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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:39 pm
by wicked
poo-maker wrote:Not that you guys aren't doing a great job. But, haven't you all been mods since cc was a couple months old? There are more things to do since then, and i think that making someone like hecter a mod, would get things done faster.
Nope. IC was just made a mod recently... couple months ago? I was made a mod last June. Not sure about the others. As far as "more to do" ... we adjust and help each other out as needed. And Lack has automated a lot of things to make our jobs easier.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:40 pm
by joeyjordison
wicked wrote:joeyjordison wrote:some mods aren't all that kind to new players.
Excuse me? That's hardly the case at all.
hey you guys all do a good job but sometimes you can be a little blunt. on the whole you don't do it but every now and then some1 gets a bit touchy.
hecter wrote:Guys, AK and wicked have both said no. They obviously don't want me to be a mod, and it is largely there decision. I imagine we can just let this thread die now.
yeh i suppose so but i'll continue because i just want it talked through. i'm not trying to force a decision and want the mods to make the decision based upon what they think will benefit the site most. if they say its end of discussion then it is.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:42 pm
by wicked
Mods are nothing but nice to newbies. If we get out of line, the monkey gets out his whip.

I've yet to see a newbie get upset over a mod answer... it's mostly the community members who tend to be rude, blunt and give out wrong info. If you're worried about how newbies are treated, talk to those people... although I've done that a lot already. In fact, I think I asked hecter at one point to be nicer to newbies.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:42 pm
by poo-maker
wicked wrote:poo-maker wrote:Not that you guys aren't doing a great job. But, haven't you all been mods since cc was a couple months old? There are more things to do since then, and i think that making someone like hecter a mod, would get things done faster.
Nope. IC was just made a mod recently... couple months ago? I was made a mod last June. Not sure about the others. As far as "more to do" ... we adjust and help each other out as needed. And Lack has automated a lot of things to make our jobs easier.
Meh, i wasn't sure about the bit about how long you have been mods.
I think that there should be a new mod, but the new mod should be approved by existing mods too.
I'll shut-up now

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:42 pm
by RobinJ
Well Hecter certainly seems to have enough time on his hand - almost 6000 posts

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:44 pm
by joeyjordison
wicked wrote:If we get out of line, the monkey gets out his whip.
lol. bet u like that don't u

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:44 pm
by wicked
You're right poo.. the existing mods do have to approve.
Why should there be a new mod?
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:45 pm
by RobinJ
joeyjordison wrote:wicked wrote:If we get out of line, the monkey gets out his whip.
lol. bet u like that don't u


Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:45 pm
by joeyjordison
poo-maker wrote:I think that there should be a new mod, but the new mod should be approved by existing mods too.
sums up my view too.
AK and wicked if u aren't happy with hecter as a mod then it isn't going to happen. thanks for the time and hecter i hope you carry on being helpful even if you don't get mod status
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:50 pm
by hecter
wicked wrote:In fact, I think I asked hecter at one point to be nicer to newbies.

