Moderators: Multi Hunters, Cheating/Abuse Team

Say it isn't so!! masterkage I have not seen you like forever, and I am not spamming, btw love them new black jesus's you are selling thank you so much.owenshooter wrote:what?!!! masterkage?!!! i haven't seen that kid around in forever!!! say it ain't so, masterkage!!! say it ain't so!! the black jesus is praying this is a false accusation...-0

just read the chat... no such thing is stated... you just didn't like the outcome of the game. if you don't like the way he plays, put him on foe and move on. i don't really think you have any proof of a secret diplomacy. people can't get in trouble for playing in a manner that doesn't help you win or for playing badly (according to how you think a turn should be played by them) it just simply isn't against the rules. i truly doubt there was any secret diplomacy... the black jesus has put in his 2 cents...-0Heart of Space wrote: Comments: The game was an 8 player assassin freestyle on doodle earth. Masterkage777 admitted in the game chat to killing me, towin12s target, deliberately, thus throwing the game and giving towin12 an undeserved win. He did so without provocation. Please check the game chat to verify my claims,


nope, i sure didn't... still not against the rules... where is the proof of a secret alliance asBruceswar wrote:Owen did you miss this..
2009-02-07 15:52:54 - towin12: im not going to deloy
2009-02-07 15:53:03 - towin12: to teach u a lesson
2009-02-07 15:53:14 - towin12: wow
2009-02-07 15:53:16 - masterkage777: gg pink
2009-02-07 15:53:21 - Heart of Space: blue
2009-02-07 15:53:31 - Heart of Space: was that deliberate?
2009-02-07 15:53:38 - Heart of Space: someone report that...
2009-02-07 15:53:39 - masterkage777: sure was

how is bad play "abuse of the rules"? i don't see the two conspiring in secret as the OP is claiming. the OP angered masterkage, and he retaliated by keeping him from winning the game. i don't see how that is abuse. just because someone looks like they are going to win the game, doesn't mean they HAVE to win the game. right? this ruling will be interesting, because there is no evidence of them conducting secret diplomacy, whatsoever. one flippant remark in game chat from masterkage is hardly proof. that could have been sarcasm. that could have been him pushing the OP's buttons, that could have been him telling the OP to "F" off... there just isn't any evidence of conducting secret diplomacy, period... the black jesus is eagerly awaiting this verdict...-0FabledIntegral wrote:According to King_achilles, this counts as an "abuse of the rules." It does not constitute a "gross abuse of the rules" until repeated situations are found (it's found to be regular in that person's gameplay). Thus this might get noted, at the very worst, and I'm not even sure of that.

I'm afraid I'm going to side with Owen on this one. It's not secret diplomacy, but a possible case of deliberately throwning the game instead.owenshooter wrote: this ruling will be interesting, because there is no evidence of them conducting secret diplomacy, whatsoever.
yeah, that was some mega fast secret diplomacy for a speed game that lasted 5 minutes!!! ha!!! thanks for coming in here and explaining yourself, master...-0masterkage777 wrote:towin12 had no idea i was going to kill his target, i knew it was his because he nearly killed him the first round, i made that choice on my own willit's a assassin doodle ffs
bitch about a real game


even that is debatable, and he isn't accused of that, he is accused of secret diplomacy in a speed freestyle game that lasted 5 minutes. and if poor play or bad decisions that cause others to lose games are considered cheating, you just nailed about 89 percent of the site!! i don't think masterkage is guilty as charged... i think you have a sore loser looking to even the score.-0wcaclimbing wrote:So it looks like its not secret diplomacy, but I still don't get why masterkage made that kill...
It does fall under the 'throwing games' part of the rules, though.

towin, you dirty rotten cheat j/k.towin12 wrote:maybe he just wanted to lose less points and that's why he did it. I dont even know him


not with that sexy avatar you are sporting!!! is that from the '08 band calendar?!! whooo!!!-0masterkage777 wrote:which won't happen

Does pming a [current] Mod conducting secret diplomacy during a speed game count ? It went somewhere along the lines of-- Errr, you're already dead will you take a card and end so I can mid-turn off you?king achilles wrote:Poor sportsmanship is more likely. Masterkage777 may have chosen who should win the game since he thinks he wasn't going to and towin12 is the highest rank among his other opponents, so less points to lose for him.
If you can come up with more games where these two allegedly made moves that is suspect of a secret alliance between them, then we shall look into this further.