Gothic Castle Mafia Werewolves win!!

[Iliad]

Xen: (3)) dustn64, ga7, muy thaiguy

[XenCobra]

"Random Roles" is bad wording on my part. What I meant was random as in a Role blocker. He knew to make his story work he needed a God Father.

To those who haven't voted me yet, hear me out.
If you want the game over quickly, fine, here you go:

XenCobra = mafia godfather
Syzygy = mafia roleblocker
F1fth = mafia goon

I'm not saying how I got this information, and I wasn't going to reveal it, but you left me no choice....

5.XenCobra
6.Syzygy
14.F1fth


If you notice I'm first on both lists, along with the God Father role. Then Syz gets the next and so on. Copy and paste anyone?

[ga7]

As far as I remember I voted him for his lack of credibility. But since we now know he didn't blatantly lie I find it natural to think he may have not BSed us.
Let's go back and see MM's first post under pressure:

Besides, no matter who's side I am on now. The mafia probably now see me as a threat. So then, Syzygy, F1fth, ga7 and dustn64, what's your real reason for voting me, other than my being "reckless"?

If he just picked random names and roles, why on earth wouldn't he put Dustn and me instead, who were the most dead set against him while Syzygy and F1fth just bandwagonned and laid low? (which was your case also, except you weren't even part of the accusations on him at all if I recall well).

Basically not only he didn't pick his direct accusers, which I really think would have been the first thing he'd have done if he was just lying about the info he got, but he actually picked pretty scummy people (a posteriori). Doesn't sound much like a coincidence and random picking to me...

[ga7]

As far as I remember I voted him for his lack of credibility. But since we now know he didn't blatantly lie I find it natural to think he may have not BSed us.
Let's go back and see MM's first post under pressure:

Besides, no matter who's side I am on now. The mafia probably now see me as a threat. So then, Syzygy, F1fth, ga7 and dustn64, what's your real reason for voting me, other than my being "reckless"?

If he just picked random names and roles, why on earth wouldn't he put Dustn and me in his claim instead, who were the most dead set against him while Syzygy and F1fth just bandwagonned and laid low? (which was your case also, except you weren't even part of the accusations on him at all if I recall well).

Basically not only he didn't pick his direct accusers, which I really think would have been the first thing he'd have done if he was just lying about the info he got, but he actually picked pretty scummy people (a posteriori). Doesn't sound much like a coincidence and random picking to me...

EBWOP

[F1fth]

I didn't bandwagon against MM. I started the bandwagon before anyone had said anything. I seriously don't know about Syz or Xen, but I know why he put me on that list - I was the one who got him voted out. But if he had accused all people who were for lynching him, don't you think it would have made him seem less credible?

As far as I can tell, he was playing for himself (hence his name in the death note being gray. And since he was immune to nightkills, of course he's going to "ally" with the town. But, he saw that he was likely to get lynched so he picked a few names at random (including me, the first to call him out). If he guess right, he would be the hero. If he guessed wrong, he could have said something along the lines of "my zombie must have lied, because that's exactly what he told me." And how would we know he was lying? Who could question the dead?

[XenCobra]

As far as I remember I voted him for his lack of credibility. But since we now know he didn't blatantly lie I find it natural to think he may have not BSed us.
Let's go back and see MM's first post under pressure:

Besides, no matter who's side I am on now. The mafia probably now see me as a threat. So then, Syzygy, F1fth, ga7 and dustn64, what's your real reason for voting me, other than my being "reckless"?

If he just picked random names and roles, why on earth wouldn't he put Dustn and me instead, who were the most dead set against him while Syzygy and F1fth just bandwagonned and laid low? (which was your case also, except you weren't even part of the accusations on him at all if I recall well).

Basically not only he didn't pick his direct accusers, which I really think would have been the first thing he'd have done if he was just lying about the info he got, but he actually picked pretty scummy people (a posteriori). Doesn't sound much like a coincidence and random picking to me...

He may not have bsed us to a point.


Maybe he didn't want it to look to obvious, and still look believable. Maybe he know/knew/thought a god father wouldn't come out directly and do the starting accusations against him. Picking the people who started the whole thing on him, would make his story look like he thought of it in 5 minutes. Which by the looks of it, he didn't. He obviously thought it out.

[XenCobra]

As far as I remember I voted him for his lack of credibility. But since we now know he didn't blatantly lie I find it natural to think he may have not BSed us.
Let's go back and see MM's first post under pressure:

Besides, no matter who's side I am on now. The mafia probably now see me as a threat. So then, Syzygy, F1fth, ga7 and dustn64, what's your real reason for voting me, other than my being "reckless"?

If he just picked random names and roles, why on earth wouldn't he put Dustn and me instead, who were the most dead set against him while Syzygy and F1fth just bandwagonned and laid low? (which was your case also, except you weren't even part of the accusations on him at all if I recall well).

