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Jesus himself would be denied to enter any race as a Republican.karel wrote:speak for your self,bernie sanders the biggest socialist out there
Do you think it was the colour of his skin or the fact he was a muslim Kenyan that ruined your country?karel wrote:and i guess your one of them idiots who put obama for 8 yrs and completely destroy our countryriskllama wrote:agreed. he's not even a real president - just a distraction. pretty good one of those, tho.Symmetry wrote:Meh, people who put Trump in the top ten are just idiots.

Bernie Sanders wrote:Jesus Christ would make a great President, but the Republicans would brand him a SOCIALIST aka COMMUNIST.

I'm not a scriptural expert, but I'm pretty sure that "concentrate all the wealth in the hands of a tiny minority, then tell the poor to go f*ck themselves" is NOT EXACTLY in tune with Luke 12:15, or with Matthew 6:24, or with 1 Timothy 6:18.tzor wrote:Bernie Sanders wrote:Jesus Christ would make a great President, but the Republicans would brand him a SOCIALIST aka COMMUNIST.
Always love it when people try to project themselves on people, especially Jesus of Nazareth.
The gospels don't have any of his political viewpoints. He obviously didn't consider the current religious authorities with high regard, but he was also very neutral against the Roman Occupying Forces. He would have made a libertarian happy, until he told them "of course you have to pay your taxes, whose face is on the dollar bill?"
Those rules certainly apply to Christians. Whether or not they apply to the non-Christian political world is a different issue entirely. Jesus lived in a time when slavery was common and women were considered chattel but didn't mention either of those topics implying that political circumstances weren't very important to him and shouldn't be important to Christians.Dukasaur wrote:I'm not a scriptural expert, but I'm pretty sure that "concentrate all the wealth in the hands of a tiny minority, then tell the poor to go f*ck themselves" is NOT EXACTLY in tune with Luke 12:15, or with Matthew 6:24, or with 1 Timothy 6:18.tzor wrote:Bernie Sanders wrote:Jesus Christ would make a great President, but the Republicans would brand him a SOCIALIST aka COMMUNIST.
Always love it when people try to project themselves on people, especially Jesus of Nazareth.
The gospels don't have any of his political viewpoints. He obviously didn't consider the current religious authorities with high regard, but he was also very neutral against the Roman Occupying Forces. He would have made a libertarian happy, until he told them "of course you have to pay your taxes, whose face is on the dollar bill?"
That's a very boastful claim, especially when you compare 8 years to 6 months. Ever heard of the term "fluctuation"? Or how about the analogy of comparing Apples to Apples and not Apples to Oranges? Compare Obama and Trump to their first 6 months in office if you want a real analysis on who is better. Not going to do that for you, because I hardly care who is better.karel wrote:You're all f*cking wrong. Trump will win again, he has done better than that shit bag Obama has done in 8 years that Trump has done in 6 months. There are more jobs, stock market at record highs, facts are fact, so suck it up idiots.
Between him firing half the staff, his scare tactics and his abuse of his "friends", it's a wonder on how people still like Trump.karel wrote:Trump knows what he is doing. Fake news such as CNN, MSNBC, and others, will tell any lie to toss Trump under the bus. Fact is, you snow flakes lost, get the f*ck over it.
Hillary blew, no argument. Between both candidates, it was either vote for a stinky piece of shit, or a polished piece of shit. Both suck, and that's the sad reality we faced. I took no part in it and voted for Gary Johnson. Pretty weak candidate, but oh well.karel wrote:Killary was a waste of air, and that bitch will fry in jail soon enough for murder. Just like the lame brain Democrats that keep tossing out jobs. Well what the hell do you think Trump wants to do?
Dafuq did you just write? Did you proof read this? Rhetorical, don't answer. You didn't.karel wrote:And for the whole green card thing, Trump is right, you're not coming over here to live off of welfare. If you have a skill then fine, but if not stay home. Obama was the welfare President, and everyone in the ghetto or slums loved him because of that. Its time for all theses fat over weight asses to get a job.
Sure, I have a problem with Transgenders taking advantage of the military benefits to change their sex while they serve for a bare minimum of three years, but I wouldn't resort to calling them freaks. People with a disorder or mental illness, or a different lifestyle, whatever you want to call it, have every right to pursue whatever dream they want provided it isn't a threat or hostile to others. f*ck off, bigot.karel wrote:Trump is not a welfare President, get over it and move on. Stop living off tax payers you fat asses. (Transgender freaks and who ever goes into that group).
