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Re: 1982 [09/2] Page 1 & 28

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:41 pm
by thehippo8
koontz1973 wrote:Would it cause a problem if I made it the same as the British side?


Funny, I was going to suggest that - there's nothing majic int he British background colour other than it makes for a good contrast with planes and the ensign!

Re: 1982 [09/2] Page 1 & 29

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:02 pm
by koontz1973
Image
    They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old
    Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn
    At the going down of the sun and in the morning
    We will remember them

Adapted from "For the Fallen" by Laurence Binyon
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17542097
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17580449
[spoiler=British KIA]Private Richard J. Absolon
POAEM(L) Michael J Adcock
AEM(R)1 Adrian U Anslow
MEM(M)1 Frank O Armes
Able Seaman Derek D Armstrong
A/Cpl Raymound E Armstrong
A/Sgt J.L. Arthy
A/WO1 Malcolm Atkinson
Staff Sgt John I Baker
Lt Commander David I Balfour
Lt Commander Richard W Banfield
Able Seaman Andrew R Barr
Lieutenant James A Barry
Lt Commander Gordon W J Batt
A/Cpl William Begley
L/Corporal Gary D Bingley
AB(R) Ian M Boldy
POMEM(M) David R Briggs
POAEM(M) Peter Brouard
Corporal J.G. Browning
Private Gerald Bull
L/Cpl Barry C Bullers
A/Sgt Paul A Bunker
L/Corporal Anthony Burke
A/Cpl Robert Burns
Private Jason S Burt
ACWEA John D L Caddy
Marine Paul D Callan
MEM(M)1 Paul B Callus
L/Sergeant James R Carlyle
POACMN Kevin S Casey
Elect Fitter Dis Leung Chau, Merchant Navy
Bosun Yu Sik Chee, Merchant Navy
L/Cpl Simon J Cockton
Private Albert M Connett
Catering Assistant Darryl Cope
L/Corporal Anthony Cork
Private Jonathan D Crow
Sergeant Philip P. Currass
Lieutenant William A Curtis
Guardsman Ian A Dale
A/Sgt Sid A I Davidson
Marine Colin Davison
APOCA Stephen R Dawson
Guardsman D J Denholm
Captain Christopher Dent
Private Stephen J Dixon
AWEM(R) John K Dobson
Bosun John Dobson, Merchant Navy
Private Mark S Dodsworth
Cook Richard J S Dunkerley
Guardsman Michael J Dunphy
Cook Brian Easton
Guardsman Peter Edwards
WEA1 Anthony C Eggington
Sergeant Clifford Elley
Sub Lieutenant Richard C Emly
Sergeant Roger Enefer
Sergeant Andrew P Evans
Corporal Kenneth Evans
Lt Commander John E Eyton-Jones
Petty Officer Robert Fagan
Butcher Dis Sung Yuk Fai, Merchant Navy
L/Corporal Ian R Farrell
C/Sergeant Gordon P M Findlay
Corporal Peter R Fitton
CPOWTR Edmund Flanagan
Private Mark W Fletcher
A/Ldg Cook Michael P Foote
MEM(M)2 Stephen H Ford
Major Michael L Forge
Mechanic Frank Foulkes, Merchant Navy
PO(S) Michael G Fowler
Lieutenant Kenneth D Francis
WO2 Laurence Gallagher
Sapper Pradeep K Ghandi
Guardsman Mark Gibby
L/Cpl Brett P Giffin
Cook Neil A Goodall
Guardsman Glenn C Grace
Guardsman Paul Green
Private Anthony D Greenwood
S/Sergeant Christopher A Griffen
Marine Robert D Griffin
Guardsman Gareth M Griffiths
Private Neil Grose
3rd Eng Officer Christopher Hailwood, Merchant Navy
WEM(O)1 Ian P Hall
Captain Gavin J Hamilton
3rd Eng C Hailwood
A/Steward Shaun Hanson
Corporal David Hardman
A/Sgt William C Hatton
Std David Hawkins, Merchant Navy
Flt Lieutenant Garth W Hawkins
Able Seaman Sean K Hayward
Lieutenant Rodney R Heath
Private Peter J Hedicker
AEM(M) Mark Henderson
2nd Eng Paul Henry
AB(EW) Stephen Heyes
L/Corporal P D Higgs
AEM(R)1 Brian P Hinge
Private Mark Holman-Smith
1st Radio Officer Ronald R Hoole
Corporal Stephen Hope
Guardsman Denis N Hughes
Mechanic James Hughes, Merchant Navy
Guardsman Gareth Hughes
A/Sgt William Hughes
A/Sgt Ian N Hunt
Private Stephen Illingsworth
MEA(P) Alexander S James
Guardsman Brian Jasper
Private Timothy R Jenkins
C/Sgt Brian R Johnston
Sapper Christopher A Jones
Private Craig D Jones
Private Michael A Jones
Lieutenant Colonel Herbert (H) Jones
A/Sgt Philip Jones
Yeung Swi Kami, Merchant Navy
Guardsman Anthony Keeble
L/Sergeant Kevin Keoghane
Laundryman Lai Chi Keung, Merchant Navy
LMEM(M) Allan J Knowles
Laundryman Kye Ben Kwo, Merchant Navy
Private Stewart I Laing
WEM(R)1 Simon J Lawson
LACAEMN David Lee
Sergeant Robert A Leeming
MEM(M)2 Alistair R Leighton
L/Cpl Paul Lightfoot
L/Cpl Budhaparsad Limbu
Corporal Michael D Love
L/Corporal Christopher K Lovett
Marine Stephen G McAndrews
AEMN(I) Allan McAuley
Corporal Keith J McCarthy
AEA(M)2 Kelvin I McCallum
Corporal Douglas F MacCormack
A/Cpl Michael McHugh
C/Sgt Ian J McKay
L/Cpl Peter B Mckay
Corporal Stewart P F McLaughlin
Corporal Andrew G McIlvenny
Marine Gordon C MacPherson
Cook Brian J Malcolm
Guardsman David Malcolmson
Guardsman Michael J Marks
NA(AH)1 Brian Marsden
Ldg. Cook A Marshall
Private Thomas Mechan
Corporal Michael Melia
Private P W Middlewick
ALMEM(M) David Miller
L/SGT Clark Mitchell
Guardsman Christopher Mordecai
3rd Eng Off Andrew Morris
A/LS(R) Michael S Mullen
L/Corporal James H Murdoch
Lieutenant Brian Murphy
Lpt Gary T Nelson
L/Corporal Stephen J Newbury
A/Cpl John Newton
Guardsman Gareth D Nicholson
POWEM Anthony R Norman
Captain Ian North, Merchant Navy
Marine Michael J Nowak
Lieutenant Richard J Nunn
Major Roger Nutbeem
A/WO2 Sgt Patrick O'Connor
Cook David E Osborne
AWEM(N)1 David J A Ozbirn
APOWEM(R) Andrew K Palmer
Private David A Parr
Guardsman Colin C Parsons
L/Corporal John B Pashley
MEM(M)2 Terence W Perkins
Guardsman Eirwyn J Phillips
Marine Keith Phillips
Seaman Ng Por, Merchant Navy
Guardsman Gareth W Poole
Staff Sergeant James Prescott
Private Kenneth Preston
Corporal Stephen R Prior
LAEM(L) Donald L Pryce
Guardsman James B C Reynolds
Cook John R Roberts
Lt Commander Glen S Robinson-Moltke
Craftsman Mark W Rollins
Sergeant Ronald J Rotherham
Guardsman Nigel A Rowberry
Marine Anthony J Rundle
L/Cook Mark Sambles
L/Corporal David E Scott
Private Ian P Scrivens
Lt Commander John M Sephton
Craftsman Alexander Shaw
Seaman Chan Chai Sing, Merchant Navy
L/Cook Anthony E Sillence
Sergeant John Simeon
