[OFFICIAL] Charle's Fun Mafia - "Game On" Day 3

[hjelp]

Vote EW

[hjelp]

I'm leaning to
- SoN!ic Mafia
- Ragian Town

[Loose Canon]

I see where you are coming from.

I've started leaning that way too.

I want to see what happens in the night before leaning more.

But great we are bouncing thoughts off each other.

[Ragian]

I'm in festival mode (and we're playing, too), so I must have missed things because I started reading last night, then I got distracted by music and sound checks, so the stuff I've missed will be looked at Sunday (with a massive headache). I'll try to check in tomorrow morning, too, but I won't make any promises. I'm going to comment on what I see just now reading.

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No, I'm done arguing. I've stated my case.
...
... End this day. Lynch me or lynch Son!c (I prefer the latter, of course). If you make me survive this day, I'm protecting myself. No one has shown me faith enough to earn the good doctor's protection.

If Ragian is a Mafia this would make a lot of sense.
If we let Ragian to survive, and Ragian survives the night, how can we tell if it was by protection as Doc or as Mafia ?

@Ragian
If you are a Town Doc this doesn't make any sense. It does make sense if you are a Mafia.
Would you instead consider to share thoughts of what player to protect? instead of yourself.
Otherwise I will think you are associated to Mafia somehow.

Sigh...I'd really love it if you didn't feel the need to hand night actions to scum. Asking me to state whom to protect gives scum every possibility to counter through their actions. Stating that I'd protect myself could be to throw scum off the scent so they think that I won't protect the town cop. C'mon, people.

Go back to night 1
Someone can confirm I'm the town cop according to EW he tracked either Ragian or Sonic who paid me a visit. Sonic has given me 100% support as town cop, he may have done that through knowledge of being the town doc or just decided its to his advantage to do so.
Ragian as town doc would be my protector and if he did visit me has full knowledge of who I am.
I wanted to investigate Ragian but was blocked from doing so. This has actually made me less suspicious of him despite the fact that I have voted to lynch.
EW is high on my list as a mafia suspect and if there were enough support I would probably switch my vote.
I'm not sure what conversations Loose thinks I'm having with EW that points to me being 40% mafia, but its a game of smokescreens and mirrors so I think its just part of his agenda.
As I said someone here does know I'm the town cop maybe there are two of us, who knows what Charlie set up.
If Ragian is mafia or SKand comes through without being lynched then he will be in a strong position.
Just my thoughts and not necessarily those of the police commissioner

If I did indeed visit you, it would have been because you are an uncountered cop N1. I can't KNOW if you're the cop, but I can play the odds. (Like I do when stating that there aren't three protective roles in this game.)

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I will also update my list:
Leaning town:
- hjelp (throughout game)
- halrob (has not really stated much in terms of reads, but he's uncountered as cop and said he had no result with a dead jailkeeper to boot)
- devante (hasn't said much, but seems to be reading critically)
Unsure
- Loose (seems to be trying to solve the puzzle, but I don't like that he wants me to stop tunnelling to help him tunnel.
- EW (maybe it's luck, maybe it's Maybelline...the way he played D2 has me baffled, but I don't think he MUST be scum)
- Chana (some of the questions asked sit wrong with me, but he seems to be wanting to solve the game)
Unknown
- King (I can't tell...haven't seen enough)
- Max (I can't tell...hasn't bothered)
- Devon (I can't tell...haven't seen enough)
Scum
- Son!c (he's not a protective role)

I'm willing to hammer Son!c. But I don't feel comfortable voting others.

Also, Loose, someone voting for EW (in the case EW is scum) doesn't necessarily mean they're not scum. Scum will throw scum under the bus to gain town cred and as means to an end. Especially if they have day chat. We have to look at the timing of the votes. I still don't think EW is scum, though.

[Loose Canon]

Ok ragian I've read your post twice and will reread it again, but for now two things I will ask you straight off the bat.

Do you think it is possible or likely that out of the 4 claimed power roles more than 2 can be true?
I have said there have been vanilla town to vanilla town nods between myself and Chana. Ok these are not as strong as masonic handshakes, but they are the next best thing. If you factor this in does this change your assessment of Chana and myself?

Lastly and most importantly do my questions to you not perhaps affect your closing assessment of ew, if not absolutely perhaps marginally?

[Loose Canon]

On the tunnelling bit rag, I don't want to respond to that until you have responded further. This is a potential town to town negotiation after all, and a very important one at that.

What I will say is please remind me of the tunnelling bit when you have responded further. A valid end objective of town tunnels is that they meet, like I think the channel tunnel did.

[Loose Canon]

I said channel tunnel, but I am also mindful that I think in ww1 one side would sometimes build a tunnel with the objective of being able to blow up another sides tunnel.

[Extreme Ways]

Bye

Kingm remains scum, the player is better than not seeing my points. It's sonic/kingm +1

unvote vote EW

[Extreme Ways]

I wholeheartedly believe lynching me is better than lynching Ragian. I don't see where I would find the support to lynch Sonic tomorrow from despite Rag's flip.

Ragian can gather the support to flip Sonic tomorrow with my endorsement.

[SoN!c]

Bye

Kingm remains scum, the player is better than not seeing my points. It's sonic/kingm +1

unvote vote EW

You guys are so full of shit and you know it . Ridiculous that the rest is (or is gonna) fall for that like Devante is. He should know better. But probably not much time invested and fast scrolling through here, not thinking at all about the chess game we see here. And I can't believe anybody with experience is falling for the classic self-vote trick either.. Only once it turned out not to be a scum! And that was EW who immediatly said right after the game finished he "wanted to make a big statement"..

