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According to Finland’s Prime Minister Jyrki Katainen, Finnish NATO membership would not threaten Russian security. Katainen entered the debate during his visit to Washington DC.

”Finland is a free country,” said the PM. ”Both Finns and foreign guests can speak quite freely in our country, but Finland will make decisions on own own defence and security based on our own basis.”

http://yle.fi/uutiset/katainen_enters_l ... te/6168512

Article 1
In the eventuality of Finland, or the Soviet Union through Finnish territory, becoming the object of an armed attack by Germany or any state allied with the latter, Finland will aggressively fight to repel the attack. Finland agrees to use all its available land, sea, and air forces, and to do so within the frontiers of Finland in accordance with obligations defined in the present agreement and, if necessary, with the assistance of or jointly with, the Soviet Union.

In the cases of aforementioned the Soviet Union will give Finland the help required, the giving of which will be subject to mutual agreement between the Contracting Parties.

Article 4
The High Contracting Parties confirm their pledge, given under Article 3 of the Peace Treaty signed in Paris on February 10, 1947, not to conclude any alliance or join any coalition directed against the other High Contracting Party.

saxitoxin wrote:On the eve of these sexercises, in a stunning military provocation the likes of which the world has rarely seen, the Finn's foreign minister has declared he will simply dump his treaty obligations whenever he chooses and direct his war machine against the Russian people again:

According to Finland’s Prime Minister Jyrki Katainen, Finnish NATO membership would not threaten Russian security. Katainen entered the debate during his visit to Washington DC.

”Finland is a free country,” said the PM. ”Both Finns and foreign guests can speak quite freely in our country, but Finland will make decisions on own own defence and security based on our own basis.”

http://yle.fi/uutiset/katainen_enters_l ... te/6168512

But he is bound to this 1950 treaty with the USSR/Russian Federation -

Article 1
In the eventuality of Finland, or the Soviet Union through Finnish territory, becoming the object of an armed attack by Germany or any state allied with the latter, Finland will aggressively fight to repel the attack. Finland agrees to use all its available land, sea, and air forces, and to do so within the frontiers of Finland in accordance with obligations defined in the present agreement and, if necessary, with the assistance of or jointly with, the Soviet Union.

In the cases of aforementioned the Soviet Union will give Finland the help required, the giving of which will be subject to mutual agreement between the Contracting Parties.

Article 4
The High Contracting Parties confirm their pledge, given under Article 3 of the Peace Treaty signed in Paris on February 10, 1947, not to conclude any alliance or join any coalition directed against the other High Contracting Party.

1. If Finland joins NATO how can exactly can it "aggressively" repel an attack by Germany "or any state allied with" it against Russia?
2. Clearly NATO is "directed against" Russia, how can Finland join NATO legally?

maxfaraday wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:On the eve of these sexercises, in a stunning military provocation the likes of which the world has rarely seen, the Finn's foreign minister has declared he will simply dump his treaty obligations whenever he chooses and direct his war machine against the Russian people again:

According to Finland’s Prime Minister Jyrki Katainen, Finnish NATO membership would not threaten Russian security. Katainen entered the debate during his visit to Washington DC.

”Finland is a free country,” said the PM. ”Both Finns and foreign guests can speak quite freely in our country, but Finland will make decisions on own own defence and security based on our own basis.”

http://yle.fi/uutiset/katainen_enters_l ... te/6168512

But he is bound to this 1950 treaty with the USSR/Russian Federation -

Article 1
In the eventuality of Finland, or the Soviet Union through Finnish territory, becoming the object of an armed attack by Germany or any state allied with the latter, Finland will aggressively fight to repel the attack. Finland agrees to use all its available land, sea, and air forces, and to do so within the frontiers of Finland in accordance with obligations defined in the present agreement and, if necessary, with the assistance of or jointly with, the Soviet Union.

In the cases of aforementioned the Soviet Union will give Finland the help required, the giving of which will be subject to mutual agreement between the Contracting Parties.

Article 4
The High Contracting Parties confirm their pledge, given under Article 3 of the Peace Treaty signed in Paris on February 10, 1947, not to conclude any alliance or join any coalition directed against the other High Contracting Party.

1. If Finland joins NATO how can exactly can it "aggressively" repel an attack by Germany "or any state allied with" it against Russia?
2. Clearly NATO is "directed against" Russia, how can Finland join NATO legally?

Flashnews: the "Soviet Union" no longer exists

The United States consistently asserts that the successor states emerging from the dissolution of the former Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, and Czechoslovakia are obligated to fulfill the treaty obligations of their predecessor states. The United States bases this duty on the international law of state succession with respect to treaties and on political commitments made during the process of establishing diplomatic relations. - https://litigation-essentials.lexisnexi ... 18a98cbb4a