[OFFICIAL] Charle's Fun Mafia - "Game On" Day 4

[Devante]

That's one... and I got many. Sonic left many breadcrumbs and unless. there's a mafia role that throws loose offside I think this is straight forward. I won't vote yet given the tight dynamics but yet again, this is twice now, Devon.....DEVON......unvote....UNVOTE.....What Looose has stated is correct, unvote and we do this lynch as a plan without giving scum a chance to get a jump on us, fairly simply right townie

[Devante]

Now with that said, there is no rush, and I think I have a goood idea on things here, so going to reread the forum and just make sure I didn't mistake anything. Loose; Sonics posts are key, but only to a degree, especially towards the end. Just in case something happens to me during the day watch that and analyze. I will say this now. If by chance you are not town, WP. But for you not to be would have been a mafia redirect with a reassigning role, so no. Take your time day just started and review what has been said. That is the key. And again Day just started so there is no rudh and I think given the status right now trying to get level 1 or 2 is not worth

[Devante]

Doing it verbally as LC suggested

Again I'll state thius.


DEVON, UNOTE NOW............I AM HITTING HIS WALL FYI

[Devon99]

Unvote

[Kingm]

Hmm, dev, you are always key at the end, your logic and reading through the BS skills are very often spot on I have seen in earlier games.

So if you are scum, then WP, but right now I trust you almost as much as LC

This is my thoughts: Towns = LC, dev and me (3 vanilla boys)
Chana, Devon = Mafia
Max = SK

but I have a hard time seeing who is mafia and who is SK, but I think Chana, Devon and Max is the 3 remaining scum, but not 100%, more like 90% I would probably say.

LC ask us to tell who we would vote for, and I just do not know, if I can't solve it, I will follow LC to the grave, lets hope he hits better then on D2 (but I was there with you, so I was also fooled)

[Devon99]

No need to panic, I'm not continuously staring at the thread but it is a Sunday so it will be checking in more than usual. It will be a bit harder come tomorrow though. I'll try at least once per day to check during the week.

[Devon99]

but I have a hard time seeing who is mafia and who is SK, but I think Chana, Devon and Max is the 3 remaining scum, but not 100%, more like 90% I would probably say.

Guys this is absolute cock and bull. 90%, where an earth did you pull those maths from???

I won't be drawn and respond with a childish vote, but you're wrong and you need to buy a new calculator.

[Kingm]

but I have a hard time seeing who is mafia and who is SK, but I think Chana, Devon and Max is the 3 remaining scum, but not 100%, more like 90% I would probably say.

Guys this is absolute cock and bull. 90%, where an earth did you pull those maths from???

I won't be drawn and respond with a childish vote, but you're wrong and you need to buy a new calculator.

Those maths are just from my ass, lol
Its just me giving a number of how certain I am of something.

[Devon99]

I admire your honesty, could of claimed AI worked it out for you :p

[Kingm]

I admire your honesty, could of claimed AI worked it out for you :p

AI is against the rules, we learnt that in D1, and that's partly the reason I am in this game, since I got substituted in.

PS. Sonic I know if you wore alive, you would be here saying that I was that and that because of DDS blowing a casket, but DDS just had integrity for the game, and you wore a scum trying to use that for all it was worth to try and lynch a townie, and then say "ooops I guess I was wrong, never lisson to AI".
Yeah that sounds like something SoN!c would say

[SoN!c]

I admire your honesty, could of claimed AI worked it out for you :p

AI is against the rules, we learnt that in D1, and that's partly the reason I am in this game, since I got substituted in.

PS. Sonic I know if you wore alive, you would be here saying that I was that and that because of DDS blowing a casket, but DDS just had integrity for the game, and you wore a scum trying to use that for all it was worth to try and lynch a townie, and then say "ooops I guess I was wrong, never lisson to AI".
Yeah that sounds like something SoN!c would say

[Devante]

Sonic please refrain from posting further as you’re dead now. Max what say you to all this. Time to step out of the shadows and stop coasting.

Devon, Chana and king; which way are you guys leaning, are we dealing with two mafia left or two mafia and a SK?

[Devon99]

I think it's two mafia and an SK, I have very limited expereince and could be wrong but when you think about does it make much difference. Surely either way we need to find and lynch a mafia, so focus on finding them right?

[Devon99]

Also that's me done for the evening, I'll check back in the morning.

[Loose Canon]

Lets just consider what can be deduced from a no lynch D4, because I think this should be weighed up against a lynch of max.