No way both EW and Ragian are going to make that statement again. And no way both are gonna vote themselves for real. Mind trickery that's all. And rest of town, like Devante should ask: why do you need trickery if your honest?

And answer me this too: if im scum with Kingm and my D1 search at DDS was "make believe" - just right after Ragian posting " Scum will throw scum under the bus to gain town cred and as means to an end." why didn't Kingm hammer Rag when Rag was at 5 votes (L-1).

So frustrating to see. All EW is doing now is pulling votes off Ragian to him, but he'll switch them to me before deadline..

[SoN!c]

I wholeheartedly believe lynching me is better than lynching Ragian. I don't see where I would find the support to lynch Sonic tomorrow from despite Rag's flip.

Ragian can gather the support to flip Sonic tomorrow with my endorsement.

This is the biggest bull shit so far. Keep it coming

[Charle]

This is a Lynch!

Extreme Ways, Town tracker has been killed.

It is now night, no more chats please. Please send me night actions asap, thanks!

[SoN!c]

Oops! I was clearly not counting the votes

[Charle]

Just a note: I trust that all players are honest to reveal if they saw anything that they shouldn't.

N2 Actions:

Ragian Town Doctor died.

It is now Day 3, have fun!

With 9 Alive - 5 Votes needed for a lynch

[Kingm]

Wow, this sucks, now we are kind of fucked.
When EW voted himself, I knew that we wore wrong, I also do believe LC is town, like he just got it wrong, nobody is scum and fight so hard to get someone lynched, we need to kill a scum today, and Sonic is 100000% scum, he claimed town doc.

Vote SoN!c

[Charle]

EW was the first person lynched so should expect 100 Credits from Raz!

[halrob64]

People voting for themselves to me is stupid and gives misdirection to the wrong people.
I'm annoyed with Loose Cannon he had a bug up his ass about me and EW, although I made the decision to vote EW out I admit I was skewed by the arguments.
You have a problem now Loose as you need to start trusting the right people.
Well Kingm if you are town, Loose is town and I'm town there are not many of us left, try a lynch on Sonic, I will back you and lets see what support we get but we will be up against it.
Lets see who Chana throws his lot in with

[chanakam2020]

Hm, Town Doc killed
.
I really do not understand why town poer role holders vote for themselves.
Both Ragian & EW did so
&
As I remember before vote flow gone to EWs direction Ragian was in L-1 where he was one vote short for getting lynched.
.
Did they realy wanted so desperately to get lynched ?
I dont think Razs 100 credit prize is worthy enough for self voting for town power roles.
.
Halrob the town Cop, What did you learn last night ?
Did you investigate some one ?

[Kingm]

People voting for themselves to me is stupid and gives misdirection to the wrong people.
I'm annoyed with Loose Cannon he had a bug up his ass about me and EW, although I made the decision to vote EW out I admit I was skewed by the arguments.
You have a problem now Loose as you need to start trusting the right people.
Well Kingm if you are town, Loose is town and I'm town there are not many of us left, try a lynch on Sonic, I will back you and lets see what support we get but we will be up against it.
Lets see who Chana throws his lot in with

There is 9 alive, in my head that makes:
3 x Mafia
1 x SK or Wolf
5 x Town

There is only 2 things I know for sure, 1 is that I am town, 2 is that there is no way there is 2 town doctors, so I wonder what Sonic is going to say now, probably something that its me I bet, just wait and see, he will point his dirty scum finger straight at me.

Right now I believe this is the 5 towns: Halrob, Chana, King, LC, Dev, Hjelp,
Hmm I'm not good at counting it seems, and now I am unsure about who from that group is scum, f*ck maybe it even 2.

So I think Sonic, Devon, Max all are scum, and one from the town group, but we know that Sonic is lying, so yeah for now I will keep my vote on him, until he convinces me otherwise, and he is going to have to go full Sonic to try, this will be fun.

Offtopic:
And yeah I have gotten my energy back, FINALLY, so I will be more active D3 and hopefully for the rest of the game.

[halrob64]

I did learn something Chana, yes thankyou

[Kingm]

I did learn something Chana, yes thankyou

Anything that helps us?
Like the best thing for us would be to lynch the 3p (SK/wolf), since then we are not at risk to loose 2 of our last 5 players.
We can't lynch a town today, then we are just fucked.

If we lynch a mafia, thats ok, but we need the 3P to kill a mafia N3, or else we are in trouble, but lets hope we get that 3P.

[SoN!c]

Wow, this sucks, now we are kind of fucked.
When EW voted himself, I knew that we wore wrong, I also do believe LC is town, like he just got it wrong, nobody is scum and fight so hard to get someone lynched, we need to kill a scum today, and Sonic is 100000% scum, he claimed town doc.

Vote SoN!c

A) I never claimed town doc. That's a lie

B) Your arriving very fast in the thread? All game long it was "im out of energy, no time to read....". But start of D3 : BOOM?

C) Let's say im scum for sake of arguments. How stupid would i be to kill the doc?

Also there is just 1 kill. But Kingm does not find that strange? Like he knows?


Vote Kingm (DDS)

[SoN!c]

And i realy thought Ragian was scum (SK) and EW a mafia watcher. Self voting is only done by scum. If your town, especially such an important role, why self vote? It does not help town at all.

[halrob64]

Exactly and now they have both been wiped out

[halrob64]

Exactly and now they have both been wiped out
well Kingm not a lot of point revealing what I know at the moment it will only muddy the waters