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Re: This annoys me more than anything in the world!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:13 am
by zebraman
jonesthecurl wrote:OK Target, please tell us where/when there is a democracy according to your definition.
Or go blow a casket.
This has been one of the best threads ever. The amount of grammatical landmines awaiting anyone trying to sift through target's posts ensures an almost 100% casualty rate.
And targetman, that's ensure, not insure.
Re: This annoys me more than anything in the world!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:53 am
by targetman377
jonesthecurl wrote:OK Target, please tell us where/when there is a democracy according to your definition.
Or go blow a casket.
No where

Just kidding i would say some native American tribes used census rule that would be the closest thing to a democracy. Democracy would never work in America there are just too many people.
Re: This annoys me more than anything in the world!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:11 am
by jonesthecurl
See, when people say "that's democracy in action" what they often mean is "despite the USA not fitting Target's warped definition of a 'democracy', the people's voice can sometimes be heard even when they don't get to vote about stuff."
Re: This annoys me more than anything in the world!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:14 am
by targetman377
jonesthecurl wrote:See, when people say "that's democracy in action" what they often mean is "despite the USA not fitting Target's warped definition of a 'democracy', the people's voice can sometimes be heard even when they don't get to vote about stuff."
warped? Wikipedia is warped?
Re: This annoys me more than anything in the world!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:14 am
by Metsfanmax
zebraman wrote:jonesthecurl wrote:OK Target, please tell us where/when there is a democracy according to your definition.
Or go blow a casket.
This has been one of the best threads ever. The amount of grammatical landmines awaiting anyone trying to sift through target's posts ensures an almost 100% casualty rate.
And targetman, that's ensure, not insure.
Both seem to be widely accepted now (unfortunately).
Re: This annoys me more than anything in the world!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:49 pm
by Phatscotty
Symmetry wrote:This is a line (Republic, not a Democracy) that comes up a lot for some Americans. I've not really seen a satisfactory explanation for it- it's not like they're exclusive. Sometimes it looks like a line learned at school at never contemplated, and other times it just looks like the words are being used on completely different terms to those I understand.
I've tried looking for reliable sources, but mostly I seem to get the usual right-wing random ranting blogs. Still, I'll post what I've found from a conservative who I generally like, and find difficult to disagree with even when I'd like to- Eugene Volokh:
Here
Symm, we are a Republic
Re: This annoys me more than anything in the world!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:50 pm
by Symmetry
Phatscotty wrote:Symmetry wrote:This is a line (Republic, not a Democracy) that comes up a lot for some Americans. I've not really seen a satisfactory explanation for it- it's not like they're exclusive. Sometimes it looks like a line learned at school at never contemplated, and other times it just looks like the words are being used on completely different terms to those I understand.
I've tried looking for reliable sources, but mostly I seem to get the usual right-wing random ranting blogs. Still, I'll post what I've found from a conservative who I generally like, and find difficult to disagree with even when I'd like to- Eugene Volokh:
Here
Symm, we are a Republic
That's not an explanation. It's a title. You'll have to do a bit better if you want it to be more than just a name. Personally I think the US is both a democracy and a republic. I don't see the either/or choice that targetman demands.
Re: This annoys me more than anything in the world!!!
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:13 pm
by Woodruff
targetman377 wrote:jonesthecurl wrote:See, when people say "that's democracy in action" what they often mean is "despite the USA not fitting Target's warped definition of a 'democracy', the people's voice can sometimes be heard even when they don't get to vote about stuff."
warped? Wikipedia is warped?
How much do you really understand about how Wikipedia works?