You probably weren't even alive 50 years ago, or remember any of the Presidents in those 50 years to know their accomplishments. I certainly don't, but I can guarantee you, I can go back, and take one of those Presidents, and just shit on your argument if I really wanted to.karel wrote:I'm sick of people bitching about Trump not doing anything. He has done more for this country then any President in the last 50 years. He is not selling out America, but making it better, but you snow flakes will never come to terms about it, so whats the point right? Lame ass welfare people who want everything for free. Well nothing is for free, you have to work for what you want in life.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Sure buddy.tzor wrote:Bernie Sanders wrote:Jesus Christ would make a great President, but the Republicans would brand him a SOCIALIST aka COMMUNIST.
Always love it when people try to project themselves on people, especially Jesus of Nazareth.
The gospels don't have any of his political viewpoints. He obviously didn't consider the current religious authorities with high regard, but he was also very neutral against the Roman Occupying Forces. He would have made a libertarian happy, until he told them "of course you have to pay your taxes, whose face is on the dollar bill?"

Jesus was talking to one man when he said to sell everything he had and give it to the poor. It's not entirely clear if that instruction was for all believers all the time or only for that particular rich man. It comes back to a basic understanding of idolatry. We can presume that the rich man let his riches become an idol to him. It's like God's instruction to Abraham to kill his son. It's an instruction to give up a possible idol and it is directed at one particular person in the bible. It is not meant to be read as an instruction to everyone else.Bernie Sanders wrote:Sure buddy.tzor wrote:Bernie Sanders wrote:Jesus Christ would make a great President, but the Republicans would brand him a SOCIALIST aka COMMUNIST.
Always love it when people try to project themselves on people, especially Jesus of Nazareth.
The gospels don't have any of his political viewpoints. He obviously didn't consider the current religious authorities with high regard, but he was also very neutral against the Roman Occupying Forces. He would have made a libertarian happy, until he told them "of course you have to pay your taxes, whose face is on the dollar bill?"
I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
For what shall it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his soul?
If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.
Give to everyone who begs from you; and of him who takes away your goods do not ask them again. And as you wish that men would do to you, do so to them.
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Oh oh, tzor has wrote another thing I agree with.tzor wrote:Bernie Sanders wrote:Jesus Christ would make a great President, but the Republicans would brand him a SOCIALIST aka COMMUNIST.
Always love it when people try to project themselves on people, especially Jesus of Nazareth.
The gospels don't have any of his political viewpoints. He obviously didn't consider the current religious authorities with high regard, but he was also very neutral against the Roman Occupying Forces. He would have made a libertarian happy, until he told them "of course you have to pay your taxes, whose face is on the dollar bill?"
When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”Bernie Sanders wrote:
I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
“With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
That's a pretty shitty argument yoshi. If what you say is true there would be a bunch of examples of Jesus contradicting this statement in the bible also. I'm highly doubtful you can find quotes in the new testament where Jesus say's "save all your money, buy loads of stuff, don't give to the poor. the one who dies with the most toys wins".DoomYoshi wrote:Jesus was talking to one man when he said to sell everything he had and give it to the poor. It's not entirely clear if that instruction was for all believers all the time or only for that particular rich man. It comes back to a basic understanding of idolatry. We can presume that the rich man let his riches become an idol to him. It's like God's instruction to Abraham to kill his son. It's an instruction to give up a possible idol and it is directed at one particular person in the bible. It is not meant to be read as an instruction to everyone else.Bernie Sanders wrote:Sure buddy.tzor wrote:Bernie Sanders wrote:Jesus Christ would make a great President, but the Republicans would brand him a SOCIALIST aka COMMUNIST.
Always love it when people try to project themselves on people, especially Jesus of Nazareth.
The gospels don't have any of his political viewpoints. He obviously didn't consider the current religious authorities with high regard, but he was also very neutral against the Roman Occupying Forces. He would have made a libertarian happy, until he told them "of course you have to pay your taxes, whose face is on the dollar bill?"
I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
For what shall it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his soul?
If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.
Give to everyone who begs from you; and of him who takes away your goods do not ask them again. And as you wish that men would do to you, do so to them.
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Obviously, intermediate states exist, but would you or would you not agree that Jesus was on the "kind and generous" part of the spectrum?DoomYoshi wrote:Oh, I didn't realize we live in a binary world where the only options are "Give Everything" and "Save Everything". Sorry I missed the memo on that one.
Not saying the world is binary ... but jesus' message... pretty binary bro. If it wasn't you could find some of examples of him saying the opposite of what he said to this guy. If what he said to this guy was a '0', you could find a message that directly contradicts it (1). Doubtful you can find that in the Jesus part of the bible.DoomYoshi wrote:Oh, I didn't realize we live in a binary world where the only options are "Give Everything" and "Save Everything". Sorry I missed the memo on that one.
