California: 1st place

Now, why the Bernster you quip? Cuz, Maslow's Hierachy of Needs, bih. We want as many big swinging D's on deck which means as many people as possible to actualize in the United States, ok? ok.

This means voting no on Butt...I mean Buttigieg.... He's already complaining about a recount

And lookie, lookie, he's already butt-hurt

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/2 ... lts-116844

[what,me worry?]

*opens paper and slaps it*

And look at this sh17....

Clint Eastwood finally came back from his mental fugue and leaves Trump to wither in small-hand agony

We may be able to have it all but, for now he's backing Bloomberg

Welcome back Clint!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 850106002/

[NomadPatriot]

Nevada: 1st place
Iowa: 1st place
New Hampshire: 2nd place
Texas: 1st place
California: 1st place

Iowa Caucus results:

Pete Buttigieg - 13 Delegates
Bernie Sanders - 12 Delegates

WMW cannot even read results correctly.. but he quotes Politico.. so..

[betiko]

It’s funny how a republican extremist is going to make a democrat extremist reach power.
Honestly I don’t see how Bernie could win vs trump though.. but I also couldn’t see how trump could beat hilary

[Dukasaur]

It’s funny how a republican extremist is going to make a democrat extremist reach power.
Honestly I don’t see how Bernie could win vs trump though.. but I also couldn’t see how trump could beat hilary

I can see it.

Wasn't it you yourself who said that Bernie only seems extreme when viewed against the weird zeitgeist of American politics? Anywhere in Europe he'd be considered a centrist.

But yeah, I can see Bernie winning because he's the only one who can give the working poor a reason to get out of bed in the morning and go down to the polls on voting day.

If the Dem's nominee is another business-as-usual Republican-in-all-but-name like Pete Butt-plug or Amy Club-car, why would they bother? Their dream of a brighter tomorrow looks pretty much like the Rep's. Bernie is the only offering something different and with it, hope for the future.

Here's the choice facing the American working poor. If Trump wins, or Butt-plug or Club-car wins, your children will live just like you. They will bust their ass from cradle to grave, slaving away for 70 hours a week at three different minimum-wage jobs, none of which offer benefits. Their wages will never be enough to pay all the bills, so life will be lived as a series of deadlines from collection agencies. They will get fatter and fatter, because they'll never have time to cook real food, but will eat all their meals from the drive-through while rushing from one job to the next. Between the overwork, and the stress from the collections calls, and the atrocious drive-through diet, they're sure to work themselves into an early heart attack. At which point they'll find out that half the procedures they need in the hospital aren't actually covered by the health insurance they've been paying through the nose for.

If Bernie wins, your children might actually get a chance to go to university, become doctors or engineers, and break free from this nightmare. And if you do get a heart attack, your national healthcare plan will cover all of the procedures you need, not just half of them.

Voter turnout among the working class normally runs around 60% or something? I can Bernie bringing it up to 90%. That would make all the difference in the world.

[what,me worry?]

He'll win because of the young, the poor, and the Hispanic vote

Knives out for Trump right now

All Bernie needs is the vagina vote which could happen with Warren as VP *chews on cigar* hrmp hrmp hrmp

[what,me worry?]

I truely believe Trump is a danger to national security as he holds great power which is constantly being checked

We have lost our leadership role in the world because of him as ell

Vote for Bloomberg if you'd like to keep padding your offshore bank accounts

[betiko]

It’s funny how a republican extremist is going to make a democrat extremist reach power.
Honestly I don’t see how Bernie could win vs trump though.. but I also couldn’t see how trump could beat hilary

I can see it.

Wasn't it you yourself who said that Bernie only seems extreme when viewed against the weird zeitgeist of American politics? Anywhere in Europe he'd be considered a centrist.

But yeah, I can see Bernie winning because he's the only one who can give the working poor a reason to get out of bed in the morning and go down to the polls on voting day.

If the Dem's nominee is another business-as-usual Republican-in-all-but-name like Pete Butt-plug or Amy Club-car, why would they bother? Their dream of a brighter tomorrow looks pretty much like the Rep's. Bernie is the only offering something different and with it, hope for the future.

