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Re: Euro2008

Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:45 pm

I say Croatia, Russia and Italy go through.

I have a strange feeling about Holland. I know they have played the best football so far but I am just picturing Hiddink beating his own country for some strange reason.
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Snorri1234 on Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:02 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:I have a strange feeling about Holland. I know they have played the best football so far but I am just picturing Hiddink beating his own country for some strange reason.


Well Hiddink is a very good coach, but so is van Basten.

I think Holland should try to make less mistakes than in their previous games (playing against france showed how the team made some huge mistakes) and they'll do just fine. Van de Sar being the best keeper in the history of fucking history ever will make sure the odd chances the russians get won't be turned into goals, but he's no magician (at least I think so) so he needs a better defense.

Though one should never disregard the utter incompetence of the opposition. Just look at that time Henry went past the defense and had a clear shot but fucking shot the ball over. I mean, a player like him with a chance like that should have resulted into a goal but it didn't!?!? Wtf was that all about?
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Re: Euro2008

Postby kletka on Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:38 am

Snorri1234 wrote:Van de Sar being the best keeper in the history of fucking history ever will make sure the odd chances the russians get won't be turned into goals, but he's no magician (at least I think so) so he needs a better defense.


All the British media were crowning Peter Cech with this title. So I hope VanDeSar will do equally well as Cech against turks...

Seriously speaking, Holland has no player like Torres who could on his own outrun Russian defence. It will all boil down to which wingers will do a better job. With Robben and Van Persie being a fair match against Zyryanov and Bilyaletdinov, it will be very close...

Read my prediction for semis slightly above. So far I am getting everything right, which makes no hope for orangmen :(
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Iliad on Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:04 am

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Snorri1234 wrote:Van de Sar being the best keeper in the history of fucking history ever will make sure the odd chances the russians get won't be turned into goals, but he's no magician (at least I think so) so he needs a better defense.


All the British media were crowning Peter Cech with this title. So I hope VanDeSar will do equally well as Cech against turks...

Seriously speaking, Holland has no player like Torres who could on his own outrun Russian defence. It will all boil down to which wingers will do a better job. With Robben and Van Persie being a fair match against Zyryanov and Bilyaletdinov, it will be very close...

Read my prediction for semis slightly above. So far I am getting everything right, which makes no hope for orangmen :(

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Re: Euro2008

Postby DAZMCFC on Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:45 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:I say Croatia, Russia and Italy go through.

I have a strange feeling about Holland. I know they have played the best football so far but I am just picturing Hiddink beating his own country for some strange reason.



Ruben, how are you gong to cope without Pirlo(even though he has not played particularly well) and Gattuso against Spain.
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:53 am

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Ruben Cassar wrote:I have a strange feeling about Holland. I know they have played the best football so far but I am just picturing Hiddink beating his own country for some strange reason.


Well Hiddink is a very good coach, but so is van Basten.

I think Holland should try to make less mistakes than in their previous games (playing against france showed how the team made some huge mistakes) and they'll do just fine. Van de Sar being the best keeper in the history of fucking history ever will make sure the odd chances the russians get won't be turned into goals, but he's no magician (at least I think so) so he needs a better defense.

Though one should never disregard the utter incompetence of the opposition. Just look at that time Henry went past the defense and had a clear shot but fucking shot the ball over. I mean, a player like him with a chance like that should have resulted into a goal but it didn't!?!? Wtf was that all about?


Van der Sar this season makes it in top 5. Career wise he's not even top 10 material.

Everyone knows the best goalkeeper in the world is Buffon. No doubt about that.

Holland have better players than Russia but I think it's a very open match. It will sure be fun to watch. I'm expecting a lot of action.
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:56 am

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Ruben Cassar wrote:I say Croatia, Russia and Italy go through.

I have a strange feeling about Holland. I know they have played the best football so far but I am just picturing Hiddink beating his own country for some strange reason.



Ruben, how are you gong to cope without Pirlo(even though he has not played particularly well) and Gattuso against Spain.


The loss of Pirlo is a big blow.

I think we will play with De Rossi in the middle and perhaps Ambrosini and Aquilani next to him. Or Camoranesi could play less up front and be shifted more in a midfield position with a classic 4-4-2 formation. So far Italy has been playing 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-2-1.
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Re: Euro2008

Postby hulmey on Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:49 pm

The Spanish are going to dominate 100% the very poor Italian team. The Italian striking force is a joke and the midfeild very lacking!!

Lets face it teh Italians were lucky to win the World Cup, with an easy passage and alot of refferre descions helping them to the final......
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Pedronicus on Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:40 pm

this game tonight is a load of shit. It's been like watching paint dry.

A couple of geezers at work stuck an ayrton on Croatia before the tournament kicked off. One got 12/1 the other got it on at 14/1

f*ck me - where have Croatia gone? - this isn't the same team that kicked England out of the qualifiers...
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Re: Euro2008

Postby DAZMCFC on Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:42 pm

Croatia 0 Turkey 0 extra time to be played. Mandy and Iggy, nail biting time. :D
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Re: Euro2008

Postby 0ojakeo0 on Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:18 pm

Holy Shit.
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Nickbaldwin on Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:30 pm

Turkey's win was just cheeky.
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:36 pm

hulmey wrote:The Spanish are going to dominate 100% the very poor Italian team. The Italian striking force is a joke and the midfeild very lacking!!

Lets face it teh Italians were lucky to win the World Cup, with an easy passage and alot of refferre descions helping them to the final......


Typical biased opinion of a person who hates Italy. We have grown accustomed to your comments in this forum now hulmey. Haha. One doesn't win a World Cup with luck but with skill and teamplay. You're totally biased man.

