Congrats Kiron Freemium Conqueror!

[xiangwang]

Congrats to Kiron for being one of the few Freemium conquerors! Took you awhile but you made it on your specialized map strategy (which is quite good).

[Kiron]

Thanks (you upgraded rank to brigadier too)! Just lose a few more games to me and you will make General

[jsnyder748]

Now what will you do? buy premium and play massive amounts of random games for medals or maybe turn towards the clan scene and start to learn team games? or retire lol

[a6mzero]

Congrats for the sleazy play which got u your rank

[jdw35]

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[smegal69]

Congrats to the new Conqueror, i guess GLG is not the only one to use shady tactics to reach the Top.

Well if you can't win a game, i suppose it's better that your mate wins it

[Kiron]

C'mon it was one game where an honest mistake was made regarding the understanding of making deals considering I have been victim of these past deals many times (just assumed it was okay, not the best excuse, but mistakes happen). It's as though I have been making these deals the entire time to climb up the ranks. Oh well, haters will be haters

[Butters1919]

It takes many games to make conqueror. So long as they are not all of the same sort (ahem: GLG) then it's all fine. Let's all be realistic, should any one of us become conqueror, we likely all have something in our past that could be brought up amongst the naysayers and detractors.

Well done Kiron. Congrats on Conqueror!

[codeblue1018]

xiangwang, you "gave" him conqueror status. Kiron, I get it that it was one game that you employed these tactics and yes there will be haters; there always will be. I find it hard to believe that what you did and how you attained your rank-up you didn't think it was shady or against the rules. I mean, really? Clearly you're a strong player; that isn't the issue. The issue is how you won that game; it was shady and frankly against the rules. The old, I've been the victim of it many times, so it must be legit is a very absurd response. How did you think of these tactics when they happened to you "many" times. You didn't think this was cheap or perhaps a rule violation? C'mon mate; of course you did.

[jsnyder748]

xiangwang, you "gave" him conqueror status. Kiron, I get it that it was one game that you employed these tactics and yes there will be haters; there always will be. I find it hard to believe that what you did and how you attained your rank-up you didn't think it was shady or against the rules. I mean, really? Clearly you're a strong player; that isn't the issue. The issue is how you won that game; it was shady and frankly against the rules. The old, I've been the victim of it many times, so it must be legit is a very absurd response. How did you think of these tactics when they happened to you "many" times. You didn't think this was cheap or perhaps a rule violation? C'mon mate; of course you did.

This actually has happened quite a few times. to HIM lol.

[betiko]

still seems like a more legit conqueror than rabbitonto me, mostly if he's been the victim of this more that he's taken advantage of it. nevertheless, i think people should stop doing that.

[codeblue1018]

still seems like a more legit conqueror than rabbitonto me, mostly if he's been the victim of this more that he's taken advantage of it. nevertheless, i think people should stop doing that.

I agree with part of your statement; I don't know enough about rabbiton to form an opinion, however, he can play from the set of games he played against Josko on hive; he does have skill.

[smegal69]

C'mon it was one game where an honest mistake was made regarding the understanding of making deals considering I have been victim of these past deals many times (just assumed it was okay, not the best excuse, but mistakes happen). It's as though I have been making these deals the entire time to climb up the ranks. Oh well, haters will be haters

you seem to make a lot of Mistakes....... but seems to be a lot with your housemate and buddies
i would hate to guess how many victims you have left in your climb to the top

a short history on Kiron

well if i can't win, why not make my housemate/buddies win the game
viewtopic.php?f=239&t=162598&hilit=Kiron&start=45

we know he like to made deals behind closed doors already
viewtopic.php?f=239&t=146919&p=3209923&hilit=Kiron#p3209923

another housemate/buddy
viewtopic.php?f=239&t=87952&p=2036328&hilit=Kiron#p2036328

maybe you should only play on the board game with you buddies and housemates and not in a so called standard 8 player game or try a team game with them.
viewtopic.php?f=239&t=103480&p=2346649&hilit=Kiron#p2346649

oh I'm not a hater, i just don't like fish and this smells rather fishy to me.

[BigBallinStalin]

Congrats, Kiron.

[Swimmerdude99]

Kiron, totally deserved this compared to virtually any other conqueror you know. come on.

[mc05025]

Congrats for reaching the top!

Do not expect all people to give you congratulations. Most of them have no clue about what means competitive gameplay. Even if I do not really approve the way you gain the last 500 points I have to say you are one of the best players at flat rate multyplayer games.

I hope you are not mad with me for sayong you are cheating !!!

Have fun and start playing escalating too!

[xiangwang]

Congrats for reaching the top!

Do not expect all people to give you congratulations. Most of them have no clue about what means competitive gameplay. Even if I do not really approve the way you gain the last 500 points I have to say you are one of the best players at flat rate multyplayer games.

I hope you are not mad with me for sayong you are cheating !!!