Here's the choice facing the American working poor. If Trump wins, or Butt-plug or Club-car wins, your children will live just like you. They will bust their ass from cradle to grave, slaving away for 70 hours a week at three different minimum-wage jobs, none of which offer benefits. Their wages will never be enough to pay all the bills, so life will be lived as a series of deadlines from collection agencies. They will get fatter and fatter, because they'll never have time to cook real food, but will eat all their meals from the drive-through while rushing from one job to the next. Between the overwork, and the stress from the collections calls, and the atrocious drive-through diet, they're sure to work themselves into an early heart attack. At which point they'll find out that half the procedures they need in the hospital aren't actually covered by the health insurance they've been paying through the nose for.

If Bernie wins, your children might actually get a chance to go to university, become doctors or engineers, and break free from this nightmare. And if you do get a heart attack, your national healthcare plan will cover all of the procedures you need, not just half of them.

Voter turnout among the working class normally runs around 60% or something? I can Bernie bringing it up to 90%. That would make all the difference in the world.

No, I said democrats would be centrists... Sanders would definitely be socialist, or moderate left as you would say.
I’d rather see buttplug as you call him. Sanders is a bit too leftie for my taste.

[what,me worry?]

It’s funny how a republican extremist is going to make a democrat extremist reach power.
Honestly I don’t see how Bernie could win vs trump though.. but I also couldn’t see how trump could beat hilary

I can see it.

Wasn't it you yourself who said that Bernie only seems extreme when viewed against the weird zeitgeist of American politics? Anywhere in Europe he'd be considered a centrist.

But yeah, I can see Bernie winning because he's the only one who can give the working poor a reason to get out of bed in the morning and go down to the polls on voting day.

If the Dem's nominee is another business-as-usual Republican-in-all-but-name like Pete Butt-plug or Amy Club-car, why would they bother? Their dream of a brighter tomorrow looks pretty much like the Rep's. Bernie is the only offering something different and with it, hope for the future.

Here's the choice facing the American working poor. If Trump wins, or Butt-plug or Club-car wins, your children will live just like you. They will bust their ass from cradle to grave, slaving away for 70 hours a week at three different minimum-wage jobs, none of which offer benefits. Their wages will never be enough to pay all the bills, so life will be lived as a series of deadlines from collection agencies. They will get fatter and fatter, because they'll never have time to cook real food, but will eat all their meals from the drive-through while rushing from one job to the next. Between the overwork, and the stress from the collections calls, and the atrocious drive-through diet, they're sure to work themselves into an early heart attack. At which point they'll find out that half the procedures they need in the hospital aren't actually covered by the health insurance they've been paying through the nose for.

If Bernie wins, your children might actually get a chance to go to university, become doctors or engineers, and break free from this nightmare. And if you do get a heart attack, your national healthcare plan will cover all of the procedures you need, not just half of them.

Voter turnout among the working class normally runs around 60% or something? I can Bernie bringing it up to 90%. That would make all the difference in the world.

No, I said democrats would be centrists... Sanders would definitely be socialist, or moderate left as you would say.
I’d rather see buttplug as you call him. Sanders is a bit too leftie for my taste.

Democratic Socialist, thank you

[what,me worry?]

It’s funny how a republican extremist is going to make a democrat extremist reach power.
Honestly I don’t see how Bernie could win vs trump though.. but I also couldn’t see how trump could beat hilary

I can see it.

Wasn't it you yourself who said that Bernie only seems extreme when viewed against the weird zeitgeist of American politics? Anywhere in Europe he'd be considered a centrist.

But yeah, I can see Bernie winning because he's the only one who can give the working poor a reason to get out of bed in the morning and go down to the polls on voting day.

If the Dem's nominee is another business-as-usual Republican-in-all-but-name like Pete Butt-plug or Amy Club-car, why would they bother? Their dream of a brighter tomorrow looks pretty much like the Rep's. Bernie is the only offering something different and with it, hope for the future.

Here's the choice facing the American working poor. If Trump wins, or Butt-plug or Club-car wins, your children will live just like you. They will bust their ass from cradle to grave, slaving away for 70 hours a week at three different minimum-wage jobs, none of which offer benefits. Their wages will never be enough to pay all the bills, so life will be lived as a series of deadlines from collection agencies. They will get fatter and fatter, because they'll never have time to cook real food, but will eat all their meals from the drive-through while rushing from one job to the next. Between the overwork, and the stress from the collections calls, and the atrocious drive-through diet, they're sure to work themselves into an early heart attack. At which point they'll find out that half the procedures they need in the hospital aren't actually covered by the health insurance they've been paying through the nose for.

If Bernie wins, your children might actually get a chance to go to university, become doctors or engineers, and break free from this nightmare. And if you do get a heart attack, your national healthcare plan will cover all of the procedures you need, not just half of them.

