[OFFICIAL] Charle's Fun Mafia - "Game On" Day 4

[hjelp]

If SK wants to win.

[hjelp]

I think I have to think.

[Kingm]

I can't believe this, but I guess its a first for everything.

So lets stop the lynch of a confessed scum

Unvote

[hjelp]

I can't believe this, but I guess its a first for everything.

So lets stop the lynch of a confessed scum

Unvote

How come ?

[Kingm]

I can't believe this, but I guess its a first for everything.

So lets stop the lynch of a confessed scum

Unvote

How come ?

SoN!c post, need to think, you made a great great point earlier.
Can we find the SK now, and is it 100% its an SK?
And if we somehow find out who the SK is, do we take the chance and lynch that person, and let SoN!c live?
I have to do some quick math and think, we are not in a rush, but I find it a bit insane not to lynch a known scum, weird game....

[hjelp]

I can't believe this, but I guess its a first for everything.

So lets stop the lynch of a confessed scum

Unvote

How come ?

SoN!c post, need to think, you made a great great point earlier.
Can we find the SK now, and is it 100% its an SK?
And if we somehow find out who the SK is, do we take the chance and lynch that person, and let SoN!c live?
I have to do some quick math and think, we are not in a rush, but I find it a bit insane not to lynch a known scum, weird game....

I think you just confirmed to be a Mafia too

[hjelp]

I think you just confirmed you to be a Mafia too

[Kingm]

I think you just confirmed you to be a Mafia too

ok, explain that to me please?

[chanakam2020]

In earlier posts there was discussion about possiblity of fake roles provided by mod.
I totally do not understand how fake roles provided by mod work.
Can some one please explain how fake roles provided by mod work.
Preferably with examplkes to mae it easy to understand.

Some mods are more "involved" then others, in the last game we played, LC was mod, and I was a Mafia Hooker, and we did not receive any fake role claims, or hint or anything like that.
He did not involve himself at all in the game.

The game before that Sonic hosted, and I again was Mafia, and damn SoN!c spammed us with fake claims we could do, and lots of hints in the flavor texts he wrote etc.

And what a fake role is, thats a role that is not in the game, but that would fit perfect with how the game has been, and would help scum get sus away from them.

This is probably way off, and I have no idea one way or another, but I feel Charle is more like LC, and does not want to influence the game, so I do not think we are dealing with a fake claim from the mod here.

I was prepared to stick up for SoN!c, even if some people think that both me and SoN!c is mafia.
I wanted Max to claim, now we do not have any pressure at all at him.
But I also do feel that role he claimed, just fits way to good, but if he "does a ew/ragian", and just ragevote himself, and is actually talking the truth.
Then we just lost our last line of defense for our cop.

BUT this is what I find super sus, look at this quote:

Self voting is just stupid IF town. And especially stupid IF town PR.
Both town roles suiciding to get me is mindblowing dumbness. Because im town. And since i believe suiciding is always dumb IF town how was i to know they where town too. FUBAR!

So @SoN!c, I will trust what you said yesterday is right, that its super stupid to suicide if town, so you force me to do this:

Unvote

Vote SoN!c

I freaking bet this is you way to try to get it to seem like you are town just like EW and Ragian, but you said that is mindblowing dumbness, so yeah I know you are not stupid, but you have probably forgot that you wrote it.

So lets see if somebody hammers you, I am almost sure you are scum now.

So it is like the game mod know evry existing roles in game.
So mod is giving players some fake roles which are not existing in games which are safe to claim without fear of counter claims.
.
For example mod know there is no actual Cop in the game.
So he is telling some one that he can safely claim he is Cop without fearing that a real COP would counterclaim.

Do I understand about mod provided fake claims correctly ?

[Loose Canon]

Yes Chana that would be how fake claims would or could work IF Charle gave them out.

[Loose Canon]

Massive respect to sonic, and always a pleasure playing with or against you.

I am dubious as to communicating with other mafia or sk faction.
I don't think it would be Charle s style to have that, although it would be Sonic's.

Has anyone seen anything in posts here that could be a nod is as good as a wink mafia to ano not town communication?

[SoN!c]

Massive respect to sonic, and always a pleasure playing with or against you.

I am dubious as to communicating with other mafia or sk faction.
I don't think it would be Charle s style to have that, although it would be Sonic's.

Has anyone seen anything in posts here that could be a nod is as good as a wink mafia to ano not town communication?

You mean something like this Loose: ?

MAFIA: kills Halrob tonight
SK (or the other faction) : kills Loose

[Loose Canon]

I was wondering if more subtle than that sonic, subtle guy that you are.