I don't remember that. I just know that you have asked me to stop spamming the forums every so often…
In terms of the mods capabilities, I know that they are great at it. They are fairly mature, and only rag on people that they know can take it well (i.e. Spamalot) and they do there job well. I think that the ONLY issue in this matter is how fast they can get to it. A new mod would be able to provide answers, deleted posts and moved threads faster. Now, both AK and wicked have decided that IF there was to be a new mod, it probably wouldn't be me. I think that we all can respect that decision, and move on.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:51 pm
by wicked
I don't think there's a speed problem at all.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:51 pm
by cleveridea
AK_iceman wrote:Why do we need more?
Before AK's question were answered, it begs to be asked of Hector
what more would you do as a mod than you can as a civilian?
I'm not terribly familiar with Hecter, but even assuming the very best about him my guess is not much more. It's about prestige. Prestige, not necessarily for Hecter - but those familiar in his CC circles.
Judging by the content of many, CC has becoming an identifying social outlet for the nerdy. Starting committees and acheiving "mod" status are just means to an undeniable climb in standing.
It's the only explanation for this - why else wouldn't contributing meaningfully and helping foster the same in others be insufficient as its own reward?
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:54 pm
by Phobia
I tHinK i sHoULd b3 m0D, I cAn tYp3 r£Al c0oL lIk3 tHiS!!!11!
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:55 pm
by joeyjordison
cleveridea wrote:It's about prestige. Prestige, not necessarily for Hecter - but those familiar in his CC circles.
possibly but i didn't suggest it for those reasons. you can check and you will find that the only things i know of hecter are his posts in topics i have read.
as for what could he actually do with mod status it would reinforce what he says and would give him the ability to move and delete posts as necessary
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:58 pm
by wicked
And BTW, general forum mod duty is really pretty tame, and speed of answering questions or moving threads really isn't a problem. There's been no real need for much as of late. There's only been an occassional troll, nothing really major. Be glad most of you weren't around for the bad trolls. The mods are primarily in place as a stopgap to a forum takeover from trolls, second to that is the general mundane day-to-day stuff. And with new tools from Lack in place to further prevent mass trolling, our jobs are that much easier.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:00 pm
by wicked
joeyjordison wrote:as for what could he actually do with mod status it would reinforce what he says and would give him the ability to move and delete posts as necessary
Again, let me reiterate... moving/deleting threads is not really a big deal and there's no "emergency" component of that.

General forum stuff is the smallest percentage of what we do as mods.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:02 pm
by AK_iceman
Phobia wrote:I tHinK i sHoULd b3 m0D, I cAn tYp3 r£Al c0oL lIk3 tHiS!!!11!
Can we keep him wicked? Can we, can we?

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:03 pm
by hecter
Man… You're easily won over…
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:04 pm
by cleveridea
joeyjordison wrote:...it would reinforce what he says...
Over time the quality of what he has to say will definitely do the trick - it worked in terms of your respect for what he has to say - all without being a mod, right?
joeyjordison wrote:... andwould give him the ability to move and delete posts as necessary...
I don't think anyone has even made a case that these things are being done less than admirably already. Heck, wicked stomped my goofy post the other day in like 5 minutes.
Anyway, I'm just having a conversation not making accusations. I think I'm right about why someone would desire being a mod, but it's just my musings at that.
Carry on.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:06 pm
by joeyjordison
fair enough. so hecter won't be a mod in the near future. regardless of who it would be surely it would help if there was 1 more mod?
i think it would but then i don't know the whole story.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:06 pm
by wicked
AK_iceman wrote:Phobia wrote:I tHinK i sHoULd b3 m0D, I cAn tYp3 r£Al c0oL lIk3 tHiS!!!11!
Can we keep him wicked? Can we, can we?

Sure... but he's a she.
PRESTIGE???? HAHHAHAHAHHA
OMG don't make me laugh so hard... it hurts. If you only saw the PM's and emails we get constantly cussing us out.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:08 pm
by Phobia
wicked wrote:AK_iceman wrote:Phobia wrote:I tHinK i sHoULd b3 m0D, I cAn tYp3 r£Al c0oL lIk3 tHiS!!!11!
Can we keep him wicked? Can we, can we?

Sure... but he's a she.
Oh God, not this again

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:08 pm
by hecter
None of which were from me BTW! I don't cuss them out!
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:13 pm
by cleveridea
wicked wrote:PRESTIGE???? HAHHAHAHAHHA
OMG don't make me laugh so hard... it hurts. If you only saw the PM's and emails we get constantly cussing us out.

I don't doubt you a bit. I really try to throw you a thank you every once in a while just to even out the onslaught.
Still, I think prestige is ultimately what many here seek - look at what all the point system arguments turn out to be. Unfortunately there isn't real prestige to be had here, just some fun. But people like to pretend.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:17 pm
by wicked
People want the power, yes. They wanna be able to move threads...oooh... how exciting.
