Looking for good free-speech forums and contrarian content c

[zen330]

Not sure if this site qualifies or not, but I’m looking for as many free speech (ideally no censorship outside of extreme trolls/haters and illegal content & porn) as people can suggest outside of reddit or niche forums (for example gardening or cars, etc.). Ideally offering anonymous posting or at least posting with only an email signup.

On the contrarian content I’m putting it out there, if the site isn’t against it I may even post some “content creators” and/or ideas of my own that fit the bill.

[zen330]

(Accidental double post, can’t see how to delete but if a moderator wants to that’s fine with me)

[Pack Rat]

[zen330]

AI mashups (so I assume) aren’t really what I meant by contrarian.

Along those lines though people wanting some strong critiques of AI might look into cognitive scientist and professor John Vervaeke (see also his online lecture series on youtube), and tech millionaire Jordan Hall (also with a ton of good podcast appearances on youtube).

Edit: Am I correct in assuming that this site doesn’t notify people of new replies to their posts in this forum, or if it does then how?

[DirtyDishSoap]

You can bookmark a thread to see if you get a response.

I don't think you'll find any forum or website that is "free speech." Most web sites or forums are privately owned. That said, this forum is pretty laxed on alot of things short of what you mentioned and racism.

General rule of thumb - Keep it professional, funny, on topic, etc and you can pretty much say whatever you want.

[KoolBak]

You CAN get notifications of posts in threads you follow. I do in our xi private forum. I certainly don't here And it's been so long, I don't recall how I set it.

Go ask a mod / look in help / make a help request ticket

[zen330]

@DirtyDishSoap (does putting the @+name notify people of comment replies here?):

Thanks, glad to hear about the site being relatively non-censorious. Regarding your quote and as a test of sorts (I was shadowbanned from a chess site for relaying this) you and others might be interested in the idea that many serious diseases like cancer, diabetes, heart disease, and dementia are primarily/in most cases due to metabolic dysfunction, and that fasting or intermittent fasting/time-restricted eating can cure the dysfunction and the related diseases.

@Koolbak: Thanks, found the notification checkbox under the advanced (not quick edit) comment edit feature.

[KoolBak]

Dementia killed my beautiful mother horribly.

Your platitudinous blathering does not interest me at all, and in fact I find it personally extremely offensive.

Fasting would NOT have kept her brain from disintegrating. If it would have, it would be a fucking fact, not a conspiracy touted by a noob on a gaming site. f*ck me running

Ain't free speech grand?

Thanks for asking.

[zen330]

Sorry to hear about your mother. Dementia pretty much killed my grandmother and might have been on its way to killing an even closer family member before medical malpractice did rather recently.

Between my “heretical” view on the topic (backed up by numerous MDs and others for those interested, for example see the Low Carb Down Under conference/youtube channel and others like Dr. Ken Berry MD, Dr. Eric Berg, Dr. Shawn Baker MD, and most likely Dr. Paul Saladino MD and Dr. Anthony Chaffee MD) and your rather impolite reply I will consider this a good test of the forum as a free speech-friendly site.

I won’t explain the theory further unless someone else asks as I’m not looking to provoke hostilities. Didn’t mean to trigger yourself nor anyone else here.

[Dukasaur]

Sorry to hear about your mother. Dementia pretty much killed my grandmother and might have been on its way to killing an even closer family member before medical malpractice did rather recently.

Between my “heretical” view on the topic (backed up by numerous MDs and others for those interested, for example see the Low Carb Down Under conference/youtube channel and others like Dr. Ken Berry MD, Dr. Eric Berg, Dr. Shawn Baker MD, and most likely Dr. Paul Saladino MD and Dr. Anthony Chaffee MD) and your rather impolite reply I will consider this a good test of the forum as a free speech-friendly site.

I won’t explain the theory further unless someone else asks as I’m not looking to provoke hostilities. Didn’t mean to trigger yourself nor anyone else here.

I actually don't disagree with you, at least not completely. I'm a big believer in living low carb. Nonetheless, just like everything else, there are people who overstate the case. It's true that running high sugar is a risk factor for numerous diseases including cancer and the other big-name killers. It's not true that you can eliminate all cancers simply with a clean low-carb diet. Genetics do matter. Environmental pollutants that you can't detect or avoid do matter. Pure random chance does matter.

I'm totally on your side with regards to getting people off carbs and especially refined sugar. But when you oversell the case and claim that we can avoid all cancers, cardiovascular diseases, alzheimer's etc., etc., you're actually doing more harm than good. You make people think you're a fanatic and they will tune you out.

I don't watch the Down Under conferences, but I used to. Then one day, I was watching a lecture by Paul Mason, and I caught him in a very obvious lie. Other people obviously didn't, because his audience continued to follow with great enthusiasm, but I caught it, and it soured me. I knew it wasn't just an innocent error; Mason is super-smart and knew he was being untruthful. It's amazing how soon after that I started tuning him out completely.

Real scientists rarely develop a big following, and unfortunately their own honesty is the main reason why. They don't make grand sweeping statements. They make guarded statements, that there is a tendency to see a better range of blood pressure outcomes (for instance) among people with low blood sugar, not that keeping low blood sugar will magically make all hypertension go away. This kind of statement is good and accurate science, but it's lousy for headlines and building a Youtube following.

[KoolBak]

Fine.

My mother ate and cooked extremely healthily for her entire life. A luxury / benefit of growing up the way she did.

It's why she, my father and all 4 of her children have never been overweight and generally healthy.

Didn't mean shit to her.

