What's the greatest tragedy in history?

[Caleb the Cruel]

1 Peter 2:9
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.


I went to a large Lutheran event in Florida for several days that talked about how we are CHOSEN: CHOSEN by God, CHOSEN with Others, and CHSOEN to the World.

So who's Chosen, is it those who are Christian or only Lutherans?

I say all true Christians are CHOSEN, not just Lutherans. My definition of a Christian is anybody who believes in God and what He did for us.

John 3:18 ESV
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

[RobinJ]

The Big bang and evolution theories have more proof than creationism will ever have.

Kaboom! Yeah, that's proof. Nobody can prove the cause of the beginning of the universe because no one was around to observe it.

Actually it can be almost proved. Scientists detected that light coming from other galaxies was always shifted towards the red end of the spectrum and the longer wavelength of red light means that they are moving away from us and are also accelerating away. (Dopplar effect). An explosion would cause such an effect. The scientists then reasoned that background radiation of about 3 Kelvin should still be around if such an almighty explosion ever took place. This was also detected and so the Big Bang is the most likely theory for creation.

Nevertheless, I still believe in God and that he was responsible for the Big Bang and creation as a whole. I believe that the opening chapters of Genesis are figurative for God creating the Universe via the Big Bang

[radiojake]

1 Peter 2:9
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.


I went to a large Lutheran event in Florida for several days that talked about how we are CHOSEN: CHOSEN by God, CHOSEN with Others, and CHSOEN to the World.

So who's Chosen, is it those who are Christian or only Lutherans?

I say all true Christians are CHOSEN, not just Lutherans. My definition of a Christian is anybody who believes in God and what He did for us.

John 3:18 ESV
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

Please don't use bible quotes as evidence... they are hardly a reliable source

What I find funniest about religion is the massive amount of religions and sects - all thinking they're theory is correct. But there is so many different ones, which is almost proof to me that they're all misleading. I don't have a theory of how I think the world started, I don't think it really matters at all.

Also, this thread wasn't about religion... take it back to the other thread

To reinterate - Capitalism is the greatest tragedy

[muy_thaiguy]

1 Peter 2:9
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.


I went to a large Lutheran event in Florida for several days that talked about how we are CHOSEN: CHOSEN by God, CHOSEN with Others, and CHSOEN to the World.

So who's Chosen, is it those who are Christian or only Lutherans?

I say all true Christians are CHOSEN, not just Lutherans. My definition of a Christian is anybody who believes in God and what He did for us.

John 3:18 ESV
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

Please don't use bible quotes as evidence... they are hardly a reliable source

What I find funniest about religion is the massive amount of religions and sects - all thinking they're theory is correct. But there is so many different ones, which is almost proof to me that they're all misleading. I don't have a theory of how I think the world started, I don't think it really matters at all.

Also, this thread wasn't about religion... take it back to the other thread

To reinterate - Capitalism is the greatest tragedy

Let's just agree to disagree, shall we?

[radiojake]

Let's just agree to disagree, shall we?

Haha, hey I agree with you there.. it's funny that this is normally how threads end --

also i didn't really want the thread going into a religious debate

[Honibaz]

So is someone trying to say that the destruction of Christianity or Catholic would be a tragedy?

Honibaz

[muy_thaiguy]

So is someone trying to say that the destruction of Christianity of Catholic would be a tragedy?

Honibaz

Next time, just say 'The Roman Catholic Church.' What you said needs to be fixed to Catholicism, and yes, to Roman Catholics, it would be a great tragedy.

[OnlyAmbrose]

Pope Benedict put it nicely, in regards to creationism and evolutionism.

“They are presented as alternatives that exclude each other,” the Pope said.

“This clash is an absurdity because on one hand there is much scientific proof in favour of evolution, which appears as a reality that we must see and which enriches our understanding of life and being as such.”

But he said evolution did not answer all the questions and could not exclude a role by God.

“Above all it does not answer the great philosophical question 'where does everything come from?'“

As to my own thoughts on said philosophical question, please see the agnostic thread.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23812&highlight=

As a side note, the Big Bang doesn't explain where everything came from either. Again, see the above thread.

[Requim For A Win]

Africa right now

#1Blood diamonds .

#2Tribes who used to fight with spears and had at most 10 casualtys a year to when western civilization gave them guns the toll goes to one tribe gets completley obliterated. Becuase we thought it would be fun to see how they used them mso we are to blame for this

#3 aids

#4 mass hunger

#5 poverty

so africa is a giant hell hole and its in present time...

[Neutrino]

Who created the junk that set off the Big Bang?

