groonpooch and groondogg investigation please[CLEARED]es

[willedtowin1]

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Accused:

[player]groonpooch[/player]
[player]groondogg[/player]
[player]xxxxxxx[/player]



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy <----- This
Severe PM Abuse
Other: <Explanation>



Game number(s):

Game 12540731
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]


Comments:
They are playing many single player games together and it looks like they
are helping each other out. I think they know each other and are using
secret diplomacy. please investigate this matter.

[NoSurvivors]

Accused:

[player]groonpooch[/player]
[player]groondogg[/player]



The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy




Game number(s):

Game 12540731


Comments:
They are playing many single player games together and it looks like they
are helping each other out. I think they know each other and are using
secret diplomacy. please investigate this matter.

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[Evil Semp]

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Accused:

[player]groonpooch[/player]
[player]groondogg[/player]
[player]xxxxxxx[/player]



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy <----- This
Severe PM Abuse
Other: <Explanation>



Game number(s):

Game 12540731
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]


Comments:
They are playing many single player games together and it looks like they
are helping each other out. I think they know each other and are using
secret diplomacy. please investigate this matter.

This is a fog game so right now it is hard to see what is going on. Is this complaint based on the comment in the game chat? It would be helpful if you gave some details so when the fog lifts.

[willedtowin1]

Please look at thier find all games for button:
http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... ndogg&so=D

http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... pooch&so=D

as you can see they are playing many games together. I did post this
after I seen the post in the chat of the game I am playing with them.
I looked at their games played category and I suspect they are teaming up
together at this point. At the least I am bringing this to your attention now to nip it in the bud early. They haven't gain much ground yet....but they are starting to play more and more singles games together and I dont have enough proof as of yet as you said...they are fog games. Thought maybe you could see thru the fog but wasnt sure.

[Evil Semp]

Please look at thier find all games for button:
http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... ndogg&so=D

http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... pooch&so=D

as you can see they are playing many games together. I did post this
after I seen the post in the chat of the game I am playing with them.
I looked at their games played category and I suspect they are teaming up
together at this point. At the least I am bringing this to your attention now to nip it in the bud early. They haven't gain much ground yet....but they are starting to play more and more singles games together and I dont have enough proof as of yet as you said...they are fog games. Thought maybe you could see thru the fog but wasnt sure.

Playing a lot of games together isn't against the rules. You suspect they are teaming up. Post the actions in your current game that make it look like they are working together and then we can go from there. Without your help with some details then cheaters won't get caught.

[willedtowin1]

so far after 8 rounds only 1 of them has hit the other and takin an army.
that is why I am suspect

[Evil Semp]

so far after 8 rounds only 1 of them has hit the other and takin an army.
that is why I am suspect

With the logic above how would you evaluate these attack numbers? With the number of attacks against groonpooch by waototo, jvantassel and mooman547 than maybe you should amend your complaint to include them.

waltoto has 1 attack against jvantassel, groonpooch, mooman547
jvantassel has 1 attack against wol va rine, groonpooch, mooman547
groondogg has 1 attack against mooman547
groonpooch has 0 attacks against groondogg
akabob2 has 0 attacks against wol va rine
mooman547 has 1 attack against akabob2, groonpooch

I am just asking for you to point me in the right direction. Again are there any actions other than the number of times they have attacked each other and the post in game chat?

[betiko]

it's legitimate to ask yourself the question, or not?????

[Evil Semp]

it's legitimate to ask yourself the question, or not?????

I don't understand you question.

[jsnyder748]

it's legitimate to ask yourself the question, or not?????

I don't understand you question.

he's french!

[betiko]

it's legitimate to ask yourself the question, or not?????

I don't understand you question.

And I don t understand what you don t understand.. The OP has the right to ask for a multicheck on this, it all looks shady enough to ask for an investigation.

[Evil Semp]

it's legitimate to ask yourself the question, or not?????

I don't understand you question.

And I don t understand what you don t understand.. The OP has the right to ask for a multicheck on this, it all looks shady enough to ask for an investigation.

I was asking for more information to help. I pointed out that what he has posted is very weak information. He is the one in the game. I only have the game log to go by. They have only attacked each other once is not enough to convince me of secret diplomacy. At the time I asked the game was still going on and it is a fog game.

Yes he has the right to accuse someone but I feel he also has the responsibility to provide some evidence to support his accusation.

[PonyGal]

12424794 They have been accused of this in games before & give game chat info in this game .. maybe that helps (i'd check past games together & go through the log to see if they attacked each other much in those, they say they are brothers and to be fair if this is one person then its the worst multi names evverr ) Although if they're bros they probably are less likely to attack each other (unless it was my brother ) good luck hope this game helps sort things.

[betiko]

If they are brothers they might as well play team games together, repeatedly play in the same multiplayer game is fishy.

[Evil Semp]

It looks to me groonpooch's [orange] strongest position was in Asia/China area and groondogg was in the Americas. Is it realistic to expect them to search out and attack each other? Would it be anymore realistic to have expected jvantassel to head to S. America and break the bonus of willedtowin1?

Should it make a difference if they are brothers or friends if the only basis for the complaint is their relationship to each other?

I don't see the secret diplomacy in this game. Marking this CLEARED.