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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby safariguy5 on Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:05 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Okay but what's the point of the claim? The whole reason we wanted to lynch the inactive was to advance the game, move it to night phase. You're defeating the purpose of a sacrifice.

This stinks of the capitalist who suppresses and suffocates our freedom. There can be no votes until there are votes for all.

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Not necessarily lynch a person. If the person claims a power role, we might decide to not lynch them. The purpose of pressure is to gain information. That may or may not end in a lynch.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby strike wolf on Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:12 pm

Well since Nag is an experienced player. I am giving him 24 hours to definitively point out all the scum in this game starting yesterday..

In seriousity, I am not willing to hang tails for hypocrisy. The simple answer is he is right and the proletarians should agree. ;) as fast as he is being criticized for his current action, voting an inactive after coming back from inactivity would get him lynched much faster.

As for why I am being accused, the simple answer is asking cky about his claim was vio's only contribution to that point and it was pretty blatant. I did address safari's opinion on the matter and quite frankly, he was far less blatant and has had in my opinion a lot of redeeming factors to sway my opinion about him more positively. As far as victor...well he's victor and if you want to metagame me you'd see that in more recent games especially I am a bit more hesitant about making cases against victor on general.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:54 pm

kwanton wrote:I might get a lot of flak for this, but at this point I'm going to advocate a random lynch...A random lynch will at least give us info and avoid a no lynch.


Safariguy wrote:I'd actually suggest lynching an inactive. I mean, I do pressure them anyways, but with such a large game, the more dead weight we have going into Days 2 and 3, the harder it will be to get enough votes for a lynch. So I say we pick an inactive and just lynch them.


Kwan wrote:I'd actually suggest lynching an inactive. I mean, I do pressure them anyways, but with such a large game, the more dead weight we have going into Days 2 and 3, the harder it will be to get enough votes for a lynch. So I say we pick an inactive and just lynch them.


Saf wrote:The original quote was lynching an inactive. We have no idea if they are townie, they could just as easily be an inactive scum (See Matrix Mafia).


Saf wrote:Yeah, we lynched the inactive and he was the Mafia Godfather. For a more recent Example, Clue Mafia. We lynched Nark because he was inactive and he was a SKer. So no, inactive doesn't automatically mean town.


Saf wrote:Agreed, but as sens has just reiterated, he's equating an inactive lynch as townie. I'm pointing out that not all inactives are townie, so you cannot make blanket declarations saying that inactive lynches are townie lynches. Are inactives most likely townie? Course they are. But you can't say they all are.


Saf wrote:@ drake, how do you suggest we get them to stop submarining? This being Day 1 and with a lack of better cases, I'm willing to go for an inactive lynch in lieu of a better case. If you can't find a replacement and prods don't work, it's essentially just someone taking up space and possibly preventing us from reaching a majority.


edoku wrote:I too am comfortable with an inactive lynch In a game this large we can afford to throw a few townies under the bus in an effort to find lazy scum and weed out the unhelpful.


naxus wrote:I agree that a inactive in this game would be a good sacrifice.


votes for cky: drake, edoku, Victor, jonty, dazza, Squirrel, sens, tonka, sniper, sheep, naxus, chap in rapid succession. This was never about pressure, it was straightforward sacrifice. You're dressing it up like something else here. In your own words (see 2nd quote), this was to achieve a lynch, nothing more.

This is you trying to justify your actions. If we're gonna lynch him, just lynch him. I've no problem with lynching him either, but I do so honestly. I'm watching you, Saf. The people are watching you.

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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby / on Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:29 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Okay but what's the point of the claim? The whole reason we wanted to lynch the inactive was to advance the game, move it to night phase. You're defeating the purpose of a sacrifice.

This stinks of the capitalist who suppresses and suffocates our freedom. There can be no votes until there are votes for all.

-Tails

I can kind of see where you are coming from except for this, but there isn't a need to randomly throw players to their death if it's just, to go to night phase, there are plenty of other reasons to throw someone; to hear a long comedic scream, to test how far down a hole is, it being SPARTA...Me Gusta

We have deadlines, and even the dreaded "no lynch", the point was to get rid of a scummariner and hope for the best, and the more info we get out of it the better in the long run IMO.

anyways, nag me gusta :shock: Unvote
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby nagerous on Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:31 pm

this is me confirming sir!
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby slowreactor on Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:36 pm

Oh I'm not bold on the front page? Well in that case, confirm.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby safariguy5 on Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:46 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
kwanton wrote:I might get a lot of flak for this, but at this point I'm going to advocate a random lynch...A random lynch will at least give us info and avoid a no lynch.


