mookiemcgee wrote: Mon Dec 15, 2025 9:30 pm
The affordable care act is 15 years old this year, that's probably why the republicans are trying to f*ck it...give it 3 more years and they will lose interest
The ACA is a terribly designed plan that did NOTHING to make health care more affordable$$, just gave a relatively few people** another subsidized government handout. YEAH, **20 million is NOT A few, but in a nation of 330+ Million, it is relatively small.
$$ Another Dem misnomer; typical of Liberal Dems LIES and Obfuscation.
The Liberal Dems "financed it" via the ONLY means they know: MORE Debt and thus spending MORE MONEY they do not have. They offer no real means of paying for it, other than printing more MONEY. SURE, we can "afford it" BUT TELL ME what you are willing to CUT OUT to PAY for it. From the Dems, NOTHING, just more silly rhetoric and cry baby Liberal tears.
Did Obamacare Control Costs?
Despite the significant increase in coverage, controlling costs has remained a challenge. While premium growth slowed compared to pre-Obamacare trends, costs still rose significantly for many Americans.
Premiums Increased by 63% for Employer Plans
In 2010, the average annual premium for a family employer-sponsored plan was $13,770. By 2023, it had risen to $22,463, an increase of 63%.
Although premium growth slowed compared to the early 2000s, many middle-class families who didn’t qualify for subsidies felt the pinch.
Deductibles Increased by 67%
High-deductible health plans (HDHPs) became more common post-Obamacare, with the average deductible for employer-sponsored plans rising from $1,000 in 2010 to $1,680 in 2023, a 67% increase.
Out-of-Pocket Costs Remain High
ACA marketplace plans often come with higher deductibles and out-of-pocket costs compared to employer-sponsored insurance.
In 2023, the average deductible for a silver-tier ACA plan was $4,500, making it difficult for many households to afford routine care.
Failures
Rising Premiums and Deductibles: While Obamacare slowed premium growth, costs still rose significantly, particularly for middle-class families.
High Administrative Costs: The complexity of ACA compliance increased administrative costs for insurers and providers.
Limited Competition: Several insurers exited ACA marketplaces between 2015 and 2018, reducing competition and choice in many areas.
https://www.facts-vs-fiction.com/blog/a ... lp-or-hurt
Sources......FOR ABOVE quote
Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS): National Health Expenditure Data
Kaiser Family Foundation: Employer Health Benefits Survey
Congressional Budget Office: Federal Spending Report
Harvard Medical School: Medical Bankruptcy Study
National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER): Medicaid Expansion Study
I must have hit a RAW Nerve; Mookie's only real response is to JUST "f*ck it." Well Done, Mookie (in TWO threads tonights). Great attitude and Great Refutation:
NOT.
quote=mookiemcgee
Californias voted for this so go f*ck yourself!