Voter turnout among the working class normally runs around 60% or something? I can Bernie bringing it up to 90%. That would make all the difference in the world.

No, I said democrats would be centrists... Sanders would definitely be socialist, or moderate left as you would say.
I’d rather see buttplug as you call him. Sanders is a bit too leftie for my taste.

Call 1-800-no-butts

to stop smoking.....

[betiko]

It’s funny how a republican extremist is going to make a democrat extremist reach power.
Honestly I don’t see how Bernie could win vs trump though.. but I also couldn’t see how trump could beat hilary

I can see it.

Wasn't it you yourself who said that Bernie only seems extreme when viewed against the weird zeitgeist of American politics? Anywhere in Europe he'd be considered a centrist.

But yeah, I can see Bernie winning because he's the only one who can give the working poor a reason to get out of bed in the morning and go down to the polls on voting day.

If the Dem's nominee is another business-as-usual Republican-in-all-but-name like Pete Butt-plug or Amy Club-car, why would they bother? Their dream of a brighter tomorrow looks pretty much like the Rep's. Bernie is the only offering something different and with it, hope for the future.

Here's the choice facing the American working poor. If Trump wins, or Butt-plug or Club-car wins, your children will live just like you. They will bust their ass from cradle to grave, slaving away for 70 hours a week at three different minimum-wage jobs, none of which offer benefits. Their wages will never be enough to pay all the bills, so life will be lived as a series of deadlines from collection agencies. They will get fatter and fatter, because they'll never have time to cook real food, but will eat all their meals from the drive-through while rushing from one job to the next. Between the overwork, and the stress from the collections calls, and the atrocious drive-through diet, they're sure to work themselves into an early heart attack. At which point they'll find out that half the procedures they need in the hospital aren't actually covered by the health insurance they've been paying through the nose for.

If Bernie wins, your children might actually get a chance to go to university, become doctors or engineers, and break free from this nightmare. And if you do get a heart attack, your national healthcare plan will cover all of the procedures you need, not just half of them.

Voter turnout among the working class normally runs around 60% or something? I can Bernie bringing it up to 90%. That would make all the difference in the world.

No, I said democrats would be centrists... Sanders would definitely be socialist, or moderate left as you would say.
I’d rather see buttplug as you call him. Sanders is a bit too leftie for my taste.

Democratic Socialist, thank you

what I call socialism is what we call socialism in europe as I'm european and falls within the realm of democracy obviously. Communism is the system that has pretty much always required a dictatorship or a false democracy to stay in place... and if it's not the case, it gets wiped out during the following election. Socialism is a system that has worked pretty well in the last 30-40 years in all Western Europe... as long as they were alternating power with moderate right parties. I think that a healthy democracy and a healthy country need a right balance between socialism and moderate right.

[mookiemcgee]

It’s funny how a republican extremist is going to make a democrat extremist reach power.
Honestly I don’t see how Bernie could win vs trump though.. but I also couldn’t see how trump could beat hilary

I can see it.

Wasn't it you yourself who said that Bernie only seems extreme when viewed against the weird zeitgeist of American politics? Anywhere in Europe he'd be considered a centrist.

But yeah, I can see Bernie winning because he's the only one who can give the working poor a reason to get out of bed in the morning and go down to the polls on voting day.

If the Dem's nominee is another business-as-usual Republican-in-all-but-name like Pete Butt-plug or Amy Club-car, why would they bother? Their dream of a brighter tomorrow looks pretty much like the Rep's. Bernie is the only offering something different and with it, hope for the future.

Here's the choice facing the American working poor. If Trump wins, or Butt-plug or Club-car wins, your children will live just like you. They will bust their ass from cradle to grave, slaving away for 70 hours a week at three different minimum-wage jobs, none of which offer benefits. Their wages will never be enough to pay all the bills, so life will be lived as a series of deadlines from collection agencies. They will get fatter and fatter, because they'll never have time to cook real food, but will eat all their meals from the drive-through while rushing from one job to the next. Between the overwork, and the stress from the collections calls, and the atrocious drive-through diet, they're sure to work themselves into an early heart attack. At which point they'll find out that half the procedures they need in the hospital aren't actually covered by the health insurance they've been paying through the nose for.

If Bernie wins, your children might actually get a chance to go to university, become doctors or engineers, and break free from this nightmare. And if you do get a heart attack, your national healthcare plan will cover all of the procedures you need, not just half of them.