[Kingm]

I'm scared of writing, because of what SoN!c has said, and if I talk to much, I might be helping one of the scum fractions more then I help town.
I'm playing out all the different scenarios in my head, and I think all of them are bad, some worse then other.

Killing a mafia and not the SK/other fraction is not great, but I just do not understand how we would find that player/one of the players of the other fraction, seems way to risky.

We could continue the day and discuss more, but the more we discuss the more we just help scums, so f*ck it, lets kill that scum bastard, then we see if we can pull of a surprise comeback victory in the endgame (and this would be a comeback).

Back to L1 with wee man

Vote SoN!c

[SoN!c]

I'm scared of writing, because of what SoN!c has said, and if I talk to much, I might be helping one of the scum fractions more then I help town.
I'm playing out all the different scenarios in my head, and I think all of them are bad, some worse then other.

Killing a mafia and not the SK/other fraction is not great, but I just do not understand how we would find that player/one of the players of the other fraction, seems way to risky.

We could continue the day and discuss more, but the more we discuss the more we just help scums, so f*ck it, lets kill that scum bastard, then we see if we can pull of a surprise comeback victory in the endgame (and this would be a comeback).

Back to L1 with wee man

Vote SoN!c

I love it when a plan comes together

[chanakam2020]

I'm scared of writing, because of what SoN!c has said, and if I talk to much, I might be helping one of the scum fractions more then I help town.
I'm playing out all the different scenarios in my head, and I think all of them are bad, some worse then other.

Killing a mafia and not the SK/other fraction is not great, but I just do not understand how we would find that player/one of the players of the other fraction, seems way to risky.

We could continue the day and discuss more, but the more we discuss the more we just help scums, so f*ck it, lets kill that scum bastard, then we see if we can pull of a surprise comeback victory in the endgame (and this would be a comeback).

Back to L1 with wee man

Vote SoN!c

Wait ?
Sonic is confirmed scum ?
How did you deduce ?
Explain the logic ?

[Kingm]

I'm scared of writing, because of what SoN!c has said, and if I talk to much, I might be helping one of the scum fractions more then I help town.
I'm playing out all the different scenarios in my head, and I think all of them are bad, some worse then other.

Killing a mafia and not the SK/other fraction is not great, but I just do not understand how we would find that player/one of the players of the other fraction, seems way to risky.

We could continue the day and discuss more, but the more we discuss the more we just help scums, so f*ck it, lets kill that scum bastard, then we see if we can pull of a surprise comeback victory in the endgame (and this would be a comeback).

Back to L1 with wee man

Vote SoN!c

Wait ?
Sonic is confirmed scum ?
How did you deduce ?
Explain the logic ?

Yes i am. You got me Kingm. No point in further denial after such brilliant reasoning.. It was BIG FUN and i hope you all enjoyed the SoN!c show and the mysteries i planted.

Trying to make it as fun i could (as mafia)

Getting EW on daylynch right after he caught me redhanded was so sweet , and making Rag claim last town protective that same day was the play and boy so funny when it finally worked.. I realized at the beginning of D2 i was caught so getting the last town protective coming forward was the "suicide" goal anyways. It was so funny when Ragian had to say "im the doc" in the end

And i may add : everything is going exactly as planned

Tonight my fellow mafia will lynch Halrob and the other faction (mafia or SK im not gonna say everything to keep suspense going) is going to kill Loose. But: i'll give a tip: We have fun chat (fun day chat with the other faction) so we made a truce. We will NK town first

MAFIA: kills Halrob tonight
SK (or the other faction) : kills Loose

So Tomorrow it is 7 players without any confirmed townies to start the next level of the game.

Maybye with big PR's to match towns heavy PR - after all, 1 cop, 1JK, 1 town tracker and 1 doc is superheavy to go up against if scum.. And i made sure you will never know who they are

And since You won't be able to lynch 2 on D4 i think you can do the math from there..



FP by Loose

Do you really need more?

[hjelp]

I can't believe this, but I guess its a first for everything.

So lets stop the lynch of a confessed scum

Unvote

How come ?

SoN!c post, need to think, you made a great great point earlier.
Can we find the SK now, and is it 100% its an SK?
And if we somehow find out who the SK is, do we take the chance and lynch that person, and let SoN!c live?
I have to do some quick math and think, we are not in a rush, but I find it a bit insane not to lynch a known scum, weird game....