From a SK perspective he would have to make the working assumption that mafia kills town because he has lost anyway if mafia kills him.
If he kills town too he would go 2M 1SK 1T (or 2T if he killed same town as mafia did)
If he killed mafia he would go 1M 1SK 2T

In a 2M 1SK 1T scenario theres no lynch D5 - mafia ensure that
If N5 mafia kill SK they win
If N5 mafia kill Town then a draw between Mafia and SK

Therefore I THINK (and I emphasise thiink) SK would try to kill Mafia N4 in the scenario that we go no lynch D4.

???

[Kingm]

Lets just consider what can be deduced from a no lynch D4, because I think this should be weighed up against a lynch of max.

From a SK perspective he would have to make the working assumption that mafia kills town because he has lost anyway if mafia kills him.
If he kills town too he would go 2M 1SK 1T (or 2T if he killed same town as mafia did)
If he killed mafia he would go 1M 1SK 2T

In a 2M 1SK 1T scenario theres no lynch D5 - mafia ensure that
If N5 mafia kill SK they win
If N5 mafia kill Town then a draw between Mafia and SK

Therefore I THINK (and I emphasise thiink) SK would try to kill Mafia N4 in the scenario that we go no lynch D4.

Great post, got my head thinking a bit, did not even think of no lynch, and I think no lynch is what gives us best odds?

Could you run the same logic on SK lynch and Mafia lynch?
No point in doing a town lynch, probably not SK either because then mafia kills a town and its 2-2 and just mafia win right?

So yeah only mafia lynch, is that better or worse then no lynch?

And I just think we have to assume its 3T 2M 1S, because that the most likely right? hmm


???

[Loose Canon]

Did Sonic ever really try to steer us towards trying to lynch max?

Because if he didn't that's evidence max is mafia.

[chanakam2020]

Last two days did not have time to come and read stuffs here due to real life things, and then was bit busy with preparing October Monthly challenge stuffs.
Will get some time today or tomorrow to read stuffs.
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I want to find about N3 kills
Halrob is COP & reason for some one to kill hal is obvious.
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But I need to find and summarize what hjelp was up to in D1 & D2 & find who would have think hjelp was dangerous to him.
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Meanwhile till I get a time for that if some one get time they can help me by digging in this thread and find what hjelp was telling, who hjelp was suspecting and to whom he voted etc ?
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[chanakam2020]

Did Sonic ever really try to steer us towards trying to lynch max?

Because if he didn't that's evidence max is mafia.

Clever . Good thinking & good thing to look.
Whom Sonic was try to frame & to who sonic voted etc.
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[Kingm]

Since I can't edit, I did it this way instead, this was how my last post was supposed to look:

Lets just consider what can be deduced from a no lynch D4, because I think this should be weighed up against a lynch of max.

From a SK perspective he would have to make the working assumption that mafia kills town because he has lost anyway if mafia kills him.
If he kills town too he would go 2M 1SK 1T (or 2T if he killed same town as mafia did)
If he killed mafia he would go 1M 1SK 2T

In a 2M 1SK 1T scenario theres no lynch D5 - mafia ensure that
If N5 mafia kill SK they win
If N5 mafia kill Town then a draw between Mafia and SK

Therefore I THINK (and I emphasise thiink) SK would try to kill Mafia N4 in the scenario that we go no lynch D4.

???

Great post, got my head thinking a bit, did not even think of no lynch, and I think no lynch is what gives us best odds?

Could you run the same logic on SK lynch and Mafia lynch?
No point in doing a town lynch, probably not SK either because then mafia kills a town and its 2-2 and just mafia win right?

So yeah only mafia lynch, is that better or worse then no lynch?

And I just think we have to assume its 3T 2M 1S, because that the most likely right? hmm

[Loose Canon]

I agree with you King.

I'm not going to run all the logic scenarios tonight.

I'm putting Max as Mafia right now (although he could be SK).
If Max is mafia, I think I have an idea personally who SK is.
I know SK hasn't helped town so far, but even so I don't particularly want to paint a target on SKs back for Mafia.
But if I'm right on Max and SK I think Mafia have a good idea (at least as good as I do) who SK is.

Anything on 2nd remaining Mafia would be quite tenuous but I may post my likeliest to least likeliest at some point D4.

If I'm completely wrong - again well emotionally given Max's lack of contribution to the game;
I personally don't care if town loses if Max flips town - but I do respect that other townies might.
If Max isn't town, and Max isn't Mafia (but is SK), at least a lynch of Max whilst giving game to Mafia would at least give the game to worthy winners.

I think there is some evidence that a bad boy Max, on top of (way Sonic didn't go for Max - I don't think) the 2 out of 3 chance is more likely to be Mafia than SK , is more than 66% likely to be Mafia.

The floor is open to all while I think some more.