Conquer Club

SoN!c wrote:Loose and Max Mason.

SoN!c: was thinking PMC + Max
PEPE: was thinking PMC + Max
PMC: thinks SoN!c + ?
DDS: thinks SoN!c + ?

I find it strange both you and DDS have not a second scum on your mind (even strongly because real town has to search 2).

Ofcourse being scum one does not need to think on who the second scum is. You only need to make sure the other scum, the one you realy think is the other scum, does not get lynched.

Therefore it has to be DDS and PMC. Or Pepe is super elaborate faking insulted.

FP by Pepe

pmchugh wrote:Also, don't get why you are saying who you think the mason is out loud.

SoN!c wrote:Sipping wine in Crete, relaxing. And PMC is relaxed too. I have to admit that. Too relaxed to be scum in the end. And was Pepe realy so hard insulted by that post of LC or is he faking it?

Close to be unmasked and last attemp to save his hide?

Rereading it it feels fabricated. This is mafia - things like these are said.

And one part of me knows i have to follow the Mason lead.

So vote Pepe.

Loose Canon wrote:After Charles clarification that it is bad sport at least for active players to engage with dead players and vice versa to affect the outcome of the game, I think that would clear an obstacle I would have in voting Sonic / opportunity perhaps to persuade others to switch to Pepe.

My preferred choice is still Pepe.

I need to read the last couple of pages again when I get home from work just in case there's anything, and probably give it at least (its my football night Thursdays and I'm going to a wedding Friday and Saturday) another 24 hours in case there's any movements off Sonic towards Pepe.

(Also it would be bad form to perhaps turn up to the wedding in a coffin.)

PepeAtila wrote:

Loose Canon wrote:After Charles clarification that it is bad sport at least for active players to engage with dead players and vice versa to affect the outcome of the game, I think that would clear an obstacle I would have in voting Sonic / opportunity perhaps to persuade others to switch to Pepe.

My preferred choice is still Pepe.

I need to read the last couple of pages again when I get home from work just in case there's anything, and probably give it at least (its my football night Thursdays and I'm going to a wedding Friday and Saturday) another 24 hours in case there's any movements off Sonic towards Pepe.

(Also it would be bad form to perhaps turn up to the wedding in a coffin.)

@Sonic read here and do your job, but realize LC is going for one of us today and another tomorrow ...

unvote vote Max

SoN!c wrote:
Why would he go for the other one when the first one flips town??

PepeAtila wrote:

Loose Canon wrote:After Charles clarification that it is bad sport at least for active players to engage with dead players and vice versa to affect the outcome of the game, I think that would clear an obstacle I would have in voting Sonic / opportunity perhaps to persuade others to switch to Pepe.

My preferred choice is still Pepe.

I need to read the last couple of pages again when I get home from work just in case there's anything, and probably give it at least (its my football night Thursdays and I'm going to a wedding Friday and Saturday) another 24 hours in case there's any movements off Sonic towards Pepe.

(Also it would be bad form to perhaps turn up to the wedding in a coffin.)

@Sonic read here and do your job, but realize LC is going for one of us today and another tomorrow ...

unvote vote Max

Loose Canon wrote:

PepeAtila wrote:

Loose Canon wrote:After Charles clarification that it is bad sport at least for active players to engage with dead players and vice versa to affect the outcome of the game, I think that would clear an obstacle I would have in voting Sonic / opportunity perhaps to persuade others to switch to Pepe.

My preferred choice is still Pepe.

I need to read the last couple of pages again when I get home from work just in case there's anything, and probably give it at least (its my football night Thursdays and I'm going to a wedding Friday and Saturday) another 24 hours in case there's any movements off Sonic towards Pepe.

(Also it would be bad form to perhaps turn up to the wedding in a coffin.)

@Sonic read here and do your job, but realize LC is going for one of us today and another tomorrow ...

unvote vote Max

Loose Canon wrote:I think Pepe did genuinely think it was impolite of me.

The thing is we are all playing with people who we don't know outside this site and there are genuine differences in views of what goes and what doesn't for each and every player.
If we were all playing face to face we would all still wind each other up, but we'd also all have a sense of what is going too far for one person and what is going too far for another.

I don't think I have ever used the term scum to describe anyone in real life, but on this site it is such a short word, it sort of seems acceptable and its almost like its my favourite word.