Have fun and start playing escalating too!

I don't know if you would call that cheating (maybe one game throwing, but let's face it, u benefitted from a game throw too in our game). Wait until I reach conqueror (hopefully under 200 games).

[Funkyterrance]

Too bad you had to smear your reputation in the process. Was it worth it?

[xiangwang]

Too bad you had to smear your reputation in the process. Was it worth it?

What reputation to smear was there? Kiron and I were both known by many players as backstabbers, schemers, and will do anything to win a game through politics and deception (the Art of War). You don't gain a good reputation through that lol. A win's a win, the scoreboard is all that matters to our playing philosophy (you don't care about how pretty you win the war *looks at US nuking Japan* now THATS cheating)

[Mr Changsha]

Too bad you had to smear your reputation in the process. Was it worth it?

What reputation to smear was there? Kiron and I were both known by many players as backstabbers, schemers, and will do anything to win a game through politics and deception (the Art of War). You don't gain a good reputation through that lol. A win's a win, the scoreboard is all that matters to our playing philosophy (you don't care about how pretty you win the war *looks at US nuking Japan* now THATS cheating)

True.

I have considered you a cheat for ages...

[kentington]

Too bad you had to smear your reputation in the process. Was it worth it?

What reputation to smear was there? Kiron and I were both known by many players as backstabbers, schemers, and will do anything to win a game through politics and deception (the Art of War). You don't gain a good reputation through that lol. A win's a win, the scoreboard is all that matters to our playing philosophy (you don't care about how pretty you win the war *looks at US nuking Japan* now THATS cheating)

This is said by the people who want us to take their "word" for it that they weren't cheating. Laughable really. This paragraph will make people think you would do anything to win, such as cheat.
Either you are being honest and are really horrible with words or you are a cheat and not too bright. Like I said the more you post the more we learn. I find it odd that you would continue to argue these points prior to C&A making their decision.

[Qwert]

ok, people these its topic when we are need to congratulation Kiron for conqueror title, these its not for accusation, please move to topic reserved for that.
Now where are we? Ahh yes.
Congratulation Kiron ,deserved you are the best , (applause)

[Kiron]

Too bad you had to smear your reputation in the process. Was it worth it?

What reputation to smear was there? Kiron and I were both known by many players as backstabbers, schemers, and will do anything to win a game through politics and deception (the Art of War). You don't gain a good reputation through that lol. A win's a win, the scoreboard is all that matters to our playing philosophy (you don't care about how pretty you win the war *looks at US nuking Japan* now THATS cheating)

This is said by the people who want us to take their "word" for it that they weren't cheating. Laughable really. This paragraph will make people think you would do anything to win, such as cheat.
Either you are being honest and are really horrible with words or you are a cheat and not too bright. Like I said the more you post the more we learn. I find it odd that you would continue to argue these points prior to C&A making their decision.

There is a large difference between obvious rule breaking cheating outside and inside games and political/diplomatic schemes in game that are within the rules, please note the difference. And this is the wrong thread to flame. Remember if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it

[Lindax]

There is a large difference between obvious rule breaking cheating outside and inside games and political/diplomatic schemes in game that are within the rules, please note the difference. And this is the wrong thread to flame. Remember if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it

Every time you or your buddy open your mouths, the taste in mine gets worse....

You barely manage to post using your own accounts ffs.

[kentington]

Too bad you had to smear your reputation in the process. Was it worth it?

What reputation to smear was there? Kiron and I were both known by many players as backstabbers, schemers, and will do anything to win a game through politics and deception (the Art of War). You don't gain a good reputation through that lol. A win's a win, the scoreboard is all that matters to our playing philosophy (you don't care about how pretty you win the war *looks at US nuking Japan* now THATS cheating)

This is said by the people who want us to take their "word" for it that they weren't cheating. Laughable really. This paragraph will make people think you would do anything to win, such as cheat.
Either you are being honest and are really horrible with words or you are a cheat and not too bright. Like I said the more you post the more we learn. I find it odd that you would continue to argue these points prior to C&A making their decision.

There is a large difference between obvious rule breaking cheating outside and inside games and political/diplomatic schemes in game that are within the rules, please note the difference. And this is the wrong thread to flame. Remember if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it

Point 1. I think everyone here is aware of the difference between diplomatic schemes and your "diplomatic schemes." The main difference is that your scheme starts before the game initializes. Everyone else must wait for the game to start before playing diplomacy.
2. I am not flaming, put in a report if you feel that I am. I will let another mod deal with it. He said in another post that he is bad with words. I am saying either he is a cheater or just really horrible with words, because all of his statements make things worse for him.
3. I am making observations based on what you guys are saying and doing. If it seems like it isn't nice, it is because you don't like what I have to say. I am only pointing out that he is not making the situation better. If he hadn't spoken about this, then half of your problems would have gone away and you would probably have more people believing your story.