Private Francis Slough
Corporal Jeremy Smith
L/Corporal Nigel R Smith
Corporal Ian F Spencer
Steward Mark R Stephens
L/RO(W) Bernard J Still
Guardsman Archibald G Stirling
MEA2 Geoffrey L J Stockwell
L/Cpl Anthony R Streatfield
A/Weap Eng art David A Strickland
Steward John Stroud
S(M) Matthew J Stuart
WEA1 Kevin Sullivan
Cpl P S Sullivan
Cook Andrew C Swallow
L/Cpl Philip A Sweet
AAB(EW) Adrian D Sunderland
Corporal Paul Sullivan
Corporal Stephen J G Sykes
Sapper Wayne D Tarbard
Guardsman Ronald Tanbini
Lieutenant N. Taylor
Guardsman Christopher C Thomas
Guardsman Glyn K Thomas
L/Cpl Nicholas D M Thomas
Guardsman Raymound G Thomas
ACWEMN Michael Till
Lieutenant David H R Tinker
MEM(M)2 Stephen Tonkin
A/Cook Ian E Turnbull
Corporal Andrew B Uren
POACMN Collin P Vickers
Mechanic Ernest Vickers, Merchant Navy
Guardsman Andrew Walker
WEMN2 Barry J Wallis
Corporal Edward T Walpole
L/Cpl Christopher F Ward
Corporal L G Watts
Corporal Laurence Watts
Guardsman James F Weaver
Master-at-Arms Brian Welsh
Ldg Cook Adrian K Wellstead
Private Philip A West
AWEA2 Philip P White
ALMEM(M) Stephen J White
ALMEM(L) Garry Whitford
WO2 Daniel Wight
Sergeant Malcolm Wigley
Guardsman David R Williams
MEM(M)1 Gilbert S Williams
WEA/APP Ian R Williams
Cook Kevin J Williams
Marine David Wilson
Corporal Scott Wilson
Captain David A Wood
Lt Commander John S Woodhead[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Argentine KIA]De la Colina, Rodolfo Manuel
Meisner, Hugo César
Falconier, Juan José Ramón
Palaver, Angel del Valle
García, Jorge Osvaldo
Casado, Fernando Juan
Martel, Rubén Héctor
García Cuerva, Gustavo Argentino
Krauser, Carlos Eduardo
Lotufo, Marcelo Pedro
González, Mario Hipólito
Bustos, Manuel Oscar
Castagnari, Luis Darío José
Vázquez, José Daniel
Manzotti, Daniel Fernando
Guadagnini Luciano
Gavazzi, Fausto
Castillo, Omar Jesús
Ardiles, José Leónidas
Bolzan, Danilo Rubén
Bernhardt, Juan Domingo
Bean, Pedro Ignacio
Volponi, Héctor Ricardo
Jukic, Daniel Antonio
Nivoli, Mario Víctor
Giménez, Miguel Angel
Casco, Jorge Eduardo
Ibarlucea, Jorge Rubén
De Ibañez, Eduardo Jorge Raúl
Bono, Jorge Alberto
Arraras, Juan José
López, Néstor Edgardo
Castillo, Carlos Julio
Farías, Jorge Ricardo
Vázquez, Alfredo Jorge Alberto
Valko, Mario Luis
Lastra, Julio Jesús
Albelos, Manuel Alberto
Luna, Francisco Tomás
Marizza, Guido Antonino
Cardone, Miguel Angel
Cantezano, Carlos Domingo
Duarte, Mario
Rodríguez, Juan Antonio
Carrizo, Miguel Angel
Maldonado, José Alberto
Montaño, Agustín Hugo
Peralta, José Luis
Brasich, Andrés Luis
Varas, Héctor Hugo
García, Guillermo Ubaldo
Bordón, Héctor Ramón
Luna, Mario Ramón
Sevilla, Luis Guillermo
Aguirre, Héctor Walter.
Acevedo, Ignacio Alfredo
Águila, Jorge Néstor
Aguirre, Félix Ernesto
Aguirre, Juan José
Ahumada, Hugo Dardo
Ahumada, Julio César
Alancai, Mario Rolando
Aleman, Humberto César
Alfaro, Miguel Alberto
Almirón, Walter Norberto
Almonacid, Mario
Álvarez ,César Ernesto
Álvarez, Oscar Manuel
Álvarez, Rubén Horacio
Amarilla, Hipólito Jorge Daniel
Amesgaray, Alberto Edgardo
Andrada, Manuel Antonio
Andrada, Norberto
Arce, Angel Antonio
Artuso, Félix Oscar
Azar, Domingo Miguel
Báez, Roberto Antonio
Baiud, Jorge Carlos
Balmaceda, Argentino Antonio
Barrionuevo, Juan Edelmiro
Barrionuevo, Robustiano Armando
Barrios, Ramón
Bedini, Juan Domingo
Behrendt, Edgardo Gustavo
Benítez, Carlos Alberto
Benítez, Juan Rogelio
Benítez, Pantaleón
Bollo, Juan Carlos
Bordón, Antonio Mario
Bordón, Miguel Angel
Bordoy, Roberto Aldo
Boutron, Rubén Isidro
Brizuela, Osvaldo Luis
Brouchoud, Delis Héctor
Caballero, Héctor Ricardo
Caballero, Roberto Marcelino
Cáceres, Luis Martín
Cácerez, Francisco
Campos, Bernardino lsidoro
Cardozo, José Daniel
Cardozo, Julio Antonio
Casali, Héctor Aníbal
Cassano, Julio Ernesto
Castillo, Julio Saturnino
Castillo, Osvaldo Roque
Castro, Néstor Daniel
Castro, Pedro Antonio
Caticha, Rubén Darío
Caviglioli, Hugo Daniel
Cerles, Héctor Abel
Cicotti, Jorge Enrique
Cisneros, Omar Santiago
Colombo, Oscar Aldo
Condori, Nieve Claudio
Córdoba, Juan Carlos
Córdoba, Néstor David
Coronel, Abel Eugenio
Correa, Héctor Basilio
Corvalán, Néstor Daniel
Cruz, Orlando
Cuello, Julio César
Cueva, Carlos Alberto del Rosario
Chaile, José Francisco
Chaile, Omar Andrés
Dabolo, Juan Carlos
De Chiara, Orlando
De Rosa, Rubén Norberto
Del Monte, Ernesto Rubén
Díaz, Antonio María
Díaz, Luis Roberto
Díaz, Vicente Antonio
Diez Gómez, Héctor Hugo
Dorgambide, Fernando
Dufrechou, Héctor Antonio
Duks, Jorge Carlos
D'Errico, Roberto Tomás
Escobar, Orlando Adrián
Escobar, René Antonio
Escudero, Juan Miguel
Esturel, Daniel Osvaldo
Fabían, Ramón Vicente
Fajardo, Sixto Javier
Falcón, Justo Silverio
Farfan, Raúl Aristóbulo
Fattori, Gabriel Gustavo
Faur, José Dante
Fernández, Francisco Velindo
Fernández, Hugo Ramón
Fernández, Luis Roberto
Fernández, Manuel Domingo
Ferreyra, Diego
Ferreyra, Gerardo Ramón
Figueroa, Carlos Ignacio
Fleita, Matías
Flores, Luis Rolando
Flores, Mario Enrique
Florice, Raúl Omar
Francisquez, Néstor Luján
Fregote, Osvaldo Luis
Freites, César Julio
Frola, Mario Esteban
Fuentes, Julio César
Funes, Mario Alberto
Gaglianone, Marcelo Claudio
Galarza, José Luis
Galeano, José María
Galván, Juan Rolando
Galvarne, Osvaldo Aníbal
Galvez, Francisco Alfredo
Gallardo, Ricardo Gabriel
Galliano, Hugo Alberto
Gallo, Felipe Santiago
Gallo, Luis Antonio Ramón
Gaona, José Antonio
García, Antonio Fernando
García, José Luis
García, Omar Luis
Gatica, Hugo Ramón
Gazal, Enrique Omar
Gemma, Carlos Leonardo
Giachino, Pedro Edgardo
Gianotti, Luis Armando
Giaretti, Claudio Marcelo
Giorgi, Humberto Omar
Giuseppetti, Sergio
Godoy, Rubén Oscar
Gómez, Alcides Romualdo
Gómez, Edgardo José
Gómez, José Luis
Gómez, Juan Alberto
Gómez, Juan José
Gómez, Miguel Angel
Gómez Roca, Sergio Raúl
González, Alfredo Alejandro
González, Antonio Raúl
González, Carlos Angel
González, Evaristo
González, Ignacio Eloy
González, Juan Carlos
González, Juan Carlos
González, Mario Luis
González, Miguel Antonio
Gorordo, Raúl Omar