Having said that I genuinely read Pepe's posts
First the probabilities putting Max being most probable to be "scum" - I thought and called out WRONG.
Then (after my post) I read the vote/post on PMC - I thought and called out WRONG AGAIN
Then (after that vote) I read the no possibility of Pepe's vote lynching Sonic - which is FACTUALLY WRONG - so I called that out.

Pepe wasn't just (in my opinion) wrong in 3 different places in the game, say beginning, end of day 1, midway day 3, those posts were wrong (in my opinion) one after the other after the other, and I didn't consciously know the next one was going to be wrong until I'd posted about the previous one.

I'm glad Pepe is back in the game , in real life I'd by him a drink or five, talk about football (hey you beat us well in the Euros Pepe) or whatever, make sure we were both a bit drunk , and then change the subject back suddenly and say "but you are a werewolf aren't you?"

In England we used to call it singeing the Spaniards beard, now I guess its setting light to the Werewolves bristles.

pmchugh wrote:

DirtyDishSoap wrote:

Loose Canon wrote:Lets state the facts we can agree on:

6 Players Remaining made up of
1 Werewolf
1 Mafia
2 Town Masons
2 Town Vanilla

2 Masons each have a 50% chance if sticking a pin of voting for scum.
2 Vanilla town each have a 50% chance if sticking a pin of voting scum (masons would declare if in danger of being lynched)
2 Scum each have a 1 in 3 chance if sticking a pin of voting rival scum (masons declare if in danger)


EW + X killed Devante and Traf
Traf + Y killed Strike + EW

IF we keep these facts in mind at all times we may be able to Deduce who X and Y are most likely to be, D3.

Does anyone want to disagree with the above framework?

I have to re read the set up but i don't believe this to be right from Charles sign up page. Not unless he deviated.

I think it might be this
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... nd_Enemies

With 11 players, 2 scum with an SK/Werewolf is likely.
Might just be one left.

DDS here seems to not know how the Werewolf faction works. Let's first take this at face value: DDS could not be a Werewolf!

Could he be mafia? Well Traf was mafia and he demonstrated rule understanding and it would be odd if DDS still mistakenly believed it.
Therefore DDS is not likely mafia.

However, we then return to the original question. What if DDS is a wolf and he chose to post this deliberately to make us think he wasn't one?

I lean towards the upsides being too marginal and he is probably just town not paying attention.

Loose Canon wrote:I think Pepe you feel you'd be letting down Charle yes but also your teammate if you quit the game.

PepeAtila wrote:

Loose Canon wrote:I think Pepe you feel you'd be letting down Charle yes but also your teammate if you quit the game.

Please don't make me write what I think about you ...
If you mean by teammate Sonic, DDS, Max and PMC,... yes also because of them...

PepeAtila wrote:

SoN!c wrote:
Why would he go for the other one when the first one flips town??

Don't make me say what I think about him ...

Perhaps his lawyer said him for something "Res ipsa loquitor" (latin)

Loose Canon wrote:

pmchugh wrote:

DirtyDishSoap wrote:

Loose Canon wrote:Lets state the facts we can agree on:

6 Players Remaining made up of
1 Werewolf
1 Mafia
2 Town Masons
2 Town Vanilla

2 Masons each have a 50% chance if sticking a pin of voting for scum.
2 Vanilla town each have a 50% chance if sticking a pin of voting scum (masons would declare if in danger of being lynched)
2 Scum each have a 1 in 3 chance if sticking a pin of voting rival scum (masons declare if in danger)


EW + X killed Devante and Traf
Traf + Y killed Strike + EW

IF we keep these facts in mind at all times we may be able to Deduce who X and Y are most likely to be, D3.

Does anyone want to disagree with the above framework?

I have to re read the set up but i don't believe this to be right from Charles sign up page. Not unless he deviated.

I think it might be this
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... nd_Enemies

With 11 players, 2 scum with an SK/Werewolf is likely.
Might just be one left.

DDS here seems to not know how the Werewolf faction works. Let's first take this at face value: DDS could not be a Werewolf!

Could he be mafia? Well Traf was mafia and he demonstrated rule understanding and it would be odd if DDS still mistakenly believed it.
Therefore DDS is not likely mafia.

However, we then return to the original question. What if DDS is a wolf and he chose to post this deliberately to make us think he wasn't one?

I lean towards the upsides being too marginal and he is probably just town not paying attention.

YES DDS does have questions to answer on this.