[OFFICIAL] Charle's Fun Mafia - "Game On" Day 4

[Loose Canon]

So sonic are you saying you took a calculated risk visiting Halrob, knowing that mafia would in the least consider trying to kill a town Halrob?

If so you need to explain how that calculation made sense to you.

I'm also pondering why a mafia sonic might visit a mafia Halrob - As I don't have game experience of that happening. I guess I'm probably directing that pondering at Devante probably?

Fpd

[SoN!c]

But @Dev: if you seem to be so sure there is just 1 scum faction, then explain why they killed Darin N1.

Im pretty sure you will say "who cares why" but that is not the mindset we need to solve this puzzle.

Don't know and I agree there might be something there to look into but if there3 is an SK like you say then how do you explain only 1 night kill N2? Or are you planning on adding more town roles into this mix

If you made up your mind then you made up your mind. I already explained but your just fast scrolling. Np.

So i can bang the drums as loud i want, it will not matter one iota.

Suck it

[hjelp]

So,
@Loose
IF
Halrob, Kingm and SoN!c are Mafias they really want lynch a Town and not reveal themselves as Mafias. But if they lynch me or Loose or Chana that likely are Towns they will reveal themselves as Mafias. With that said, if 3 Mafias and no SK.
On the other hand if 2 Mafias and 1 SK - one of them being SK just have go along the other two first voted for Max. Then SK is the third vote. That is Halrob SK and Kingm and Son!c Mafias.
Since no one counter claimed Town Cop. Halrob SK is safe.
I'm just looking at perspectives.

[Devante]

So,
@Loose
IF
Halrob, Kingm and SoN!c are Mafias they really want lynch a Town and not reveal themselves as Mafias. But if they lynch me or Loose or Chana that likely are Towns they will reveal themselves as Mafias. With that said, if 3 Mafias and no SK.
On the other hand if 2 Mafias and 1 SK - one of them being SK just have go along the other two first voted for Max. Then SK is the third vote. That is Halrob SK and Kingm and Son!c Mafias.
Since no one counter claimed Town Cop. Halrob SK is safe.
I'm just looking at perspectives.

if Halrob is SK then he can't be cop and vice versa, he would be one or the other. Right now I'd say it's safe to say he's what he claimed as it would be pretty lopsided for town if Charlie gave him cop as a fake claim and did not give us a cop for town PR's. But it is Charlie so anything's possible

[hjelp]

Though I can't understand how 3 Mafias can do 2 NK.

Now, if 3 Mafias then they during D2 agreed upon
- pushing for Town Cop since no conterclaim - Halrob
- one of them posting many posts - SoN!c
- one of them rather quiet - Kingm

and during D3 they all become more active to command the vote to lynch others than Loose, me and Chana and stay not revealed.

Now, if 2 Mafias then they don't know which one to be SK.
The two will have to guess one to lynch and SK hang on to stay not reveald.

Strategically for Town
It doesn't matter if Halrob is Town Cop or SK since we don't have to lynch SK during D3. Maifas will have to kill SK during night-turns. That is, we want Mafia to believe that Halrob is SK and if Mafia doesn't kill Halrob then Halrob probably is Mafia too and => 3 Mafias.
(or our Town Cop survives if they are trying to trick us).
We focus to lynch one of Mafia Son!c or Kingm and let SK kill the other one => 2 Mafias.
IF we think that Son!c and Kingm are Mafias.

Is it plausible ?

[hjelp]

Moreover
SoN!c as Hooker would make sense since Halrob claimed to be roleblocked and EW claimed that SoN!c visited Halrob.

[hjelp]

Vote SoN!c

[Loose Canon]

I think the lines of your thinking are sound Hjelp.

I also think a lynch of sonic would tell us more about Halrob.
Ie a role blocking mafia sonic would tell us Halrob is not mafia but could be sk. There might be a mafia flip of sonic that would tell us Halrob is mafia - I just don't know what that flip would be.

I don't think the evidence on king being mafia is all that strong, but it is stronger by process of elimination than many other players.