Gorosito, Héctor Omar
Gorosito, Néstor César
Gorosito, Omar Hilario
Granado, José Carlos
Granic, Claudio
Gregori, Juan Luis Domingo
Grimoldi, Claudio Ariel
Grosso, Claudio Norberto
Guanca, Patricio Alfredo
Guerrero, Marcelino
Guizzo, Norberto Delfín
Gutiérrez, Ramón
Heredia, Hugo Alberto
Heredia, José Luis
Horszczaruk, Pedro Ricardo Segundo
Ibanez, Luis Alberto
Illanes, Orlando Antonio
Inchauspe, Jorge Roberto
Iníguez, Gofredo Omar
Insaurralde, Mario de Jesús
Interlichia, Jorge Alberto
Iselli, Sergio Luis
Jira, Isaac Flavio
Juáres, Víctor Hugo
Juárez, Angel Ricardo
Jurio, Alfredo
Lacroix, Tulio Esteban
Lagos, Daniel Enrique
Laguna, Teodoro
Lamas, Marcos Antonio
Laporte, Osmar Lorenzo
Laziar, Antonio Hilario
Leguizamo, Raúl Alberto
Lena, Juan Carlos
Lencina, Juan Carlos
Leyes, Roberto
Lezcano, Arcello Esteban
Lobo, Roberto Segundo
Lobos, Julio César
López, Cristobal Castulo
Loreiro, Rubén Alberto
Lucero, José Esteban
Lugo, Fernando Esteban
Llanos, Hugo Angel León
Maciel, Enrique Alejandro
Maciel, Jorge Alfredo
Maciel, Martín Omar Augusto
Madrid, Omar Alfredo
Magliotti, Sergio Daniel
Mamani, Justo Eustaquio
Mansilla, Oscar Edgardo
Maragliano, Saverio José
Marchisio, Gerardo Marcelo
Márquez, Marcelo Gustavo
Martínez, Osvaldo Francisco
Martino, Alberto
Masin, Félix Tarcisio
Mecca, Adolfo Eduardo
Medina, Carlos Hugo
Medina, Manuel Alberto
Medina, Sergio Rubén
Melián, Anselmo Nicómedes
Méndez, José Alberto
Mendieta, Héctor Eduardo
Mendieta, Jorge Lorenzo
Mendoza, Julio Martín
Meraviglia, Ricardo Omar
Mesler, Oscar José
Meza, Miguel Angel
Meza, Ramón Antonio
Miguel, Daniel Enrique
Miguel, Eduardo Elías
Miranda, Gerardo Nicolás
Miretti, Gustavo Osvaldo
Molina, Ybar Jerónimo
Montegrosso, Oscar Alfredo
Monzón, Eleodoro
Monzón, Julio César
Morando, Néstor Alberto
Moreno, Edgardo Rubén
Moreno, Ramón Aldo
Moreno, Waldo Eduardo
Moretto, Hugo José
Motta, Alfredo Oscar
Moyano, Sergio Daniel
Muller, René Omar
Muñoz, Juan Carlos
Navarro, Ibanor
Nieva, Víctor Antonio
Nuñez, Tomás Angel
Nuñez, Víctor Raúl
Obregón, Pablo
Ocampo, Julián Héctor
Ojeda, Antonio Javier
Olariaga, Nicolás Roberto
Olavarría, Víctor Oscar
Olivieri, Claudio
Ordoñez, Ramón Edmundo
Orellana, José del Carmen
Orellano, José Alberto
Ortiz, Pablo Armando
Ortiz, Restituto
Oviedo, Augusto Oscar
Pallares, Víctor Daniel
Pardou, Jorge Delfino
Paredes, Roque Antonio
Pasinato, Jorge Oscar
Patrone, Aldo Osmar
Paz, Miguel Roberto
Paz, Ricardo Armando
Peña, Juan Efraín
Peralta, Jorge Carlos
Peralta, José Luis
Perdomo, Marcelo Fabián
Pereyra, Enrique Omar
Pereyra, Ramón Gregorio Ovidio
Pereyra, Ramón Osvaldo
Pérez, Roberto Eulalio
Piedrabuena, Eduardo José Luis
Pineda, Ricardo Lionel
Pintos, Fabián
Portillo, Rito Florencio
Pramparo, Edgardo Roberto
Pucheta, José Ernesto
Quilahueque, Isaías
Quintana, Roque Ramón
Quipildor, Oscar Alberto
Ragni, Héctor Osvaldo
Ramírez, José Luis
Ramírez, Ricardo
Ramírez Ricardo Argentino
Ramos, Eleuterio Hilario
Rava, Juan Francisco
Reartes, Ricardo Alfredo
Reguera, Juan Carlos
Ricarte, Martín Mauricio
Ríos, Héctor Rubén
Rivas, Abraham Rafael
Robledo, Sergio Ariel
Rodríguez, José Humberto
Rodríguez, Rubén Orlando
Rojas, Rubén Horacio
Rolla, Héctor Miguel
Rollheiser, Carlos Enrique
Romano, Aroldo Rubén
Romero, Daniel Alberto
Romero, Francisco
Romero, José Alberto
Romero, Marcelo Oscar
Romero, Raúl Ricardo
Romero, Teodoro Roberto
Rubio, Reynaldo Omar
Ruíz, Jorge Dennys
Ruíz, Ricardo Horacio
Sajama, Antenor
Salas Castro, Jorge Luis
Sanabria, Saturnino
Sanchez, Juan Simón
Sancho, Roberto Enrique
Sarmiento, Aníbal César
Scaglione, Claudio Norberto
Seitun, Gustavo Daniel
Sendros, Jorge Alberto
Sevilla, Gerardo Esteban
Silva, Eduardo Tomás
Siri, Fabián Edgardo
Sisterna, Jorge Luis
Soria, Roque Luis
Soriano, Miguel Angel
Sosa, Fabián Enrique
Sosa, Jorge Roberto
Sosa, José Luis
Sosa, Miguel Angel Antonio
Sosa, Osvaldo Francisco
Sotelo, Soriano
Sueldo, Atilio Indalecio
Tasiuk, Miguel Angel
Tello, Julio César
Tevez, Guillermo Omar
Tibaldo, René Angel
Toledo, Lorenzo Gabriel
Tonia, Elvio Daniel
Torlaschi, Emilio Carlos
Torres, Jorge Rubén
Torres, Pedro Angel
Torres, Ricardo Alberto
Torres, Rubén Alberto
Tortosa, Claudio Omar
Tulis, José Alberto
Turano, Juan Ramón
Uzqueda, Roberto Antonio
Valdéz, Carlos Alberto
Vanega, Carlos Humberto
Vargas García, Héctor Alejandro
Vargas, Omar Osvaldo
Vasalio, Angel Omar
Vázquez, Julio Oscar
Velázquez, Miguel Marcelo
Vélez, Jorge Luis
Vendramín, Pedro Antonio
Ventancú, Martín Rey
Vera, Darío Eleodoro
Vera, Omar Elvio
Vergara, Alejandro Antonio
Verón, Armando Rosa
Verón, Juan Alberto
Vila, Carlos Daniel
Vilca Condori, Mario
Villa, José Orlando
Villalba, Oscar Antonino
Villegas, José Agustín
Villordo, Mario Oscar
Vivier, Néstor Edgar
Yacante, Jorge Antonio
Zabala, Mario José
Zalazar, Ramón Elías
Zangani, Juan Carlos
Zapata, César Alberto
Zárate, Sergio Rubén
Zarzoso, Fernando Fabián
Zolórzano, Ramón Agustín
Zubizarreta, Carlos María
Zurbriggen, Elías Luis.
Arévalo, Clodoveo Miguel Angel
Novoa, Marcelo Sergio
Buschiazzo, Juan Carlos
Fiorito, Roberto Mario
Márquez, Rubén Eduardo
Sosa, Roberto Remi
Auvieux, Julio César
Dachary, Alejandro
Espinosa, Ernesto Emilio
Estévez, Roberto Néstor
Fassio, Marcos Antonio
Martella, Luis Carlos
Ramos, Alberto Rolando
Abraham, Juan Omar
Baldini, Juan Domingo
Silva, Oscar Augusto
Aguilar, Eusebio Antonio
Benzo, Víctor Jesús
Ochoa, Edgard Néstor
Sanagua, Alberto Antonio
Blanco, René Pascual
Blas, Oscar Humberto
Larrosa, Pedro Florentino
Ron, Jorge Alberto
Sbert, Mateo Antonio
Cabrera, Adolfo Luis
Campos, Pedro Andrés
Cisnero, Mario Antonio
Dimotta, Raúl Horacio
García, Sergio Ismael
Montellano, Héctor Carlos
Pereyra, Alejandro Raúl
Barros, Néstor Daniel
Quispe, Angel Fiedel
Ríos, Darío Rolando
Rios, José Luis
Ávila, Miguel Angel
Busto, Roberto Adrián
Castro, Mario Rodolfo
Chaves, Alberto Fernando
Gómez, Mario
Gómez, Raúl Adrián
González, Hipólito
González, Osmar Luis
Labalta, Oscar Eduardo
Marcial, Edmundo Federico
Miño, Luis
Orozco, Pedro Alberto
Oviedo, Héctor Rubén
Verdum, Roberto