Did t mean shit to my lifelong (since I was 6 and they discovered it) hypertension level blood pressure that doctors simply can't manage and no amount of exercise / diet / whatever can fix. I am NOT looking for suggestions. I've heard them all. I'm stating fucking facts.

Eating well also didn't help my brother in law that died horribly from ALS at age 30. Another medical condition that baffles us.

Eating cardboard and praying to aliens ain't gonna change reality, people.

[DirtyDishSoap]

@DirtyDishSoap (does putting the @+name notify people of comment replies here?):

Thanks, glad to hear about the site being relatively non-censorious. Regarding your quote and as a test of sorts (I was shadowbanned from a chess site for relaying this) you and others might be interested in the idea that many serious diseases like cancer, diabetes, heart disease, and dementia are primarily/in most cases due to metabolic dysfunction, and that fasting or intermittent fasting/time-restricted eating can cure the dysfunction and the related diseases.

@Koolbak: Thanks, found the notification checkbox under the advanced (not quick edit) comment edit feature.

I mean... I'd have a hard time believing you were shadow banned unless you're linking to a site that's dubious. That's not so much free speech, just a protection against possible fraudulent practices. I'd rather not share details about how ugly some of those diseases can be, but not eating or short portions just seems like the typical "alt" science that's been proven wrong in most cases.

[zen330]

But when you oversell the case and claim that we can avoid all cancers, cardiovascular diseases, alzheimer's etc., etc., you're actually doing more harm than good. You make people think you're a fanatic and they will tune you out...

.. This kind of statement is good and accurate science, but it's lousy for headlines and building a Youtube following.

To be clear my comment was "you and others might be interested in the idea that many serious diseases like cancer, diabetes, heart disease, and dementia are primarily/in most cases due to metabolic dysfunction, and that fasting or intermittent fasting/time-restricted eating can cure the dysfunction and the related diseases”

I did not say that we can avoid all cancers, etc. by such means nor AFAIK have the people I relayed in my comment. I agree that various toxins (including via allopathic medicines) can be a significant factor, as can things like emotional trauma and a negative mindset and even karma IMO. Even if metabolic dysfunction is only responsible or even one of a few main contributors for a relatively small percentage of the issues relayed it is something that should be widely shared I would think.

With trillions spent on the allopathic/pharma model and widely decreasing health outcomes (small life expectancy increases mean little to nothing if one is in serious pain or other dysfunction on ones later years/decades, and in any case these increases have apparently reversed in the past few years in places like the UK and Canada) I think looking for alternatives is absolutely appropriate.

[zen330]

I mean... I'd have a hard time believing you were shadow banned unless you're linking to a site that's dubious. That's not so much free speech, just a protection against possible fraudulent practices. I'd rather not share details about how ugly some of those diseases can be, but not eating or short portions just seems like the typical "alt" science that's been proven wrong in most cases.

I assure you I was shadow-banned there (lichess.org btw) without linking any shady sites, and remain so to this very day on that same account (which I won’t name here). Lots of censorship and other nonsense on various online forums these days, to the extent that finding one that isn’t heavily biased or censorious and has a decent userbase is a rare and pleasant find (kudos to the mods & admin here for bucking the trend).

As for the fasting topic I forgot one name in my mini-list, Dr. Jason Fung MD who runs a clinic with reported great success in treating/resolving various health issues (mostly diabetes/obesity IIRC) and who has a ton of good videos on youtube explaining how fasting works to restore health.

Related, “the father of western medicine” Hippocrates was a big fan of fasting as were various long-lasting ancient cultures, and animals in nature tend to fast when sick or injured to restore health, so that implies something I think. And from a personal standpoint I have used intermittent fasting over time to quite positive effect, with one result being my body naturally putting on 15 pounds of muscle without working out after the metabolic issue was consequently resolved (prior to this I had been underweight for my entire pubescent/adult life).

[KoolBak]

Post a real study where you magically cure dementia.

Then opine about fairies and unicorns.

You obviously have information the rest of the world lacks.

[Dukasaur]

Post a real study where you magically cure dementia.

No magical cure yet, but there is at least some evidence that controlling blood sugar can help control Alzheimers.

Here's a study from a fairly reputable source:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7246646/

It starts thus:

The exact connection between Alzheimer’s disease (AD) and type 2 diabetes is still in debate. However, poorly controlled blood sugar may increase the risk of developing Alzheimer’s. This relationship is so strong that some have called Alzheimer’s “diabetes of the brain” or “type 3 diabetes (T3D)”.

About 6 pages of complex analysis which I won't bother plagiarizing, but if you're interested, it's worth a read.

It concludes:

The relationship between T3DM and AD is based on the fact that both the processing of AβPP and the clearance of Aβ are attributed to impaired insulin signaling in the brain
(...)
While the specific mechanisms between AD and all forms of diabetes remain convoluted and unclear, which subsequently may have devastating socioeconomic impacts on public health and healthcare systems, T3D has the potential to provide a plethora of proactive and therapeutic strategies to current patients. For now, it seems that the testing of more anti-T3D drugs with beneficial effects against cognitive impairment has a certain promising future.

[KoolBak]

Promising. That's great.

Funny, my mom had none of those health issues

[Dukasaur]

Sorry about your mom, KB. Alzheimer's is a tough way to go.

There are no magic bullets, but for most of us, we're just playing the odds. You can do all the right things and still roll snake eyes, but the odds get a little better.

[HitRed]

Heard when my mother-in-law got dementia.

She will go deeper into herself. - God

[KoolBak]

Thanks DoD