Safariguy wrote:I'd actually suggest lynching an inactive. I mean, I do pressure them anyways, but with such a large game, the more dead weight we have going into Days 2 and 3, the harder it will be to get enough votes for a lynch. So I say we pick an inactive and just lynch them.


Kwan wrote:I'd actually suggest lynching an inactive. I mean, I do pressure them anyways, but with such a large game, the more dead weight we have going into Days 2 and 3, the harder it will be to get enough votes for a lynch. So I say we pick an inactive and just lynch them.


Saf wrote:The original quote was lynching an inactive. We have no idea if they are townie, they could just as easily be an inactive scum (See Matrix Mafia).


Saf wrote:Yeah, we lynched the inactive and he was the Mafia Godfather. For a more recent Example, Clue Mafia. We lynched Nark because he was inactive and he was a SKer. So no, inactive doesn't automatically mean town.


Saf wrote:Agreed, but as sens has just reiterated, he's equating an inactive lynch as townie. I'm pointing out that not all inactives are townie, so you cannot make blanket declarations saying that inactive lynches are townie lynches. Are inactives most likely townie? Course they are. But you can't say they all are.


Saf wrote:@ drake, how do you suggest we get them to stop submarining? This being Day 1 and with a lack of better cases, I'm willing to go for an inactive lynch in lieu of a better case. If you can't find a replacement and prods don't work, it's essentially just someone taking up space and possibly preventing us from reaching a majority.


edoku wrote:I too am comfortable with an inactive lynch In a game this large we can afford to throw a few townies under the bus in an effort to find lazy scum and weed out the unhelpful.


naxus wrote:I agree that a inactive in this game would be a good sacrifice.


votes for cky: drake, edoku, Victor, jonty, dazza, Squirrel, sens, tonka, sniper, sheep, naxus, chap in rapid succession. This was never about pressure, it was straightforward sacrifice. You're dressing it up like something else here. In your own words (see 2nd quote), this was to achieve a lynch, nothing more.

This is you trying to justify your actions. If we're gonna lynch him, just lynch him. I've no problem with lynching him either, but I do so honestly. I'm watching you, Saf. The people are watching you.

-Tails

When someone posts in the game, they go from inactive to active in my book (See ndrs in Unknown). So if the 12 votes were on lawlrus, then I would have lynched him because he remained inactive. Since ckyrias posted, I treat him as no longer being inactive and then look at his response to pressure to gauge whether to press the lynch.

So in his 1 post, he basically says he has nothing to add (active submarining) and then votes drake (vote hopping, trying to deflect pressure, voting without reason). And he's not posted since to explain his actions or participate in the discussion (active submarining again).

Quite frankly, I'm going to vote ckyrias because his reaction and continued silence since his wagon has set off a lot of scum signals for me.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby chapcrap on Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:46 pm

unvote because of the replacement.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby drake_259 on Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:42 am

Right i'm off till Friday, will catch up then and give my verdict.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby VioIet on Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:47 am

drake_259 wrote:
VioIet wrote:Oh. It's the second time I've forgotten that too. I don't like colors :|

Vote Lawlrus

wrong shade of red!



and jen how did everything go?



Oh goodness. So picky. Well I won't bother changing my vote color because I'm going to unvote anyway- due to Nag replacing.

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OH, so you are eager for a PR. I see. Well you can gladly take my PR are serve yourself a glass of fresh-squeezed piss. Enjoy your drink.



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Vote Victor for information fishing. By this I mean he tried to get a roleclaim from a newb who was on the chopping block. That's fairly scummy in my book.

I also have it on good authority that VS is a CIA operative, a double agent intent on razing the people's movement by infiltrating the institutions by which we forge our own equality. Either that or he's Dr. Zhivago, a treacherous swine whose selfish actions proliferate the bourgeois' stranglehold, and ideological fool whose beliefs are untenable.

-Tails




Okay, I am really surprised that no one has pointed this out yet. Is this a PR, or am I missing something?

Tails do you really have this information on Victor? Night 0 investigation? How did you know this?