The evidence on kingm being not town is also a bit stronger than another player being not town by process of elimination, to my way of thinking. But only a bit. That player is of course max.

Fpd by hjelp.

Again agree with you and your line of thought.

[Kingm]

Now, if 3 Mafias then they during D2 agreed upon
- one of them rather quiet - Kingm

and during D3 they all become more active to command the vote to lynch others than Loose, me and Chana and stay not revealed.

Now, if 2 Mafias then they don't know which one to be SK.
The two will have to guess one to lynch and SK hang on to stay not reveald.

Strategically for Town
It doesn't matter if Halrob is Town Cop or SK since we don't have to lynch SK during D3. Maifas will have to kill SK during night-turns. That is, we want Mafia to believe that Halrob is SK and if Mafia doesn't kill Halrob then Halrob probably is Mafia too and => 3 Mafias.
(or our Town Cop survives if they are trying to trick us).
We focus to lynch one of Mafia Son!c or Kingm and let SK kill the other one => 2 Mafias.
IF we think that Son!c and Kingm are Mafias.

Is it plausible ?

I understand if its hard not to take into account, but its my health situation that had me so quiet D2, and now I have a lot of energy, and had zero the whole of D2.
A bit oftopic, and ofc up to you to believe or not, but I'm never going to sink so low that I would use my health to benefit me in a game.
Your from Sweden hjelp, so I bet you have heard about MS, that my diagnosis, but its a "mild form", and not the horrible one, but it still fucks with my energy at tine.
Now back to the game, I will post my thoughts a bit later.

The only 2 people I truly trust now is Halrob and LC.
And ofc I would say I trust myself and I'm town etc, but like I said earlier that is like worth 0, everyone would say so, so I will not even bother saying it.

[SoN!c]

Well no cure for stupid.

I'll do the same as Ragian and EW then.. seems fitting.

The target today to win should always be the SK.

Mafia will never kill the SK tonight but the cop.

But alas

Unvote

Vote SoN!c

[SoN!c]

And loose. SK is going to kill you tonight. Halrob just confirmed you as townie ... just saying

[chanakam2020]

In earlier posts there was discussion about possiblity of fake roles provided by mod.
I totally do not understand how fake roles provided by mod work.
Can some one please explain how fake roles provided by mod work.
Preferably with examplkes to mae it easy to understand.

[Kingm]

Well no cure for stupid.

I'll do the same as Ragian and EW then.. seems fitting.

The target today to win should always be the SK.

Mafia will never kill the SK tonight but the cop.

But alas

Unvote

Vote SoN!c

But did you not just say multiple time that its STUPID to vote for themselves if they wore town, and now you are doing the same thing?
Does not that mean you are not town then?? Logic 101 says so

[Kingm]

In earlier posts there was discussion about possiblity of fake roles provided by mod.
I totally do not understand how fake roles provided by mod work.
Can some one please explain how fake roles provided by mod work.
Preferably with examplkes to mae it easy to understand.

Some mods are more "involved" then others, in the last game we played, LC was mod, and I was a Mafia Hooker, and we did not receive any fake role claims, or hint or anything like that.
He did not involve himself at all in the game.

The game before that Sonic hosted, and I again was Mafia, and damn SoN!c spammed us with fake claims we could do, and lots of hints in the flavor texts he wrote etc.

And what a fake role is, thats a role that is not in the game, but that would fit perfect with how the game has been, and would help scum get sus away from them.

This is probably way off, and I have no idea one way or another, but I feel Charle is more like LC, and does not want to influence the game, so I do not think we are dealing with a fake claim from the mod here.

I was prepared to stick up for SoN!c, even if some people think that both me and SoN!c is mafia.
I wanted Max to claim, now we do not have any pressure at all at him.
But I also do feel that role he claimed, just fits way to good, but if he "does a ew/ragian", and just ragevote himself, and is actually talking the truth.
Then we just lost our last line of defense for our cop.

BUT this is what I find super sus, look at this quote:

Self voting is just stupid IF town. And especially stupid IF town PR.
Both town roles suiciding to get me is mindblowing dumbness. Because im town. And since i believe suiciding is always dumb IF town how was i to know they where town too. FUBAR!