Voter turnout among the working class normally runs around 60% or something? I can Bernie bringing it up to 90%. That would make all the difference in the world.

No, I said democrats would be centrists... Sanders would definitely be socialist, or moderate left as you would say.
I’d rather see buttplug as you call him. Sanders is a bit too leftie for my taste.

Democratic Socialist, thank you

what I call socialism is what we call socialism in europe as I'm european and falls within the realm of democracy obviously. Communism is the system that has pretty much always required a dictatorship or a false democracy to stay in place... and if it's not the case, it gets wiped out during the following election. Socialism is a system that has worked pretty well in the last 30-40 years in all Western Europe... as long as they were alternating power with moderate right parties. I think that a healthy democracy and a healthy country need a right balance between socialism and moderate right.

I don't think buttplug has much of a chance of the middle coalescing around him, I'd say we are at 90% chance of bernie vs Trump with a 95% chance of trump re-election.

[what,me worry?]

John McCain >Trump

Any day of the week

If only The Russians thought of McCain as a puppet president, we wouldn't be in this mess

[what,me worry?]

Hell, even Mitt Romney would be great at this point

Someone who has moral fiber

[betiko]

John McCain >Trump

Any day of the week

If only The Russians thought of McCain as a puppet president, we wouldn't be in this mess

I have to say I kind of liked McCain. I think he was a man respected by his rivals and with a fair share of integrity. Not saying he was perfect, but he would've done a decent job. The Sarah Palin shit as running mate was the worse decision ever. George Bush Senior was ok too.

I think George W was really just an idiot that got the right entourage at the right time with a big Dick C. hand shoveled in his ass using him as a puppet... but the guy wasn't a bad person... just not the brightest and unfit for the job.

On the other hand... Trump is really like this horrible creepy person with the most cringy egotistic personality that thinks he can get away with any bullshit as long as he pretends everything is under control... even when he is completely clueless and incoherent... like... he's really talking to heards of sheeps, just triggering the words they want to hear...

[mrswdk]

Sanders is basically the Democrat version of Trump. He appeals to the same kind of 'f*ck the system' mentality that Trump does, but in a more young, urban kind of way as opposed to an old, Rust Belt kind of way.

When Corbyn tried what Sanders is doing in the UK, the first time round he had a huge success. Sanders is currently on a similar upswing, and the polls seem to suggest he could beat Trump.

The danger with Bernie is he ends up mirroring Corbyn in that his rise to power is followed by him losing all his energy and ending up hedging a lot of his positions to appease his MPs, meaning he gets totally pasted at his second election. Trump and Johnson are much less trustworthy than Corbyn or Sanders, but have done pretty solid jobs of getting their parties to fall in line behind them; Sanders and Corbyn are much more credible, but have parties who seem happy to spend protracted amounts of time engaging in open warfare with their party leader without realising that by doing so they are basically just guaranteeing their opposition gets to hold on to power.

[jusplay4fun]

So you are saying this does not happen NOW? Or has not happened in the past in the USA? That children of working class cannot become engineers? Doctors?

It’s funny how a republican extremist is going to make a democrat extremist reach power.
Honestly I don’t see how Bernie could win vs trump though.. but I also couldn’t see how trump could beat hilary

I can see it.

Wasn't it you yourself who said that Bernie only seems extreme when viewed against the weird zeitgeist of American politics? Anywhere in Europe he'd be considered a centrist.

But yeah, I can see Bernie winning because he's the only one who can give the working poor a reason to get out of bed in the morning and go down to the polls on voting day.

If the Dem's nominee is another business-as-usual Republican-in-all-but-name like Pete Butt-plug or Amy Club-car, why would they bother? Their dream of a brighter tomorrow looks pretty much like the Rep's. Bernie is the only offering something different and with it, hope for the future.

Here's the choice facing the American working poor. If Trump wins, or Butt-plug or Club-car wins, your children will live just like you. They will bust their ass from cradle to grave, slaving away for 70 hours a week at three different minimum-wage jobs, none of which offer benefits. Their wages will never be enough to pay all the bills, so life will be lived as a series of deadlines from collection agencies. They will get fatter and fatter, because they'll never have time to cook real food, but will eat all their meals from the drive-through while rushing from one job to the next. Between the overwork, and the stress from the collections calls, and the atrocious drive-through diet, they're sure to work themselves into an early heart attack. At which point they'll find out that half the procedures they need in the hospital aren't actually covered by the health insurance they've been paying through the nose for.