Waudrik, Juan
Acuña, Juan José
Aguilera, Luis Orlando
Aguirre, Alberto Marcelino
Alegre, Celso
Alegre, Raúl
Almaraz, Bernardino Benito
Allende, José Luis
Antieco, Simón Oscar
Araujo, Elbio Eduardo
Arrascaeta, Miguel Angel
Austin, Ricardo Andrés
Ávalos, Ofelio Víctor
Ávalos, Omar Alberto
Ayala. Juan Alejandro
Aylán, Orlando
Azcárate, Sergio Omar
Balvidares, Horacio Adolfo
Barrios, Rafael
Bastida, Claudio Alfredo
Becerra, Walter Ignacio
Bellinzona, Diego Martín
Benítez, Angel
Blanco, Ramón Cirilo
Bordón, Luis Jorge
Brito, Omar Aníbal
Caballero, Ramón Salvador
Cao, Julio Rubén
Carballido, Sergio Alberto
Carrascull, Fabricio Edgar
Casco, Carlos Epifanio
Cini, Marcelo Gustavo
Curima, José Domingo
Del Hierro, José Luis
Desza, Sergio Raúl
Diarte, Oscar Daniel
Díaz, Carlos Agustín
Díaz, Luis Alberto
Dworak, Vladimiro
Echave, Horacio José
Encina, José Alberto
Falcón, Miguel Angel
Fernández, Carmelo
Fernández, Remigio Antonio
Ferrau, José Ramón
Ferreyra, Aldo Omar
Folch, Andrés Aníbal
Frías, Carlos Alberto
Gabrielli, Fabián Mario
García Cañete, Mario Aquilino
García, Ramón
Gattoni, Alfredo
Giraudo, Horacio Lorenzo
Gómez, Eduardo
Gómez, Martiniano
Gómez, Rubén Horacio
Gómez, Sergio Oscar
González, Miguel Angel
González, Néstor Miguel
Gramisci, Donato Manuel
Granado, Guillermo Ernesto
Gregorio, Alfredo
Guanes, Héctor Antonio
Gurrieri, Ricardo Mario
Herrera, Omar Jesús
Herrera, Ricardo Horacio
Horisberger, Juan Domingo
Hornos, Carlos Alberto
Indino, Ignacio María
Juárez, Alberto Manuel
Ledesma, Juan Roberto
Ludueña, Jorge Daniel
Lugo, Fernando Jesús
Luna, Ricardo José
Luque, Daniel Omar
Llamas, Jorge Alberto
Maciel, Gerónimo
Maciel, Ireneo Osvaldo
Maidana, Julio Héctor
Marcial, Jesús Artemio
Massad, Marcelo Daniel
Méndez, Luis José
Mendoza, Ireneo
Millapi, Oscar Calixto
Monzón, Juan Carlos
Moschen, Alberto José
Mosto, Carlos Gustavo
Nosikoski, Sergio Fabián
Núñez, Guillermo
Ojeda, Guillermo Raúl
Ortega, José Honorio
Osyguss, Carlos Omar
Pacholczuk, Rolando Máximo
Páez, Celso
Palavecino, Daniel Alberto
Palavecino, Ramón Orlando
Pascual, Miguel Angel
Pavón, Alberto Genaro
Pegoraro, Néstor Oscar Avelino
Peralta, Juan Anselmo
Pereira, Dante Luis Segundo
Pérez, Vicente Ramón
Petrucelli, Alberto Daniel
Pizarro, Néstor Osvaldo
Planes, Marcelo Gustavo
Quintana, Juan
Quintana, Ramón Omar
Ramírez, Rubén Norberto
Reyes Lobos, José
Riquelme, Secundino Antonio
Rocha, Isaac Erasmo
Rodríguez, Andrés Daniel
Rodríguez, José Luis
Rodríguez, Juan Domingo
Rodríguez, Macedonio
Rodríguez, Mario Gustavo
Rodríguez, Víctor
Romero, Claudio Alejandro
Romero, Jorge Eduardo
Romero. José Luciano
Romero, Julio
Ronconi, Enrique Horacio
Ruíz Díaz, Gabino
Sánchez, Mario
Sánchez, Roque Evaristo
Segovia, Higinio
Segura, Julio César
Serradori, Juan Raúl
Sieyra, Fernando Luis
Sinchicay, Sergio César
Soria, Jorge Oscar
Sosa, Eduardo
Torres, Omar Enrique
Ugalde, Daniel Alberto
Vallejo, Eduardo Antonio
Vallejos, Adolfo Víctor
Vargas, Alejandro Pedro
Vojkovic, Pedro Horacio
Zabala, Arnaldo Enrique
Zelarayán, Manuel Alberto
Cabrera, Ramón Angel
Canteros, Aldo Rubén
Rodríguez, Víctor
Romero, Julio.
Sánchez, Julio Ricardo
Nasif, Guillermo
Acosta, Ramón Gumercindo
Verón, Marciano
Guerrero, Víctor Samuel
Pereyra, Carlos Misael
Treppo, Juan Carlos.
Benítez, Julio Omar
López, Jorge Eduardo.
Aguirre, Miguel
Ávila, Heriberto
Ávila, Leopoldo Marcelo
Bollero, Jorge Alfredo
Bottaro, José Estéban Francisco
Cayo, Antonio Máximo
Cuevas, Alejandro Omar
Hüdepohl, Enrique Joaquín
Ibañez, Benito Horacio
Lima, Antonio Manuel
Luzardo, Rafael
Mendieta, Pedro Antonio
Mina, Omar Héctor
Olveira, Manuel
Panigadi, Tulio Néstor
Politis, Jorge Nicolás
Rupp, Oscar Alberto
Sandoval, Néstor Omar.[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Islander KIA]Doreen Bonner
Mary Goodwin
Susan Whitley[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Timeline]2nd April At midnight Argentina puts Operation Rosario into action by bringing ships into position off the Islands;
Governor Hunt advises Islanders that Galtieri has rejected Reagan's intervention, and declares a State of Emergency at 3.25am;
Argentine special forces land at Mullet Creek at 4.30am, more troops land at York Bay at 5.30am, and by 6am are engaged in battle with the Royal Marines - 3 Argentines are killed;
The main Argentine landing force begins disembarking at Stanley at 8am, by which time the airstrip is cleared and the 25th Regiment flies in;
Governor Hunt orders the surrender at 9.15am - by now the whole town other than Government House is under Argentine control;
Galtieri hails the "recovery" of the Malvinas, saying Argentina had been left no option other than military action, while Carrington tells Parliament "Port Stanley is now occupied by Argentine military forces";
During the afternoon Governor Hunt (dressed in full regalia), other Foreign Office officials and the captured Royal Marines are forcibly evacuated by the Argentines to Montevideo;
Brigadier General Mario Menendez is appointed governor of 'Islas Malvinas' and Dependenciesz;
Stanley renamed 'Puerto Argentino';
Argentines radio news of the surrender around Grytviken at 10.30am;
Royal Marines on South Georgia attack the Argentine forces at 12.30pm but after inflicting heavy damage surrender to a far-superior force at 2.30pm;
Britain orders Argentine diplomats out of the country;
Bank of England freezes Argentine assets in Britain;
Emergency cabinet meeting approves the sending of the task force to liberate the Islands;
MPs are recalled for a special Saturday sitting of the House of Commons (first since Suez);
9 navy ships on exercise in the Mediterranean sail south;
Britain's UN ambassador Sir Anthony Parsons puts a draft resolution to the Security Council condemning the hostilities and demanding immediate Argentine withdrawal from the Islands
3rd April UN Security Council passes Resolution 502 by 10 votes to 1 (with 4 abstentions) demanding immediate Argentine withdrawal from the Islands - Argentina refuses to comply;