I can only imagine how much you would be angry if we also won the Euro hulmey! I bet you wouldn't sleep at night. :)

And anyway we are always better than your England any day. ;)
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:38 pm

Nickbaldwin wrote:Turkey's win was just cheeky.


I still can't believe Turkey are through to the final. Now this is real luck.

And lucky as well are the Germans, another team that is always lucky in these kind of competitions. Not only do they face a lesser team like Turkey in the semi, but half the Turkish squad is out due to injuries or suspensions.

Germany have already booked a place in the final.
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Re: Euro2008

Postby 0ojakeo0 on Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:25 pm

netherlands win it all by beating germany in the final
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:40 pm

0ojakeo0 wrote:netherlands win it all by beating germany in the final


Not so fast. They have to beat Russia first and then the winner of Italy/Spain before even reaching the final.

Both games will be very tough.
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Snorri1234 on Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:53 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:netherlands win it all by beating germany in the final


Not so fast. They have to beat Russia first and then the winner of Italy/Spain before even reaching the final.

Both games will be very tough.



Italy isn't playing as good as they used to, though they still pose a threat yes.

Russia is a dangerous team with a strong attack and mediocre defense. The game tomorrow is basically between two teams with the same strenghts.

Holland has been the suprise of the tournament though. At least I expected Russia to play better due to Hiddink, who can make any team a good team. (not a winner, but just a good team.)
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Iliad on Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:02 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
hulmey wrote:The Spanish are going to dominate 100% the very poor Italian team. The Italian striking force is a joke and the midfeild very lacking!!

Lets face it teh Italians were lucky to win the World Cup, with an easy passage and alot of refferre descions helping them to the final......


Typical biased opinion of a person who hates Italy. We have grown accustomed to your comments in this forum now hulmey. Haha. One doesn't win a World Cup with luck but with skill and teamplay. You're totally biased man.

I can only imagine how much you would be angry if we also won the Euro hulmey! I bet you wouldn't sleep at night. :)

And anyway we are always better than your England any day. ;)

and what do you say of the Australia-Italy game. That was beyond luck
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Iliad on Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:04 pm

Turkey has won another game last-gasp. Well done to germany for getting prob the easiest team in the semis now
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:24 pm

Iliad wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:and what do you say of the Australia-Italy game. That was beyond luck


Wow do you think that was beyond luck? I realise that it was the first time for Australia to pass the group stage in a major competition so it must have been a big disappointment to see their team lose but honestly we hit the post twice in that game and I think we deserved the victory even though the penalty was a bit dubious. I have seen much less deserved victories than that one. Also it's strange how people only remember this stuff. No one mentions the 2002 world cup when Italy (as well as Spain) were thrown out of the cup by the referees who shamelessly helped Korea reach the semi final because they were the host nation or the 2004 Euro match fixing between Denmark and Sweden. Anyway back on topic: Euro 2008.

You want to know what is beyond luck? For example tonight's Turkish victory. That is what I call beyond luck. A team that has won the last three matches with goals at the 92nd minute without deserving to win any of them.
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Iliad on Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:25 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
Iliad wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:and what do you say of the Australia-Italy game. That was beyond luck


Wow do you think that was beyond luck? I realise that it was the first time for Australia to pass the group stage in a major competition so it must have been a big disappointment to see their team lose but honestly we hit the post twice in that game and I think we deserved the victory even though the penalty was a bit dubious. I have seen much less deserved victories than that one. Also it's strange how people only remember this stuff. No one mentions the 2002 world cup when Italy (as well as Spain) were thrown out of the cup by the referees who shamelessly helped Korea reach the semi final because they were the host nation or the 2004 Euro match fixing between Denmark and Sweden. Anyway back on topic: Euro 2008.

You want to know what is beyond luck? For example tonight's Turkish victory. That is what I call beyond luck. A team that has won the last three matches with goals at the 92nd minute without deserving to win any of them.

The turkey part I agree with
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:26 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
Italy isn't playing as good as they used to, though they still pose a threat yes.

Russia is a dangerous team with a strong attack and mediocre defense. The game tomorrow is basically between two teams with the same strenghts.

Holland has been the suprise of the tournament though. At least I expected Russia to play better due to Hiddink, who can make any team a good team. (not a winner, but just a good team.)


I'm hoping Italy start playing better from now onwards as they usually peak in the 2nd stage of these type of competitions, although Spain are a great team and anything can happen in that match.

Holland have shown the best football so far, but so had Portugal. Anything can happen at this stage of the competition. Hiddink is indeed a great coach. Where will he be going to after the Euro?
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Re: Euro2008

Postby Iliad on Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:35 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
Italy isn't playing as good as they used to, though they still pose a threat yes.

Russia is a dangerous team with a strong attack and mediocre defense. The game tomorrow is basically between two teams with the same strenghts.

Holland has been the suprise of the tournament though. At least I expected Russia to play better due to Hiddink, who can make any team a good team. (not a winner, but just a good team.)


I'm hoping Italy start playing better from now onwards as they usually peak in the 2nd stage of these type of competitions, although Spain are a great team and anything can happen in that match.

Holland have shown the best football so far, but so had Portugal. Anything can happen at this stage of the competition. Hiddink is indeed a great coach. Where will he be going to after the Euro?

I believe staying until after 2010 World Cup
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Re: Euro2008

Postby DAZMCFC on Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:25 am

where is Iggy and Mandy now. :D


stuffy baskets them Turks. 122 min they scored in.
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Re: Euro2008

Postby ignotus on Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:50 pm

What can I say? We were better but Turkey won the match. :( :( :(
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