EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

by **Loose Canon** on Thu May 02, 2024 1:42 pm

Are you going to say whether it's semi open?
Has there been a previous semi open game I can review rather than ask noobish questions?

by **SoN!c** on Thu May 02, 2024 3:08 pm

Loose Canon wrote:Are you going to say whether it's semi open?
Has there been a previous semi open game I can review rather than ask noobish questions?

(ˌsɛmɪˈəʊpən ) adjective. partially open. a semiopen game/election/adoption/valve

Noun
Semi-Open Game (plural Semi-Open Games)

Also a type of chess opening, in which White plays 1.e4 (moves their king's pawn to the fourth rank with their first move) and Black breaks symmetry by replying with a move other than 1...e5.

Knowing EW its partially a type of chess opening fun meme but partially a "semi-open" meaning a semi-closed game invite for others

because Semi open is just open, but with some restrictions..

So no, there has not been a previous semi open game you can review rather than ask noobish questions.. but not asking noobish questions is part of the semi-open state of mind you wanna have here

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by **Votanic** on Thu May 02, 2024 3:49 pm

https://mafiagg.fandom.com/wiki/Semi-open_Setup_List

So Sonic, are you signing on or what?

by **Extreme Ways** on Thu May 02, 2024 4:03 pm

Loose Canon wrote:Are you going to say whether it's semi open?
Has there been a previous semi open game I can review rather than ask noobish questions?

A semi-open setup is a setup in which some roles are "open", and some aren't.

In the setup we're likely to play, D6, I roll a six-sided die 6 times. See here for details: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=D6

Say I roll 1 3 3 5 6 4

1-3 means investigative roles. I rolled this 3 times, so town gets a Role Cop.
4-5 means protective roles. I rolled this 2 times, so town gets a Doctor.
6 means killing roles. I rolled this once, so town gets a Vigilante.

I do the same for mafia roles, where I roll a die equal to the amount of town power roles - 1. Each roll is a mafia power role.

So why is this called semi-open?
1) Say Mafia has no power roles. They know town only has 1 power role, and that this must be a cop.
2) Say you are a Town Jailkeeper. You know 4-5 was rolled 4 times, so town has either a 1-shot vig and an innocent child; or a role oracle and no killing role, or a 2-shot vigilante and no investigative role.

Both mafia and town are thus partially informed about the setup, and the setup becomes more known the more players are forced to claim or die.

I'm personally more fond of matrix setups, but couldn't find one with a reasonable player count that I also like.

by **fusibaseball** on Thu May 02, 2024 5:24 pm

In if you're still accepting applicants

by **pmchugh** on Thu May 02, 2024 5:32 pm

Extreme Ways wrote:
Loose Canon wrote:Are you going to say whether it's semi open?
Has there been a previous semi open game I can review rather than ask noobish questions?

A semi-open setup is a setup in which some roles are "open", and some aren't.

In the setup we're likely to play, D6, I roll a six-sided die 6 times. See here for details: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=D6

Say I roll 1 3 3 5 6 4

1-3 means investigative roles. I rolled this 3 times, so town gets a Role Cop.
4-5 means protective roles. I rolled this 2 times, so town gets a Doctor.
6 means killing roles. I rolled this once, so town gets a Vigilante.

I do the same for mafia roles, where I roll a die equal to the amount of town power roles - 1. Each roll is a mafia power role.

So why is this called semi-open?
1) Say Mafia has no power roles. They know town only has 1 power role, and that this must be a cop.
2) Say you are a Town Jailkeeper. You know 4-5 was rolled 4 times, so town has either a 1-shot vig and an innocent child; or a role oracle and no killing role, or a 2-shot vigilante and no investigative role.

Both mafia and town are thus partially informed about the setup, and the setup becomes more known the more players are forced to claim or die.

I'm personally more fond of matrix setups, but couldn't find one with a reasonable player count that I also like.

So if you rolled 6 1s, you would get a cop who is informed a random player is town, and no mafia power roles?

by **ghxstfolk** on Thu May 02, 2024 7:04 pm

wheeeee
mountainous my beloved i'm in

by **Votanic** on Thu May 02, 2024 7:27 pm

ghxstfolk wrote:wheeeee
mountainous my beloved i'm in

raithe? Is that you?

by **Extreme Ways** on Fri May 03, 2024 7:08 am

Votanic wrote:
ghxstfolk wrote:wheeeee
mountainous my beloved i'm in

raithe? Is that you?

It's my partner.

I'll send a PM out soon where people can vote between two setups, and start the game in about 48 hours.

by **Charle** on Fri May 03, 2024 7:09 am

Extreme Ways wrote:
Loose Canon wrote:Are you going to say whether it's semi open?
Has there been a previous semi open game I can review rather than ask noobish questions?

A semi-open setup is a setup in which some roles are "open", and some aren't.

In the setup we're likely to play, D6, I roll a six-sided die 6 times. See here for details: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=D6

Say I roll 1 3 3 5 6 4

1-3 means investigative roles. I rolled this 3 times, so town gets a Role Cop.
4-5 means protective roles. I rolled this 2 times, so town gets a Doctor.
6 means killing roles. I rolled this once, so town gets a Vigilante.

I do the same for mafia roles, where I roll a die equal to the amount of town power roles - 1. Each roll is a mafia power role.

So why is this called semi-open?
1) Say Mafia has no power roles. They know town only has 1 power role, and that this must be a cop.
2) Say you are a Town Jailkeeper. You know 4-5 was rolled 4 times, so town has either a 1-shot vig and an innocent child; or a role oracle and no killing role, or a 2-shot vigilante and no investigative role.

Both mafia and town are thus partially informed about the setup, and the setup becomes more known the more players are forced to claim or die.

I'm personally more fond of matrix setups, but couldn't find one with a reasonable player count that I also like.

Pfew!! Thank goodness!! And here I was thinking it had something to do with the state of my body in early mornings!!

by **Charle** on Fri May 03, 2024 7:13 am

Extreme Ways wrote:My time to host, after having subbed, specced, and subbed out!

Depending on the amount of signups, I will be running a 15p mountainous (12 Vanilla Town, 3 Mafia Goon) or a semi-open setup which fits the playercount. Most likely Mafia will have 24/7 access to chat. I'm going to host things slightly different, so pay attention! In addition to the basic rules below, If no majority is reached at the end of the day, the player with the most votes is lynched instead. In the case of ties, a random player between the tied players will be eliminated.

Rules:
show

Game will start once previous one ends.

Signups:
1. Strike Wolf
2. Devante
3. pmchugh
4. Votanic
5. Swang918
6. Loose Cannon
6. Trafalgarlaw01
7. DirtyDishSoap
8. Kingm
9. kongming3
10. *Pixar*
11. Maxleod
12. Ragian
13. Charle
14. fusibaseball
15. ghxstfolk

Subs:

EW we are 16 players, Loose and Traf have the same numbers. Maybe they want to share a seat?

Amazing that King and Kong are always right after each other