Labour party leader Michael Foot backs the decision to send the task force;
Emergency session of House of Commons endorses the decision to send the task force but attacks the British Government for not foreseeing the Argentine attack;
The first RAF elements of the task force deploy to Ascension Island;
Argentina reinforces its troops on South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands;
52 schoolchildren are evacuated from Stanley in a convoy of 18 landrovers
4th April British submarine Conqueror sails from Faslane;
Argentines occupy Goose Green and Darwin;
Lighthousekeeper and radio ham Reg Silvey makes radio contact with the UK and continues clandestine broadcasts throughout the occupation
5th April Aircraft carriers Hermes and Invincible sail from Portsmouth with other ships;
Carrington resigns and is replaced as Foreign Secretary by Francis Pym;
Junior Foreign Office Ministers Richard Luce and Humphrey Atkins resign
7th April Reagan approves Haig peace mission;
British Government announces it will impose a 200-mile exclusion zone around the Islands on 26 April;
Liner Canberra is requisitioned at Southampton upon her return from a world cruise;
Britain freezes $1.4 billion in Argentine assets held in British banks
8th April Haig and his team arrive in London
9th April 3 Commando Brigade sail from Southampton aboard Canberra;
European Economic Community approve economic sanctions against Argentina (Ireland and Italy veto)
10th April Haig arrives in Buenos Aires;
EEC sanctions against Argentina come into effect (against wishes of Italy and Ireland)
12th April 200 mile maritime exclusion zone around the Islands declared by Britain to prevent Argentine reinforcements and supplies reaching the Islands from the mainland;
British submarine Spartan arrives on station off Stanley;
Haig returns to London
14th April Argentine fleet leaves Puerto Belgrano;
Haig returns to Washington to brief Reagan;
Squadron of ships carrying Royal Marines and special forces sent to retake South Georgia rendezvous with Endurance;
Expatriate Chief Secretary Dick Baker is deported by the Argentines
15th April British destroyer group takes up holding position in mid-Atlantic;
Haig returns to Buenos Aires
17th April Admiral Sir John Fieldhouse chairs conference at Ascension Island with Admiral Sandy Woodward and 3 Commando Brigade which sets out detailed plans for the retaking of the Islands by force;
The main task force sails south from Ascension Island;
Haig presents Argentine junta with 5-point plan;
Argentine service councils debate Haig's proposals
18th April Argentine aircraft carrier Veinticinco de Mayo returns to port with engine trouble
19th April Argentina rejects Haig's plan unless Britain agrees to transfer sovereignty by 31 December 1982 and allow Argentine nationals to settle in the Islands;
EEC foreign ministers declare support for Britain
20th April British War Cabinet orders repossession of Islands;
Canberra arrives at Ascension Island
21st April South Georgia operation begins with failed landing by SAS on Fortuna Glacier
22nd April Pym visits Washington with the British response to Haig's proposals;
Britain warns all British nationals to leave Argentina;
British task force arrives in Falklands waters;
Galtieri visits Islands;
Argentine navy commandeers trawler Narwhal for intelligence purposes
23rd April Britain warns Argentina that any military or civilian ship or aircraft representing a threat to the task force will be destroyed
24th April Admiral Woodward's task group rendezvous with mid-Atlantic destroyers
25th April South Georgia recaptured by Royal Marines - Thatcher tells Britain to "rejoice";
Argentine submarine Santa Fe is beached on South Georgia after British attack
26th April 'Defence area' declared around British fleet;
Thatcher declares time for diplomacy is running out;
Argentines occupy Port Howard
27th April Chiefs of staff present San Carlos landing proposals (Operation Sutton) to War cabinet;
Haig's 'final package' is sent to London and Buenos Aires;
14 Stanley residents regarded by the Argentines as potential troublemakers are send to Fox Bay East
28th April Organisation of American States supports Argentina's sovereignty claim but calls for peaceful negotiations
29th April Task force arrives at exclusion zone;
Vulcan bombers arrive at Ascension Island;
Argentina rejects Haig proposals
30th April Maritime exclusion zone is declared a total exclusion zone, applicable to all ships and aircraft supporting the Argentine occupation of the Islands;
General Sir Jeremy Moore flies to Ascension for conference with Brigadier Thompson;
Reagan terminates Haig's peace mission, declares US support for Britain, imposes economic sanctions on Argentina, and offers Britain materiel and other aid
1st May Initial SAS and SBS landings on the Islands;
First Vulcan bomber raid on Stanley airport;
Sea harrier aircraft attack Stanley airport and Goose Green;
3 Argentine aircraft are shot down;
Naval bombardment of Stanley begins;
114 inhabitants of Goose Green are imprisoned in the settlement's Recreation Club for the next 4 weeks;
14 Stanley residents previously sent to Fox Bay East are placed under house arrest;
Pym returns to Washington
2nd May UN and Peru both try to initiate peace talks;
Pym meets UN Secretary General Perez de Cuellar in New York;
Peruvian President Belaunde Terry presents a peace proposal to Galtieri who gives preliminary acceptance with some modifications;
General Belgrano sunk 30 miles outside exclusion zone by submarine Conqueror on orders of War Cabinet who claim self-defence - 368 Argentines die
3rd May British forces sink one Argentine patrol boat and seriously damage another;
Argentine navy vessels are recalled to shallow waters off Argentine coastline out of reach of submarines;
Galtieri rejects Peruvian peace plan, citing General Belgrano
4th May British destroyer Sheffield hit by an exocet missile, and subsequently sinks - 20 die;