Basically not only he didn't pick his direct accusers, which I really think would have been the first thing he'd have done if he was just lying about the info he got, but he actually picked pretty scummy people (a posteriori). Doesn't sound much like a coincidence and random picking to me...

He may not have bsed us to a point.


Maybe he didn't want it to look to obvious, and still look believable. Maybe he know/knew/thought a god father wouldn't come out directly and do the starting accusations against him. Picking the people who started the whole thing on him, would make his story look like he thought of it in 5 minutes. Which by the looks of it, he didn't. He obviously thought it out.

[ga7]

Hmm well you do have a point. Though it'd be overestimating MM more than I would be willing to do.
F1fth, I know you were one of the first votes, I didn't mean bandwagon in that way. More like he was the obvious case for day 2... Anyway.
I'll Unvote for now, as this case seems more ambiguous than I initially thought right now. I'll see if rereading helps

[cena-rules]

Ive decided to see if MM was right after all

vote xen

[duday53]

Ya we'll see...

Unvote vote Xen

[XenCobra]

Ive decided to see if MM was right after all

vote xen

Ya we'll see...

Unvote vote Xen

So both of you decided to completely ignore everything that I have said, and not even acknowledged it. That's not one bit suspicious

[firth4eva]

vote ga7

you voted xc even though you know necromancer is neutral.
or according to you it is neutral

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... ecromancer

[Syzygy]

I can't vouch for XC or F1rth, but I know I'm not scum.

MM's claim does however seem very fishy with his use of warlock instead of necromancer...

[ga7]

vote ga7

you voted xc even though you know necromancer is neutral.
or according to you it is neutral

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... ecromancer

Firth, I already PMed Iliad about it but he wouldn't tell me before the game ends, this is a freakish coincidence. My version of the necromancer in this RT was way different, and my original version kinda close to the one of Iliad (except not as extreme as MM told us). I'm kinda bummed, I'll have to create a new role now

[The1exile]

MM claimed warlock, turned out necromancer, and then the good mage gets killed?

If he was doing anything, I would bet it isn't in the towns interests, so I don't buy it.

[firth4eva]

I can't vouch for XC or F1rth, but I know I'm not scum.

MM's claim does however seem very fishy with his use of warlock instead of necromancer...

seriously stop it

he is F1fth i am firth. ok?

and unless i get confirmation from iliad my vote stays

[Syzygy]

I can't vouch for XC or F1rth, but I know I'm not scum.

MM's claim does however seem very fishy with his use of warlock instead of necromancer...

seriously stop it

he is F1fth i am firth. ok?

and unless i get confirmation from iliad my vote stays

Sorry. Your names are too similar. Honest mistake.

[ga7]

Rereading the day, something makes me tick a little...

This night wasn't a s bloody but it was interesting nonetheless.
Fircoal studying good magic in his room was so busy he didn't notice the shade behind him. In the moring Fircoal's body was found without a drop of blood in it
Fircoal(good mage) is dead.

Some people claimed to hear this during the night:
"Get of me! Go away! I don't need you!I have something to do! No! Wait! Stay please stay!"
With 15 people alive it takes 8 to lynch!

Post!

The yellow rat died.

So, is a good mage like a doc then...?

Yea except more powerful.

How do you know that Dustn?

[XGSuperstar]

The mafia scum flash thing had an update. Look at it when you can.

This is weird. I would vote Xen to test it out, but he does have a point. Maybe that was the balancer that Illiad put. If the zombie gave honest answers, that would be WAAAAY overpowered.

[Iliad]

vote ga7

you voted xc even though you know necromancer is neutral.
or according to you it is neutral

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... ecromancer

Firth, I already PMed Iliad about it but he wouldn't tell me before the game ends, this is a freakish coincidence. My version of the necromancer in this RT was way different, and my original version kinda close to the one of Iliad (except not as extreme as MM told us). I'm kinda bummed, I'll have to create a new role now

That's because MM buffed it up to try to survive the night. Unfortunately he didn't survive the day

[Iliad]

I can't vouch for XC or F1rth, but I know I'm not scum.

MM's claim does however seem very fishy with his use of warlock instead of necromancer...

seriously stop it

he is F1fth i am firth. ok?

and unless i get confirmation from iliad my vote stays

Confirmation of what? Necromancer is neutral if that's what you are talking about

[duday53]

There is a whole load of shite going on so Unvote

[ga7]

Thanks for the info Illiad.
So we have confirmation that MM lied on the bulletproof part at least... All in all I still want to give it a shot.
Vote XC

[Iliad]

XenCobra: (4) ga7, cena-rules, dustn, muy_thaiguy
ga7: (1) firth4eva

[muy_thaiguy]

XGS makes a point, unvote.