Vanilla Elementary Mafia - TOWN WINS!

[Ragian]

Vote count

1 Fusibaseball (strike)
1 Darin (Max)
3 Max (Darin, Duke, Pixar)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to end the day in a lynch or a no lynch.

Prods being sent out today.

[*Pixar*]

If I remember right, doc could use his powers on himself in some previous games I have played. Therefore Max not believing it is some sort of scummy behavior but also could be new at this, not sure?? Another claim couldn't hurt since we already have had cop/doc come forward, can't be too many if any power roles left.

Vote Max

Link please.

Back in the TNC clan days (Forum I cannot access now). But found this https://mafiabot.fandom.com/wiki/Doctor under "Useful interactions to know"

You "cannot access" it anymore...How convenient... I see one problem in that narrative though, past Mafia games are visible to everybody. And it took you 2 days to find one external link that, granted seems legit, but it it looks more like your grasping at straws. Still voting Darin, and you're next. Or Chan. Or Puppy.

Lol you obviously have never been in a clan before. Those forums are private unless you are currently in that clan. That clan is long gone now, this wasn't a "public" mafia game.

[chanakam2020]

Intuition based Mathematics say I can trust Darin, Dunk and Strike wolf
And of course I trust me.

Intuition say fusi & max are bad boys.

Vote Max

[chanakam2020]

By the way I see i-andrei did not vote last day .
Does he have any explanation about not voting ?

[Ragian]

Vote count

1 Fusibaseball (strike)
1 Darin (Max)
4 Max (Darin, Duke, Pixar, chana)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to end the day in a lynch or a no lynch.

[Ragian]

MOD NOTE

Degaston replaces Dunk90. The latter has asked to be subbed due to an unexpectedly busy real life.

[degaston]

Hi guys, I guess I'm now a foreign exchange student.

I'll have to read the thread this evening to try to catch up with the class.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Hi guys, I guess I'm now a foreign exchange student.

I'll have to read the thread this evening to try to catch up with the class.

Which is your role? just to confirm Dunk claim

[strike wolf]

Hi guys, I guess I'm now a foreign exchange student.

I'll have to read the thread this evening to try to catch up with the class.

Which is your role? just to confirm Dunk claim

This.

[strike wolf]

By the way I see i-andrei did not vote last day .
Does he have any explanation about not voting ?

His last post was joking about needing someone to catch him up on what's going on. May also need to be replaced.

[degaston]

I can confirm that I'm a cop, and that my investigations of strike and Darin showed that they are both town

[Maxleod]

I can confirm that I'm a cop, and that my investigations of strike and Darin showed that they are both town

Maybe, just maybe, I was wrong about darin.

Unvote Darin (for now)

[Maxleod]

I can confirm that I'm a cop, and that my investigations of strike and Darin showed that they are both town

Maybe, just maybe, I was wrong about darin.

Unvote Darin (for now)

Wait, it doesn't add up.

Revote Darin

[TrafalgarLaw01]

I can confirm that I'm a cop, and that my investigations of strike and Darin showed that they are both town

Maybe, just maybe, I was wrong about darin.

Unvote Darin (for now)

Wait, it doesn't add up.

Revote Darin

What doesn't add up? Please explain yourself

[DukeHazzard]

I can confirm that I'm a cop, and that my investigations of strike and Darin showed that they are both town

Maybe, just maybe, I was wrong about darin.

Unvote Darin (for now)

Wait, it doesn't add up.

Revote Darin

What doesn't add up? Please explain yourself

I second. You need to explain yourself. How many people need to confirm that Darin can protect himself before you're going to believe it. This is bordering on criminally insane... And you're at L-2. Time to claim.

[i-andrei]

Well i haven't been following too much this lately. Not sure if i will be able to.
Give me a bit to read it, but from what i saw I think voting Max is still just luck based at this point. I didn't see any actual info about why I should do it.

[*Pixar*]

My FOS is on max at this point, the back and forth between believing and not believing darin being a doc is way too much for my comfort level. My thought is he tried to eliminate doc and when it failed he's trying to find out why/how and trying to lynch what seems to be a truthful claim.

[degaston]

I still have more reading to do, but I agree that Max needs to claim, and explain what he thinks doesn't add up about me.

[i-andrei]

Voting Max based on the back and forth with Darin:

Vote Max

[*Pixar*]

Times running out Max, better at least get a claim off before a Scumbag may lynch you

[Maxleod]

What doesn't add up? Please explain yourself

If they were town, they wouldn't both made their role known. Or maybe they're stupid, but making public that you're Doc and Cop doesn't make sense if they are town. Also, we don't know there are special roles to begin with.

[degaston]

What doesn't add up? Please explain yourself

If they were town, they wouldn't both made their role known. Or maybe they're stupid, but making public that you're Doc and Cop doesn't make sense if they are town. Also, we don't know there are special roles to begin with.

It looks like Dunk was at L-2 and Darin was at L-1 when they claimed. This is what you are supposed to do. Not claiming would have surely gotten them lynched - as it appears you are about to do, because you are at L-1, but still haven't claimed.

I don't think this was advertised as an all-vanilla game (I don't think I've ever seen one), just that it's a "closed setup", and was targeted for less experienced players, so it was not going to be a "no-vanilla" game.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

What doesn't add up? Please explain yourself

If they were town, they wouldn't both made their role known. Or maybe they're stupid, but making public that you're Doc and Cop doesn't make sense if they are town. Also, we don't know there are special roles to begin with.

It looks like Dunk was at L-2 and Darin was at L-1 when they claimed. This is what you are supposed to do. Not claiming would have surely gotten them lynched - as it appears you are about to do, because you are at L-1, but still haven't claimed.

I don't think this was advertised as an all-vanilla game (I don't think I've ever seen one), just that it's a "closed setup", and was targeted for less experienced players, so it was not going to be a "no-vanilla" game.

Saying we dont have power roles at all in a game for people that wanted to lear in a more basic game, would not be helpfull at all, so that makes no sense.

Yes they claimed, and conviniently or not, they said doc and cop, cause it avoids lynching, but having only lost EW an no other counterclaim for so long, makes their claims look more real.

[degaston]

Per mafia.gg: Doctor -> Each night, may visit and protect a player from a kill.

I doubt if we have a doctor that that person can save themselves.

Just an FYI, I was a doctor in the "Screw You! Mafia", modded by strike, and was allowed to protect myself, so it's not unheard of.

[fusibaseball]

Just an FYI, I was a doctor in the "Screw You! Mafia", modded by strike, and was allowed to protect myself, so it's not unheard of.

I did a little more sleuthing online and most of what I read says that, in the majority of Mafia setups, doctors cannot save themselves, but the majority here seem to believe Darin, and his lack of counterclaim thus far does give him credibility as Law describes. So I've backed off that and am going with the flow...it's not worth it.

I'm not going to hammer Max because A) it drew so much attention last time I voted and B) I'd similarly like to get a claim out of Max. Regardless, @dega if you've reviewed the thread and are now the cop, I encourage you to investigate me tonight and clear my name so we don't waste time going after me day 4 (there are a few people very suspicious of me and strike is outright obsessed).