I think you just confirmed to be a Mafia too

...
Strategically for Town
It doesn't matter if Halrob is Town Cop or SK since we don't have to lynch SK during D3. Maifas will have to kill SK during night-turns. That is, we want Mafia to believe that Halrob is SK and if Mafia doesn't kill Halrob then Halrob probably is Mafia too and => 3 Mafias.
(or our Town Cop survives if they are trying to trick us).
We focus to lynch one of Mafia Son!c or Kingm and let SK kill the other one => 2 Mafias.
IF we think that Son!c and Kingm are Mafias.
...

As I see it.
Strategy Town, regardless Halrob SK or not. The only "true enemy" to Mafia is SK since SK can vote but also NK Mafia.
So Town doesn't want to lynch SK today.

Actually, I think it's in the interest of SK to try and kill 1 Mafia now tonight.

Town has all to choose among whereas Mafia only has SK and Towns to choose among => SK better kills 1 Mafia tonight.

If you want town to win yes. Otherwise no

If SK wants to win.

SoN!c: Town to win if SK kills 1 Mafia tonight.
So Town doesn't want to lynch SK today.

Also, at the moment I don't think that SoN!c claim about co-op Mafia-SK holds.
and SK wants to win => I don't think SK will kill Loose tonight, instead SK will try to kill a Mafia.

and when you unvoted a confessed scum Mafia SoN!ic, that seemed to be a very strange action if a Town.

[hjelp]

@ Kingm

I see now that you changed again and voted for SoN!c .

[chanakam2020]

I'm scared of writing, because of what SoN!c has said, and if I talk to much, I might be helping one of the scum fractions more then I help town.
I'm playing out all the different scenarios in my head, and I think all of them are bad, some worse then other.

Killing a mafia and not the SK/other fraction is not great, but I just do not understand how we would find that player/one of the players of the other fraction, seems way to risky.

We could continue the day and discuss more, but the more we discuss the more we just help scums, so f*ck it, lets kill that scum bastard, then we see if we can pull of a surprise comeback victory in the endgame (and this would be a comeback).

Back to L1 with wee man

Vote SoN!c

Wait ?
Sonic is confirmed scum ?
How did you deduce ?
Explain the logic ?

Yes i am. You got me Kingm. No point in further denial after such brilliant reasoning.. It was BIG FUN and i hope you all enjoyed the SoN!c show and the mysteries i planted.

Trying to make it as fun i could (as mafia)

Getting EW on daylynch right after he caught me redhanded was so sweet , and making Rag claim last town protective that same day was the play and boy so funny when it finally worked.. I realized at the beginning of D2 i was caught so getting the last town protective coming forward was the "suicide" goal anyways. It was so funny when Ragian had to say "im the doc" in the end

And i may add : everything is going exactly as planned

Tonight my fellow mafia will lynch Halrob and the other faction (mafia or SK im not gonna say everything to keep suspense going) is going to kill Loose. But: i'll give a tip: We have fun chat (fun day chat with the other faction) so we made a truce. We will NK town first

MAFIA: kills Halrob tonight
SK (or the other faction) : kills Loose

So Tomorrow it is 7 players without any confirmed townies to start the next level of the game.

Maybye with big PR's to match towns heavy PR - after all, 1 cop, 1JK, 1 town tracker and 1 doc is superheavy to go up against if scum.. And i made sure you will never know who they are

And since You won't be able to lynch 2 on D4 i think you can do the math from there..



FP by Loose

Do you really need more?

Ah, seems I have missed it in flood of posts.
Then after Sonic confessed why did players continue to discuss ?
Shall I vote Sonic and end the day right now ?
Or
Should we discuss more to find some more ?
such as Max was put in to L-2 but yet to cliam.
.
So Should I wait or vote right now ?

[hjelp]

@ Chana
Minor discussion about about mod and SK.
No need to wait to vote.

[chanakam2020]

@ Chana
Minor discussion about about mod and SK.
No need to wait to vote.

IMAO, While I was scratching my head and thinking all possibilities you guys caught Sonic red handed & I missed that confssion and continue to bang my head to deduce some logics.
Lol.



Vote Sonic

[Charle]

This is a Lynch! Sonic Mafia Roleblocker has been killed. It is now night, please send me your night actions. No more posts until D4.

[SoN!c]

I got this comment after my lynch :

your a legend btw @SoN!c
absolutly crazy, but damn you are smart, and a great mafia player

Just wanted to post this

Like Ragian wanted to post "Suck it!" after his death

[Charle]

Night 3 Results

Halrob Town Cop was killed
hjelp Vanilla Town was killed

It is now Day 4. Have fun!

6 Alive - 4 Needed for Lynch