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Postby Chris7He on Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:32 pm

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Postby mybike_yourface on Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:45 pm

ironic. i hope he learned his leason about americanism and our caste system.
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Postby graeme89 on Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:46 pm

Considering how difficult and expensive it is to be a Legal immigrant I think amnesty is so unfair its not real. My wife is an immigrant to UK and so far it has cost us thousands, with more to come. Courses, exams, piles of documents, interviews. So if there is amnesty the illegals should have to go through the same process and same application fee.
The UK govt is punishing those who go through the proper channels to pay for their bumbling fiasco on border control.
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Postby Chris7He on Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:57 pm

I think we need to be open minded and let immigrants come in to the US for free, no exams, just a check on criminal backgrounds and maybe an extra tax or not providing them services and support that a regular citizen would get (sorry if it's xenophobic).
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Postby mybike_yourface on Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:06 pm

Chris7He wrote:I think we need to be open minded and let immigrants come in to the US for free, no exams, just a check on criminal backgrounds and maybe an extra tax or not providing them services and support that a regular citizen would get (sorry if it's xenophobic).


well here in the southwest and AZ where i am it we pretty much already do that. they pay taxes and get no legal services other than some basic stuff like not being turned away from emegency rooms. we need illegals to do labor citizens won't do. the cops and sharif Joe Arpio are starting to get nuts and are busting illegal mexicans. it's starting to mess with the economy in a lot of states including ours. i'm pretty sure we'll see the anti-illegal immigrant hysteria die down as construction and other industries take a hit across the west and the U.S. in general.
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Postby edwinissweet on Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:09 pm

If any of you that say that all illigals should be sent to jail have any latino friends you should know that atleast half of them are Illegal. Hispanic people arent the only alliens in the country, you people are just racist. what he did was illegal but he did it to help himself and whats more importantly OTHERS arround him. What if your house was getting robbed and a illgal cop showed up to save you? would you tell him to get the hell out of your house and go back to where ever he came from or would you see him as what he truly is? a person just trying to better himself while helping what he sees as his country.

how can we honestly say that this is the land of the free if we put people in jail that do good to our community. :D
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Postby Chris7He on Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:12 pm

Why are we arresting TRUE Americans?
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Postby mybike_yourface on Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:17 pm

edwinissweet wrote:If any of you that say that all illigals should be sent to jail have any latino friends you should know that atleast half of them are Illegal. Hispanic people arent the only alliens in the country, you people are just racist. what he did was illegal but he did it to help himself and whats more importantly OTHERS arround him. What if your house was getting robbed and a illgal cop showed up to save you? would you tell him to get the hell out of your house and go back to where ever he came from or would you see him as what he truly is? a person just trying to better himself while helping what he sees as his country.

how can we honestly say that this is the land of the free if we put people in jail that do good to our community. :D


which people are racist? we all know there's lots of illegals who aren't latino. the point is that they're targeting latinos.
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Postby Chris7He on Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:19 pm

You don't see any Canadians coming into the country and it's not like a guy from Russia is going to get on a speedboat into America. That's why it's being generalized as Latino. It's 99.9 percent Latino.
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Postby edwinissweet on Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:26 pm

thats crap. wat about asians? i even know a few european people who arent legal.
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Postby Chris7He on Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:28 pm

Yep. We import a lot of illegal immigrants to run our countries (forgot to mention). I know of many places in my predominantly white neighborhood that have illegal immigrants to run the restaraunts (through my mom).
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Postby edwinissweet on Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:28 pm

why does america focus on iraq and making life better for them. we atleast get along with mexicans and watnot
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Postby Chris7He on Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:31 pm

America is fucked up. That's why.
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Postby edwinissweet on Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:34 pm

yea, but atleast the sex is good :D
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Postby Chris7He on Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:38 pm

That was messed up.
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Postby NaynNay on Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:01 pm

closed borders, idc personally, because americans aren't going to canada yet ^_^
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Postby mybike_yourface on Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:33 pm

Chris7He wrote:You don't see any Canadians coming into the country and it's not like a guy from Russia is going to get on a speedboat into America. That's why it's being generalized as Latino. It's 99.9 percent Latino.

there was just an NPR show about ilegal chinese coming into the US. they have their own neighborhood in NY and work all over the NE and midwest. there is actually all kinds of folks who work here illegally. there's a lot of latinos no doubt but there's more folks who aren't than many people realizel.
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Postby Chris7He on Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:34 pm

mybike_yourface wrote:
Chris7He wrote:You don't see any Canadians coming into the country and it's not like a guy from Russia is going to get on a speedboat into America. That's why it's being generalized as Latino. It's 99.9 percent Latino.

there was just an NPR show about ilegal chinese coming into the US. they have their own neighborhood in NY and work all over the NE and midwest. there is actually all kinds of folks who work here illegally. there's a lot of latinos no doubt but there's more folks who aren't than many people realizel.


Sorry I forgot.
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Postby Carebian Knight on Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:55 pm

The main thing that is making illegals come here, is that it takes so long to get here legally, that is because the U.S. has a quota that isn't allowed to be broken, something like 650,000 a year. If we did away with the quota, illegal immigration would slow quite a bit, only the lazy people would still be illegal.

My solution: Do away with the quota and make the naturalization process shorter. Simple but effective.

PS: There has already been a topic about this that I argued on, so I'm somewhat experienced with this arguement.
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Postby Carebian Knight on Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:58 pm

The 3 people who have voted for deportation need to realize what that means. There are approx. 11 million illegal latinos, I don't know about the others, that means a lot of money spent to deport them, then our economy would probably hit some rough stages or crumble altogether. That means catastrophe.
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Postby samuelchin1996 on Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:03 am

America is focusing on Iraq because of oil.
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Postby edwinissweet on Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:48 am

samuelchin1996 wrote:America is focusing on Iraq because of oil.


mexico has as much oil as the middle east
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Postby mybike_yourface on Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:20 am

oil is all over. it's a matter of motive
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Postby NaynNay on Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:02 am

edwinissweet wrote:
samuelchin1996 wrote:America is focusing on Iraq because of oil.


mexico has as much oil as the middle east


lol. mexico oil reserves = ooo
middle east oil reserves = ooooooooooooooooooooooo

ALOT more in the Middle East than Mexico ;)
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Postby Stopper on Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:43 am

Carebian Knight wrote:The main thing that is making illegals come here, is that it takes so long to get here legally, that is because the U.S. has a quota that isn't allowed to be broken, something like 650,000 a year. If we did away with the quota, illegal immigration would slow quite a bit, only the lazy people would still be illegal.

My solution: Do away with the quota and make the naturalization process shorter. Simple but effective.


I have this suspicion that you're seriously mistaken if you really believe that the loudest opponents of illegal immigration, eg the likes of xtratabasco, only object to illegal immigrants.
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