So @SoN!c, I will trust what you said yesterday is right, that its super stupid to suicide if town, so you force me to do this:

Unvote

Vote SoN!c

I freaking bet this is you way to try to get it to seem like you are town just like EW and Ragian, but you said that is mindblowing dumbness, so yeah I know you are not stupid, but you have probably forgot that you wrote it.

So lets see if somebody hammers you, I am almost sure you are scum now.

[Loose Canon]

Sonic its at that time where you should make your legacy if Town.

Also I'd view it as an honour to die as town N3.

[SoN!c]

Sonic its at that time where you should make your legacy if Town.

Also I'd view it as an honour to die as town N3.

What do you want me to do Loose?

[Loose Canon]

But Kingm and they are good points about Charle s modding styling and re fake claims, I did as Mod give the role of Serial Killer the role of Daycop too.
Sometimes the ideas that one mod has in a game can trigger ideas for another mod.

What I will say about Charle is he makes an excellent mod to play a game in, because he finds novel game set ups, and then lets the players immerse themselves.
I think Charle is a teacher in real life, I can see the traits of an excellent teacher in Charle.
I bet Charle would love to play in one of his own games.

FPd by Sonic

[Charle]

Vote Count:

Sonic (4) - Devante, hjelp, Sonic, King
Max (1) - Rob

9 Alive - 5 Needed for Lynch

[Loose Canon]

Sonic its at that time where you should make your legacy if Town.

Also I'd view it as an honour to die as town N3.

What do you want me to do Loose?

Sonic, I think you are going to be lynched.

As a town Sonic I think you should give it your best shot at putting in one place for us your final thoughts as to who is most likely to be Mafia and SK (if any) for us and why.
Even if mafia you might want to emphasise who you think are the more likely candidates to be SK (if any) and why.

As I'm sure you recognise part (but not all) of the reason you are facing the prospect of a lynching is the legacy of EW and the suspicions of Ragian (which didn't need a legacy).

[SoN!c]

Yes i am. You got me Kingm. No point in further denial after such brilliant reasoning.. It was BIG FUN and i hope you all enjoyed the SoN!c show and the mysteries i planted.

Trying to make it as fun i could (as mafia)

Getting EW on daylynch right after he caught me redhanded was so sweet , and making Rag claim last town protective that same day was the play and boy so funny when it finally worked.. I realized at the beginning of D2 i was caught so getting the last town protective coming forward was the "suicide" goal anyways. It was so funny when Ragian had to say "im the doc" in the end

And i may add : everything is going exactly as planned

Tonight my fellow mafia will lynch Halrob and the other faction (mafia or SK im not gonna say everything to keep suspense going) is going to kill Loose. But: i'll give a tip: We have fun chat (fun day chat with the other faction) so we made a truce. We will NK town first

MAFIA: kills Halrob tonight
SK (or the other faction) : kills Loose

So Tomorrow it is 7 players without any confirmed townies to start the next level of the game.

Maybye with big PR's to match towns heavy PR - after all, 1 cop, 1JK, 1 town tracker and 1 doc is superheavy to go up against if scum.. And i made sure you will never know who they are

And since You won't be able to lynch 2 on D4 i think you can do the math from there..



FP by Loose

[hjelp]

Actually, I think it's in the interest of SK to try and kill 1 Mafia now.

[hjelp]

Actually, I think it's in the interest of SK to try and kill 1 Mafia now tonight.

[hjelp]

Out of topic,
yes I know MS and it's a task itself to cope with it. Well done. I hope things are working as good as possible.

[hjelp]

Actually, I think it's in the interest of SK to try and kill 1 Mafia now tonight.

Town has all to choose among whereas Mafia only has SK and Towns to choose among => SK better kills 1 Mafia tonight.

[SoN!c]

Actually, I think it's in the interest of SK to try and kill 1 Mafia now tonight.

Town has all to choose among whereas Mafia only has SK and Towns to choose among => SK better kills 1 Mafia tonight.

If you want town to win yes. Otherwise no