As far as I remember I voted him for his lack of credibility. But since we now know he didn't blatantly lie I find it natural to think he may have not BSed us.
Let's go back and see MM's first post under pressure:
Minister Masket wrote:Besides, no matter who's side I am on now. The mafia probably now see me as a threat. So then, Syzygy, F1fth, ga7 and dustn64, what's your real reason for voting me, other than my being "reckless"?
If he just picked random names and roles, why on earth wouldn't he put Dustn and me instead, who were the most dead set against him while Syzygy and F1fth just bandwagonned and laid low? (which was your case also, except you weren't even part of the accusations on him at all if I recall well).
Basically not only he didn't pick his direct accusers, which I really think would have been the first thing he'd have done if he was just lying about the info he got, but he actually picked pretty scummy people (a posteriori). Doesn't sound much like a coincidence and random picking to me...
ga7 wrote:As far as I remember I voted him for his lack of credibility. But since we now know he didn't blatantly lie I find it natural to think he may have not BSed us. Let's go back and see MM's first post under pressure:
Minister Masket wrote:Besides, no matter who's side I am on now. The mafia probably now see me as a threat. So then, Syzygy, F1fth, ga7 and dustn64, what's your real reason for voting me, other than my being "reckless"?
If he just picked random names and roles, why on earth wouldn't he put Dustn and me in his claim instead, who were the most dead set against him while Syzygy and F1fth just bandwagonned and laid low? (which was your case also, except you weren't even part of the accusations on him at all if I recall well).
Basically not only he didn't pick his direct accusers, which I really think would have been the first thing he'd have done if he was just lying about the info he got, but he actually picked pretty scummy people (a posteriori). Doesn't sound much like a coincidence and random picking to me...
I didn't bandwagon against MM. I started the bandwagon before anyone had said anything. I seriously don't know about Syz or Xen, but I know why he put me on that list - I was the one who got him voted out. But if he had accused all people who were for lynching him, don't you think it would have made him seem less credible?
As far as I can tell, he was playing for himself (hence his name in the death note being gray. And since he was immune to nightkills, of course he's going to "ally" with the town. But, he saw that he was likely to get lynched so he picked a few names at random (including me, the first to call him out). If he guess right, he would be the hero. If he guessed wrong, he could have said something along the lines of "my zombie must have lied, because that's exactly what he told me." And how would we know he was lying? Who could question the dead?
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ga7 wrote:As far as I remember I voted him for his lack of credibility. But since we now know he didn't blatantly lie I find it natural to think he may have not BSed us. Let's go back and see MM's first post under pressure:
Minister Masket wrote:Besides, no matter who's side I am on now. The mafia probably now see me as a threat. So then, Syzygy, F1fth, ga7 and dustn64, what's your real reason for voting me, other than my being "reckless"?
If he just picked random names and roles, why on earth wouldn't he put Dustn and me instead, who were the most dead set against him while Syzygy and F1fth just bandwagonned and laid low? (which was your case also, except you weren't even part of the accusations on him at all if I recall well).
Basically not only he didn't pick his direct accusers, which I really think would have been the first thing he'd have done if he was just lying about the info he got, but he actually picked pretty scummy people (a posteriori). Doesn't sound much like a coincidence and random picking to me...
He may not have bsed us to a point.
Maybe he didn't want it to look to obvious, and still look believable. Maybe he know/knew/thought a god father wouldn't come out directly and do the starting accusations against him. Picking the people who started the whole thing on him, would make his story look like he thought of it in 5 minutes. Which by the looks of it, he didn't. He obviously thought it out.
ga7 wrote:As far as I remember I voted him for his lack of credibility. But since we now know he didn't blatantly lie I find it natural to think he may have not BSed us. Let's go back and see MM's first post under pressure:
Minister Masket wrote:Besides, no matter who's side I am on now. The mafia probably now see me as a threat. So then, Syzygy, F1fth, ga7 and dustn64, what's your real reason for voting me, other than my being "reckless"?
If he just picked random names and roles, why on earth wouldn't he put Dustn and me instead, who were the most dead set against him while Syzygy and F1fth just bandwagonned and laid low? (which was your case also, except you weren't even part of the accusations on him at all if I recall well).
Basically not only he didn't pick his direct accusers, which I really think would have been the first thing he'd have done if he was just lying about the info he got, but he actually picked pretty scummy people (a posteriori). Doesn't sound much like a coincidence and random picking to me...
He may not have bsed us to a point.
Maybe he didn't want it to look to obvious, and still look believable. Maybe he know/knew/thought a god father wouldn't come out directly and do the starting accusations against him. Picking the people who started the whole thing on him, would make his story look like he thought of it in 5 minutes. Which by the looks of it, he didn't. He obviously thought it out.
Hmm well you do have a point. Though it'd be overestimating MM more than I would be willing to do. F1fth, I know you were one of the first votes, I didn't mean bandwagon in that way. More like he was the obvious case for day 2... Anyway.
I'll Unvote for now, as this case seems more ambiguous than I initially thought right now. I'll see if rereading helps
Firth, I already PMed Iliad about it but he wouldn't tell me before the game ends, this is a freakish coincidence. My version of the necromancer in this RT was way different, and my original version kinda close to the one of Iliad (except not as extreme as MM told us). I'm kinda bummed, I'll have to create a new role now
Rereading the day, something makes me tick a little...
dustn64 wrote:
life-saver wrote:
Iliad wrote:This night wasn't a s bloody but it was interesting nonetheless. Fircoal studying good magic in his room was so busy he didn't notice the shade behind him. In the moring Fircoal's body was found without a drop of blood in it Fircoal(good mage) is dead.
Some people claimed to hear this during the night: "Get of me! Go away! I don't need you!I have something to do! No! Wait! Stay please stay!" With 15 people alive it takes 8 to lynch!
The mafia scum flash thing had an update. Look at it when you can.
This is weird. I would vote Xen to test it out, but he does have a point. Maybe that was the balancer that Illiad put. If the zombie gave honest answers, that would be WAAAAY overpowered.
Firth, I already PMed Iliad about it but he wouldn't tell me before the game ends, this is a freakish coincidence. My version of the necromancer in this RT was way different, and my original version kinda close to the one of Iliad (except not as extreme as MM told us). I'm kinda bummed, I'll have to create a new role now
That's because MM buffed it up to try to survive the night. Unfortunately he didn't survive the day
Thanks for the info Illiad.
So we have confirmation that MM lied on the bulletproof part at least... All in all I still want to give it a shot.
Vote XC