Pure chance, outside influence, almost anything. I posted my thoughts on the matter in the Agnostic Thread, but, unfortunatly, they were never replied to

Anyway, as I said before, if you want to discuss religion, take it to the Christianity Thread.
I'm supprised this hasn't been locked already.

As it is, I do, in fact, lean slightly towards to Communist side of the spectrum, but, in my opinion anyway, I have always been reasonably vocal in my opposition to a pure, (though actually not very pure) China/USSR version of Communism. That system of government, although called Communism was, in reality, just a (super) Capitalist Dictatorship. It may have called itself whatever it wanted, but there is no denying what it actually was.

How did you arrive at your current beliefs?

I knew there was something I missed on my replying rounds

The point of life is freedom, yes? Therefore, a life without freedom is a wasted life. A life spent doing what a government, or even just another human bieng is essentially a wasted one, because that person had no chance to make his/her own decisions.

That is a very, very brief summary.

[Jehan]

its a tragedy when people believe what they experience and what they know is all that is(apart from being massively illogical), its a tragedy when people think only about themselves, and never about others, its a tragedy when people choose to close their minds.

[Honibaz]

its a tragedy when people believe what they experience and what they know is all that is(apart from being massively illogical), its a tragedy when people think only about themselves, and never about others, its a tragedy when people choose to close their minds.

It's a tragedy when humans only care about making money.

Honibaz

[Skittles!]

It's a tragedy that people only think of the human race.

[Honibaz]

It's a tragedy that people only think of the human race.

I'm not offending you, but are you an environmentalist?

Honibaz

[Skittles!]

It's a tragedy that people only think of the human race.

I'm not offending you, but are you an environmentalist?

Honibaz

I know I should know what that means, but I'm forgetting it at the moment, but if it means that I think it's a pity for what humanity has done to the enviroment and everything, then yes. I hate the human race for everything it's done.

[Honibaz]

It's a tragedy that people only think of the human race.

I'm not offending you, but are you an environmentalist?

Honibaz

I know I should know what that means, but I'm forgetting it at the moment, but if it means that I think it's a pity for what humanity has done to the enviroment and everything, then yes. I hate the human race for everything it's done.

It's nice to see that someone in Conquer Club does care about nature since most people fail to acknowledge the good side of it.

Honibaz

[Caleb the Cruel]

It's a tragedy that people believe in global warming when 30 years ago everyone was worried about global cooling which was "caused" by the same things that "cause" global warming.

Note: My mind is not made up about global warming, it's just funny how we went from worrying about the next Ice Age to worrying about the Ice Caps melting in a matter of 30 years. Not to mention they are both blamed on the same thing, greenhouse gases.

[mandalorian2298]

Croatia-France in the Semi Final of WC '98. Did Thuram score ANY goals for France before or after that match!?

[The Kurgan]

When <some of the> Catholics started to indoctrinate the young.

[luns101]

It's a tragedy that people believe in global warming when 30 years ago everyone was worried about global cooling which was "caused" by the same things that "cause" global warming.

Don't worry, global cooling will eventually make a comeback. When it does though, all capitalist countries will still be blamed for causing it.

[sam_levi_11]

LOL MANDY, I REMEMBER THAT MATCH, even if i was only 8 or so lol...funny game.

and i still think its diddle being born

HEY DIDDLE, HOW WAS THE OP. TO GET RID OF YOUR WEBS?

[mandalorian2298]

LOL MANDY, I REMEMBER THAT MATCH, even if i was only 8 or so lol...funny game.

and i still think its diddle being born

HEY DIDDLE, HOW WAS THE OP. TO GET RID OF YOUR WEBS?

Funny?! Our best player (Boban) and Jarni pass two balls to the guy WHO NEVER BEFORE SCORED FOR HIS NATIONAL TEAM and it cost's us the Final. It was the best team that Croatia ever had.

[sam_levi_11]

france deserved to win, however you were next, if it werent for france i think croatia would have won the world cup that year...soo unlucky- i was cheering for u cos i dont like the french, being an arsenal fan i should do but i only like the players who have played for arsenal.

but not "the flying bald disaster"(cygan) or "le sulk"(anelka)

[mandalorian2298]

france deserved to win, however you were next, if it werent for france i think croatia would have won the world cup that year...soo unlucky- i was cheering for u cos i dont like the french, being an arsenal fan i should do but i only like the players who have played for arsenal.

but not "the flying bald disaster"(cygan) or "le sulk"(anelka)

Thanks. And lol at your bad luck not to like French while supporting Arsenal. Now, give me back Eduardo da Silva and we can part as friends.

[sam_levi_11]

no can do, eduardo is already showing his class. oh and guess which match i remember most from france '98. yup it was that one