First British sea harrier piloted by Lt Nick Taylor is shot down over Goose Green;
British forces begin bombarding Argentine positions around Stanley
5th May Emergency meeting of full British cabinet approves Peruvian peace plan
6th May Two British sea harriers crash in fog;
Argentine junta rejects Peruvian peace plan;
Convoy including Canberra heads south from Ascension Island
7th May Britain extends total exclusion zone to 12 miles off Argentine coast;
de Cuellar discusses peace proposals in New York with British and Argentine delegations
8th May War cabinet dispatches landing force south from Ascension Island;
Argentina rejects Peru's peace proposals
9th May Final plans drawn up for San Carlos landing site;
Argentine trawler Narwhal bombed by sea harriers, and subsequently sinks;
Argentine positions face heavy bombardment from sea and air, especially around Stanley
10th May Task Force briefed about San Carlos landing plans;
Argentine supply ship Islas de los Estados sunk by Alacrity in Falkland Sound;
Argentina declares the entire South Atlantic a war zone
11th May Haig sends his deputy General Vernon Walters to Buenos Aires
12th May QE2 leaves Southampton with 5 Infantry Brigade comprising Scots Guards, Welsh Guards and Gurkhas
Argentine junta concedes that sovereignty of the Islands isn't a precondition to the UN peace plan
14th May Britain's ambassadors to the US and the UN summoned back to London;
Thatcher warns Britain that a peaceful settlement may not be possible;
SAS attack the Argentine base on Pebble Island and destroy supplies and 11 pucara aircraft;
3 Argentine skyhawk aircraft are shot down by sea harriers
16th May Britain's UN ambassador Sir Anthony Parsons sent back to New York with British peace proposals
17th May British peace proposals transmitted to Argentina;
Helicopter from Invincible lands SAS team in Argentina but they fail to destroy Argentine military aircraft at the Rio Grande base
18th May Landing force rendezvous with Admiral Woodward's task group;
San Carlos landing plan put to full cabinet;
Argentine junta rejects British peace proposals
19th May War cabinet gives Admiral Woodward the go ahead for landing plan;
British sea king helicopter crashes with the loss of its crew and 19 Special Forces personnel
20th May de Cuellar admits failure of UN peace talks;
Thatcher accuses Argentina of 'obduracy and delay, deception and bad faith', tells Commons of collapse of peace process, and orders task force into battle;
RMS St. Helena requisitioned by the Task Force - 19 Saint Helenian sailors volunteer to serve aboard alongside naval personnel, and after the end of the War she stays in the Islands as a minesweeper
21st May San Carlos landings begin, codenamed Operation Sutton;
British frigate Ardent sunk in San Carlos Water by air attack - 22 die;
Argonaut and Antrim hit by Argentine bombs which fail to explode - 2 die;
2 British helicopters and 15 Argentine aircraft are shot down;
Open debate commences at UN Security Council
23rd May British frigate Antelope hit by Argentine bomb which fails to explode - 1 crewman dies;
10 Argentine aircraft are shot down
24th May Antelope explodes and sinks when a bomb disposal officer attempts to defuse the bomb;
Landing craft Sir Galahad and Sir Lancelot hit by Argentine bombs which fail to explode while Sir Bedivere is damaged by a bomb exploding in water nearby;
7 Argentine aircraft are shot down
25th May British destroyer Coventry sunk by air attack - 20 die;
British container ship Atlantic Conveyor is abandoned with 3 vital chinook helicopters aboard after an exocet missile hit sets the ship ablaze - 12 die;
8 Argentine aircraft are shot down;
SAS unit reconnoitre Mount Kent
26th May War cabinet questions lack of movement out of bridgehead at San Carlos;
London makes the retaking of Goose Green a priority;
2 Para set out for Goose Green;
UN Security Council Resolution 505 instructs de Cuellar to seek negotiated settlement
27th May 45 Commando and 3 Para set out for Douglas and Teal Inlet;
SAS land in strength on Mount Kent;
Sea harriers attack Goose Green - one plane is shot down;
British forces furious when BBC World Service report 2 Para are advancing on Darwin but Argentine commander believes this is deliberate misinformation
28th May 2 Para launch attack early in the morning, and by evening surround Goose Green - 17 British and 250 Argentines die;
Colonel H Jones is killed during the attack and subsequently awarded Victoria Cross;
5 Infantry Brigade trans-ship from QE2 to Norland and Canberra at South Georgia;
British shelling by air and sea of Stanley recommences and continues for the next 16 days
29th May Argentines surrender Goose Green, British take 1,400 prisoners, and the Islanders imprisoned at Goose Green by the Argentines are released;
Organisation of American States condemns Britain's military action and calls on the US to stop helping Britain - only the US, Chile, Columbia and Trinidad & Tobago abstain
30th May 45 Commando take Douglas and 3 Para take Teal Inlet;
42 Commando advance on Mount Kent and Mount Challenger;
General Moore arrives at San Carlos;
Pope John Paul II preaches anti-war message in Coventry Cathedral
31st May 42 Commando take Mount Kent and Mount Challenger;
19 men from the Royal Marines Mountain and Arctic Warfare Cadre capture Top Malo House after a firefight;
Reagan asks Thatcher not to inflict too serious a defeat on the Argentines
1st June 5 Infantry Brigade begins disembarkation at San Carlos;
War cabinet debate further peace proposals;
Britain repeats its ceasefire terms;
Updated Shackleton Report ordered
2nd June 2 Para reach Bluff Cove;
Argentine military envoys arrive in New York offering to surrender to the UN
3rd June Versailles summit opens;
Reagan's 5-point plan given to Britain
4th June Britain and US veto Panamanian-Spanish immediate ceasefire resolution in UN Security Council;
Spain criticises Britain's military action, becoming the only NATO country not to support Britain
2 Para occupy the undefended Bluff Cove and Fitzroy