And if this is indeed a PR, then just ignore me.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby Rodion on Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:54 am

Communist (or anti-capitalist) PR it seems, although I'm not sure which meme it represents.

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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:54 am

Rodion wrote:Communist (or anti-capitalist) PR it seems, although I'm not sure which meme it represents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGWoDKKp-QU - me gusta


:shock:

Winner of creepiest PR.

And yes, Vio, I will demand the freedom and equality for the people at every turn. I will not rest.

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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby dazza2008 on Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:04 am

I feel left out as I got no PR :cry:
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby jonty125 on Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:02 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:votes for cky: drake, edoku, Victor, jonty, dazza, Squirrel, sens, tonka, sniper, sheep, naxus, chap in rapid succession. This was never about pressure, it was straightforward sacrifice. You're dressing it up like something else here.
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I know this is addressed for saf but I voted cky so he would show some activity as he had not posted for OVER 9000! days. I didn't want this to go to a lynch and would have unvoted if we reached L-2. I don't have problem with lynching him but I would like my motives made clear and understood.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby dazza2008 on Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:19 am

Ckyrias spoke when he got some votes and has not spoke since that is why I voted for him again. He is not inactive he is lurking. So far he is the scummiest in here in my opinion. Others have not posted much but its the fact I know he has been online but not posting that I find him suspicious now.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby strike wolf on Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:35 am

Dazza you may not have a specific Pr such as you must say the word supercalifragilistic at least once every three posts but your PM should have a description of your character personality that you can stick to. For instance part of my character is that I have to ocasionally mention watching porn.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby dazza2008 on Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:37 am

strike wolf wrote:Dazza you may not have a specific Pr such as you must say the word supercalifragilistic at least once every three posts but your PM should have a description of your character personality that you can stick to. For instance part of my character is that I have to ocasionally mention watching porn.

My PM did not have anything like that :(
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby dazza2008 on Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:39 am

There is a description but not how to act or anything like that.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby strike wolf on Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:47 am

Well there should be something in that description. Perhaps your character is angry at the world/a certain group. Perhaps ypur meme has gone through a certain experience. Something that should give you a clue about how to act.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby sensfan on Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:06 am

My reasoning for at first voting ckyrias was to get him to post. I wasnt thinking about lynching, but I worked, he posted.... and now hes gone again.

fos Safari for Tails explanation on the 29th page and his will to lynch a inactive who could be a townie

vote ckyrias for disappearing again! This isnt fun when you go away, unlike me!
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby jonty125 on Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:11 am

sensfan wrote:My reasoning for at first voting ckyrias was to get him to post. I wasnt thinking about lynching, but I worked, he posted.... and now hes gone again.

fos Safari for Tails explanation on the 29th page and his will to lynch a inactive who could be a townie

vote ckyrias for disappearing again! This isnt fun when you go away, unlike me!


I think he found his PR :lol: (although it took him OVER 9000! posts.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby dazza2008 on Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:39 am

strike wolf wrote:Well there should be something in that description. Perhaps your character is angry at the world/a certain group. Perhaps ypur meme has gone through a certain experience. Something that should give you a clue about how to act.

Ok I think I know what to do but don't know how to :?
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby jonty125 on Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:01 am

jonty125 wrote:
sensfan wrote:My reasoning for at first voting ckyrias was to get him to post. I wasnt thinking about lynching, but I worked, he posted.... and now hes gone again.

fos Safari for Tails explanation on the 29th page and his will to lynch a inactive who could be a townie

vote ckyrias for disappearing again! This isnt fun when you go away, unlike me!


I think he found his PR :lol: (although it took him OVER 9000! posts.


Sorry about this post (got mixed up with sens and dazza) don't have the SAME AVATAR

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strike wolf wrote:Well there should be something in that description. Perhaps your character is angry at the world/a certain group. Perhaps ypur meme has gone through a certain experience. Something that should give you a clue about how to act.

Ok I think I know what to do but don't know how to :?


What do you mean? like you have to walk into a brick wall in every post ](*,) and can't find the brick wall face or don't understand your PR.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby dazza2008 on Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:10 am

I don't have a PR but there is something in the description I could do if I knew how to. I wish it was that its easy ](*,) :lol:
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby strike wolf on Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:12 am

I think I've about reached the limit for how much I can help you without forcing a soft claim. I'd ask commander and/or pancake for clarification on how the character should role play.
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