Well, let's see ...Dukasaur wrote:I'm not a scriptural expert, but I'm pretty sure that "concentrate all the wealth in the hands of a tiny minority, then tell the poor to go f*ck themselves" is NOT EXACTLY in tune with Luke 12:15, or with Matthew 6:24, or with 1 Timothy 6:18.
Again this is advice for the person who has wealth not to rely on that wealth. It doesn't suggest that this wealth is, in and of itself, bad. true richness, Paul insists, is in good works, not in coin or property. But he is not telling Caesar to take the money from the rich man; because that wealth is uncertain. He doesn't tell Caesar to force the man to do good works, he tells the man directly, just as he would tell anyone to do good works.Tell the rich in the present age not to be proud and not to rely on so uncertain a thing as wealth but rather on God, who richly provides us with all things for our enjoyment. Tell them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous, ready to share,thus accumulating as treasure a good foundation for the future, so as to win the life that is true life.

You still haven't listed the Trump policies that have led to these great results.karel wrote:your all f*cking wrong,trump will win again,he has only done better then that chit bag obama has done in 8 yrs that trump has done in 6 months,more jobs,stock market at record highs,facts are fact ,so suck it up idiots,trumpknows what he is doing,only if fake news cnn,msnbc,and other will tell any lie to toss trump under the bus,fact is you snow flakes lost get the f*ck over it,killary was was a waste of air,anf that b*tch will fry in jail soon enough for murder,just like them lame brain dems keep tossing out there job,jobs,well what the hell you think trump wants to do.And for the whole green card thing trump is right,your not coming over here to live off welfare,if you have a skill then fine,but if not stay home,obama was the welfare prez,and everyone in the ghetto or slums loved him cuz of that,its time for all theses fat over weight asses to get a job.trump is not a welfare prez,s get over it and move on,stop living off tax payers you fat asses,transgender freaks and who ever goes into that group,im sick of people b*tching about trump not doing anything,he has done more for this country then any prez in last 50 yrs,he is not selling out america,but making it better,but you snow flakes will never come to terms about it,so whats the point right?lame azz welfare people who want everything for free,well nothing is for free,you have to wrk for what you want in life
Yes I can find examples of him saying it both ways.mookiemcgee wrote:Not saying the world is binary ... but jesus' message... pretty binary bro. If it wasn't you could find some of examples of him saying the opposite of what he said to this guy. If what he said to this guy was a '0', you could find a message that directly contradicts it (1). Doubtful you can find that in the Jesus part of the bible.DoomYoshi wrote:Oh, I didn't realize we live in a binary world where the only options are "Give Everything" and "Save Everything". Sorry I missed the memo on that one.
Later on, at the Last Supper he tells them:After this the Lord appointed seventy-two others and sent them on ahead of him, two by two, into every town and place where he himself was about to go. And he said to them, “The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest. Go your way; behold, I am sending you out as lambs in the midst of wolves. Carry no moneybag, no knapsack, no sandals, and greet no one on the road. Whatever house you enter, first say, ‘Peace be to this house!’ And if a son of peace is there, your peace will rest upon him. But if not, it will return to you. And remain in the same house, eating and drinking what they provide, for the laborer deserves his wages. Do not go from house to house. Whenever you enter a town and they receive you, eat what is set before you. Heal the sick in it and say to them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you.’ But whenever you enter a town and they do not receive you, go into its streets and say, ‘Even the dust of your town that clings to our feet we wipe off against you. Nevertheless know this, that the kingdom of God has come near.’ I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom than for that town.
So if you have a moneybag you are allowed to take it, just not idolize it.And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one. For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.” And they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” And he said to them, “It is enough.”
I would argue that socialism isn't on the kind and generous part of the spectrum. It is up to believers and the church to determine the level of generosity not the government. The government can carry out God's will but they can take something beautiful like generosity and pervert it like scat porno.Dukasaur wrote:Obviously, intermediate states exist, but would you or would you not agree that Jesus was on the "kind and generous" part of the spectrum?DoomYoshi wrote:Oh, I didn't realize we live in a binary world where the only options are "Give Everything" and "Save Everything". Sorry I missed the memo on that one.
"unemployment at all time low,obama all time high......stock market at all times high,obama all time low."karel wrote:unemployment at all time low,obama all time high......stock market at all times high,obama all time low.......more jobs made,saved us more money instead of spending at all times highs.fighting crime at high levels,under obama no crime fighting....he has done this all in 6 months.Obama could nt do this in 8 yrs,so dont tell me trump has not done nothing,wait till his new immigration policy goes into effect,that will save us more money,and wait till his budget comes out,your all jealous cuz your BOY could not do this,and trump is not a pussy like obama was...and wait till he goes after sanctuary cities,hope he cuts fed funding off to states that will not comply,then maybe,just maybe snow flakes will figure it out,but i dont have any faith in that