5th June Scots Guards depart San Carlos at night on board Intrepid heading for Fitzroy
6th June Scots Guards land at Fitzroy in early morning;
Versailles summit supports British position on the conflict;
Welsh Guards depart San Carlos at night on board Fearless heading for Fitzroy
7th June A shortage of landing craft mean half the Welsh Guards land at Fitzroy in early morning but the rest return to San Carlos, which they leave again at night on board landing craft Sir Galahad and Sir Tristram;
President Reagan pays official visit to Britain
8th June Plymouth in Falkland Sound is hit by 4 Argentine bombs but none explode;
Sir Galahad and Sir Tristram are bombed at Fitzroy while the Welsh Guards are waiting to disembark - 51 die including 38 Welsh Guards and 55 are seriously wounded;
War cabinet asked not to reveal Fitzroy casualties;
Landing craft Foxtrot-4 sunk with British vehicles aboard;
3 Argentine skyhawks are shot down by sea harriers;
General Moore finalises battle plan for Stanley
10th June Falklands Appeal launched under patronage of Lord Shackleton;
Peru sends 10 mirage jets to Argentina to replenish losses
11th June Battle for Stanley begins on Mount Longdon, Mount Harriet and Two Sisters - 23 paras and 50 Argentines die;
Sergeant Ian McKay of 3 Para is killed on Mount Longdon and subsequently awarded Victoria Cross;
3 Islanders killed during British naval bombardment of Stanley;
Pope John Paul II visits Argentina and denounces all wars as 'unjust'
12th June 3 Para take Mount Longdon - another 6 paras and 50 Argentines die, including Sergeant Ian John McKay who is awarded a posthumous Victoria Cross;
42 Commando take Mount Harriet and 45 Commando take Two Sisters;
British destroyer Glamorgan badly damaged by land-launched exocet missile - 13 die;
5 Infantry Brigade moves into position
13th June Battle for Tumbledown, Wireless Ridge and Mount William - 15 Britons and 40 Argentines die
14th June By daylight Argentine troops are fleeing in disarray, by mid-morning white flags are flying in Stanley, and by noon the British have marched to the outskirts of Stanley;
Thatcher informs the Commons at 10.15pm UK time that the Argentines have surrendered;
General Mario Menendez surrenders to Major General Jeremy Moore at 9pm FI time;
9,800 Argentine troops put down their arms
15th June British officers are flown by helicopter to the outlying settlements to accept the surrender of local Argentine commanders;
Stanley's historic Globe Store is destroyed by an Argentine arsonist;
Canberra embarks 1,200 Argentine POWs at San Carlos
16th June Canberra embarks a further 1,850 Argentine POWs in Port William outside Stanley;
Peter Blaker, Defence Minister of State, announces that the official count of British military and civilian war dead is 255, with approximately 300 wounded
17th June Galtieri resigns
18th June Canberra sails from Port William with 3,046 Argentine POWs aboard once Argentina guarantees her safe passage
19th June Canberra offloads the POWs at Puerto Madryn, Argentina;
Britain announces that 11,845 Argentines were captured
20th June British forces land on Southern Thule (South Sandwich Islands) - Argentines surrender without a fight;
Britain formally declares an end to hostilities;
200 mile exclusion zone established around the Islands during the war is replaced by a Falkland Islands Protection Zone of 150 miles;
British newspaper 'The Sunday Times' publishes an unsubstantiated story that Argentina had been holding 7 members of the British Secret Air Service since 19 May, captured whilst providing intelligence information on Argentine Air Force plane departures to the British fleet;
EEC lifts economic sanctions against Argentina
22nd June Retired Army General Reynaldo Bignone replaces Galtieri as President of Argentina;
Argentine army assumes full power, the Navy and Air Force withdrawing from the Junta
24rd June Thatcher visits Reagan in Washington
25th June Governor Rex Hunt returns to Stanley as Civil Commsisioner;
Canberra departs Falklands waters with 40, 42 and 45 Commando on board
26th June Service of Thanksgiving and Remembrance at St. Paul's Cathedral in London
28th June Argentina releases 3 British journalists imprisoned on spying charges at the beginning of the War
2nd July Argentine war toll set at 645 dead and missing;
Rear Admiral John (Sandy) Woodward replaced by Rear Admiral Derek Roy Reffell as Commander of the British naval task force, and Major General Jeremy Moore replaced by Major General David Thorne as Commander of the British ground forces
6th July Thatcher appoints an official commission headed by Lord Franks to examine the causes of Britain's failure to prevent Argentine capture of the Islands
7th July EEC agrees to provide financial aid to the Islands
8th July Argentina releases its only acknowledged British prisoner of war, an airman shot down near Stanley in May;
Thatcher announces British government will repatriate bodies of dead British servicemen buried in the Falklands for reburial in Britain if requested by next-of-kin
11th July Canberra arrives home at Southampton with 40, 42 and 45 Commando;
Britain drops its condition that Argentina formally acknowledge the end of hostilities before repatriating the remaining prisoners of war
12th July USA ends trade sanctions against Argentina
14th July Final 593 Argentine prisoners of war (mostly officers and technicians) repatriated
17th July Britain admits to falsifying press releases during the war to mislead Argentina
22nd July Britain lifts the Exclusion Zone around the Islands
26th July Brigadier General Mario Menendez dismissed from Argentine army
24th August RMS St. Helena arrives home in St. Helena
12 October Victory Parade in London
4 November UN General Assembly passes a resolution calling for a peaceful solution to the sovereignty dispute
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http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/1/27/3255536/1982v4.xml

Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:16 pm
by koontz1973

Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:53 pm
by Dukasaur
I can't read the letters in the legend at all. It's not so much that they are small (I understand there's a lot of information to put into a small area) but they seem fuzzy, as if someone airbrushed over top of them. Is there some way to improve the clarity?

Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:18 am
by koontz1973
Dukasaur wrote:I can't read the letters in the legend at all. It's not so much that they are small (I understand there's a lot of information to put into a small area) but they seem fuzzy, as if someone airbrushed over top of them. Is there some way to improve the clarity?

The letters/font are what they are. There is no effects in the small (unlike the large). I think this should improve them a bit but unless I get room, I cannot get them any better.

Large.
[bigimg]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5322/1982l1.png[/bigimg]
Small.
[bigimg]http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3006/1982s.png[/bigimg]
xml.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/1/27/3255536/1982v4.xml

Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:48 am
by Dukasaur
koontz1973 wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:I can't read the letters in the legend at all. It's not so much that they are small (I understand there's a lot of information to put into a small area) but they seem fuzzy, as if someone airbrushed over top of them. Is there some way to improve the clarity?

The letters/font are what they are. There is no effects in the small (unlike the large). I think this should improve them a bit but unless I get room, I cannot get them any better.

Yeah, it's the large that I'm talking about, and yes, the effects. See, when I blow it up I can see clearly exactly what is what:
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You've airbrushed around the letters. At high zoom like this, it looks very nice, but at normal resolution it's just a blur. The "3rd regiment" looks like it could be "Grd regiment" and the "6th regiment" I couldn't make out at all until I borrowed my wife's glasses. Without them the "6" looked like a "0" because the top arm of the "6" completely merged into the round bottom part.

Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:03 am
by koontz1973
Duckasaur, honestly, on the large, I cannot see the problem you are referring to. Not being dishonest here but really? The effect was put in as a request from some of the other map makers, taken out from the small but asked to keep it in the large. If it does prove to be a huge issue, I will remove it ASAP, but right now I will keep it but tone it down some more. If that does not work and someone else says the same thing as you (anyone) I will remove it completely.

Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:57 pm
by Dukasaur
koontz1973 wrote:Duckasaur, honestly, on the large, I cannot see the problem you are referring to. Not being dishonest here but really? The effect was put in as a request from some of the other map makers, taken out from the small but asked to keep it in the large. If it does prove to be a huge issue, I will remove it ASAP, but right now I will keep it but tone it down some more. If that does not work and someone else says the same thing as you (anyone) I will remove it completely.

Sorry, man. Maybe I'm just old and I need new eyes. I was just discussing the other day that I can't read the subtitles on foreign movies any more either. To me the legend is just a blur, but if I really am the only one then you're perfectly right; you can't jump through hoops just for one person.

Still, paradoxically, I can read the small legend on the small version without too much trouble, even though it's smaller, but without the effect.

Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:29 pm
by koontz1973
Thanks Duck. Lets see if the problem is an issue. If it is, then, I will sort it.

Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:06 am
by erazor
I can read the legends more than OK. When will this one be playable?

Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:57 am
by natty dread
Dukasaur wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:Duckasaur, honestly, on the large, I cannot see the problem you are referring to. Not being dishonest here but really? The effect was put in as a request from some of the other map makers, taken out from the small but asked to keep it in the large. If it does prove to be a huge issue, I will remove it ASAP, but right now I will keep it but tone it down some more. If that does not work and someone else says the same thing as you (anyone) I will remove it completely.

Sorry, man. Maybe I'm just old and I need new eyes. I was just discussing the other day that I can't read the subtitles on foreign movies any more either. To me the legend is just a blur, but if I really am the only one then you're perfectly right; you can't jump through hoops just for one person.

Still, paradoxically, I can read the small legend on the small version without too much trouble, even though it's smaller, but without the effect.


Man, you need glasses. Seriously. Go to an optometrist.

Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:16 am
by Gilligan
I can definitely see where Dukasaur is going with this...It is a little blurred (at least from my eyes...)

Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:57 am
by koontz1973
Gilligan wrote:I can definitely see where Dukasaur is going with this...It is a little blurred (at least from my eyes...)

It is not blurred. There is a slight glow to it at the same colour. This gives the effect of the spread that the old monitors gave. But as I said to duckie, if any one else sees the problem, it will be solved. Here is my solution. Reducing the effect by 10%. If it is turned of, it looks bloody awful.
[bigimg]http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6751/1982l.png[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3006/1982s.png[/bigimg]
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/1/27/3255536/1982v4.xml

Can we play this one now?

Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:42 pm
by Gilligan
Personally, more legible...But if you don't think it looks as good, then go back to the other one.

Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:29 pm
by thehippo8
Gilligan wrote:Personally, more legible...But if you don't think it looks as good, then go back to the other one.


Just to throw my spanner in the works ... I liked the earlier version ... this one is just misses the point for me! :|

Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:41 pm
by koontz1973
thehippo8 wrote:
Gilligan wrote:Personally, more legible...But if you don't think it looks as good, then go back to the other one.


Just to throw my spanner in the works ... I liked the earlier version ... this one is just misses the point for me! :|

I preferred the older one but if players are going to have trouble reading it, then it needs to be sorted. IMO the older one looked better and was readable, but if players cannot read it, legibility trumps style. That has to be able to be read. Now that that is sorted, lets play some.

Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:55 pm
by thehippo8
I have to agree with you Koontz!

Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:20 am
by charmir
How much longer till we get this one?

Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:01 am
by thenobodies80
This is the final small version? http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3006/1982s.png

Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:04 am
by koontz1973
That looks like it. About six posts before yours with the large and xml.

Why?

Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:08 am
by DiM
sorry to appear so late in the process. i'm not really following the foundry too much lately. but the small map is really bad compared to the large. it's like you completely added noise and then blurred the hell out of everything.
i understand some details are lost when size is reduced but this is ridiculous:

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Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:12 am
by DiM
also the map has no supersize stamp and yet the big image is over the 830*800 dimensions.

Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:16 am
by koontz1973
DiM, there is late and there is late, this has been sitting here for over two months now waiting for beta. F.off. ;) Ask isaiah40 for it, it was given, just never posted in my thread, so could not put on page one. :roll:

Imageshack strikes again a my files do not match those. Here is a clean version hopefully.
Small.
[bigimg]http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3006/1982s.png[/bigimg]

Large again.
[bigimg]http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6751/1982l.png[/bigimg]

xml.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/1/27/3255536/1982v4.xml

Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:22 am
by DiM
koontz1973 wrote:DiM, there is late and there is late, this has been sitting here for over two months now waiting for beta. F.off. ;)


i don't give a flying f*ck about the foundry anymore but i saw tnb80 putting maps into beta and i wanted to see what's coming. nothing personal.

koontz1973 wrote:Ask isaiah40 for it, it was given, just never posted in my thread, so could not put on page one. :roll:


how was i supposed to know that? keep your first post updated with all stamps and it will be fine.

koontz1973 wrote:Imageshack strikes again a my files do not match those. Here is a clean version hopefully.
Small.
[bigimg]http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3006/1982s.png[/bigimg]


this looks much crisper. see? i may have been late but i caused good changes :mrgreen:

Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:28 am
by koontz1973
isaiah40 wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:At one place, there is four rims vertical so to include the frame (5), that is a total of 25 pixels. I really do not want to go larger, but isaiah gave some extra pixels on the understanding that it was for text. Will ask if I can use that for larger borders. That should be enough to give the frame a larger feel to it, then I can space the middle ones out some.

We will allow you up 880x845 on the large and 670x643 on the small. This should give you enough room.


The stamp was never given but here is his post from page 18.

i don't give a flying f*ck about the foundry anymore but i saw tnb80 putting maps into beta and i wanted to see what's coming. nothing personal.

You not see the smilie, was being ironic but obviously failed.
this looks much crisper. see? i may have been late but i caused good changes :mrgreen:

There was no change. Not touched the file for well over a month now. I bet nobodies comes back with the same gripes as you and they have all been sorted. :D