If Bernie wins, your children might actually get a chance to go to university, become doctors or engineers, and break free from this nightmare. And if you do get a heart attack, your national healthcare plan will cover all of the procedures you need, not just half of them.

Voter turnout among the working class normally runs around 60% or something? I can Bernie bringing it up to 90%. That would make all the difference in the world.

[Dukasaur]

So you are saying this does not happen NOW? Or has not happened in the past in the USA? That children of working class cannot become engineers? Doctors?

It’s funny how a republican extremist is going to make a democrat extremist reach power.
Honestly I don’t see how Bernie could win vs trump though.. but I also couldn’t see how trump could beat hilary

I can see it.

Wasn't it you yourself who said that Bernie only seems extreme when viewed against the weird zeitgeist of American politics? Anywhere in Europe he'd be considered a centrist.

But yeah, I can see Bernie winning because he's the only one who can give the working poor a reason to get out of bed in the morning and go down to the polls on voting day.

If the Dem's nominee is another business-as-usual Republican-in-all-but-name like Pete Butt-plug or Amy Club-car, why would they bother? Their dream of a brighter tomorrow looks pretty much like the Rep's. Bernie is the only offering something different and with it, hope for the future.

Here's the choice facing the American working poor. If Trump wins, or Butt-plug or Club-car wins, your children will live just like you. They will bust their ass from cradle to grave, slaving away for 70 hours a week at three different minimum-wage jobs, none of which offer benefits. Their wages will never be enough to pay all the bills, so life will be lived as a series of deadlines from collection agencies. They will get fatter and fatter, because they'll never have time to cook real food, but will eat all their meals from the drive-through while rushing from one job to the next. Between the overwork, and the stress from the collections calls, and the atrocious drive-through diet, they're sure to work themselves into an early heart attack. At which point they'll find out that half the procedures they need in the hospital aren't actually covered by the health insurance they've been paying through the nose for.

If Bernie wins, your children might actually get a chance to go to university, become doctors or engineers, and break free from this nightmare. And if you do get a heart attack, your national healthcare plan will cover all of the procedures you need, not just half of them.

Voter turnout among the working class normally runs around 60% or something? I can Bernie bringing it up to 90%. That would make all the difference in the world.

Upward mobility did happen in the past. A hundred years ago the class mobility in the U.S. was legendary. A shoeshine boy could become aspire to one day chair the Chamber of Commerce. That has changed. The rich have worked hard at solidifying the class stratification of the U.S. On the one hand, they've raised the price of tuition at the better universities far faster than the rise in incomes. Attending a good school, always challenging for someone from a working class family, is now completely out of the question. On the other hand, recruiters are only interested in graduates from the best universities. Resumes coming from second-tier schools go straight in the garbage, unread. So if your degree is from S.U.N.Y., you'd better really enjoy flipping burgers. Meanwhile, potential loopholes keep getting closed. All kinds of positions that didn't used to require a degree now do.

The result is that the U.S., which once had the best class mobility on the planet, is now among the worst in the industrialized world.

[what,me worry?]

Sanders is basically the Democrat version of Trump. He appeals to the same kind of 'f*ck the system' mentality that Trump does, but in a more young, urban kind of way as opposed to an old, Rust Belt kind of way.

When Corbyn tried what Sanders is doing in the UK, the first time round he had a huge success. Sanders is currently on a similar upswing, and the polls seem to suggest he could beat Trump.

The danger with Bernie is he ends up mirroring Corbyn in that his rise to power is followed by him losing all his energy and ending up hedging a lot of his positions to appease his MPs, meaning he gets totally pasted at his second election. Trump and Johnson are much less trustworthy than Corbyn or Sanders, but have done pretty solid jobs of getting their parties to fall in line behind them; Sanders and Corbyn are much more credible, but have parties who seem happy to spend protracted amounts of time engaging in open warfare with their party leader without realising that by doing so they are basically just guaranteeing their opposition gets to hold on to power.

No, he's a Social-Democrat

So, no he's not philosophically part of the two party system. It's a vehicle to go with a third party and the Democratic part is being used as a vehicle

I'd advise you to stop taking your pointers from The Stormfront and Fox News

[what,me worry?]

Look, Bernie is white

Can't you guys do your white and powerful dress up stuff with Bernie as president? I wish Mike Pence were president right now