is Trump going to prison???

[riskllama]

for being the sorest loser in the entire recorded history of mankind? what do you think?

[DBandit70]

Biden for jail for creating the biggest voter fraud organization in history he even admitted to it

[riskllama]

Biden for jail for creating the biggest voter fraud organization in history he even admitted to it

got a link, DB?

[jimboston]

It’s unlikely Trump will ever go to Jail.

He’s probably done a few borderline illegal things... but anything truly illegal as delegated.
Despite what liberal Trump Haters say, he’s too smart for that.

I also think that an actual jail sentence would NOT help bring some sort of consensus or unity to this country.
It would just further divide us and cause more damage.

Our best case scenario is if he fades away quietly. Like I said... I don’t hate him, just want him gone.
Best case... he gets a hole-in-one on one of his golf courses and then dies of a heart attack happy in his success.

[jonesthecurl]

If we assume that Trump is not prosecuted for anything he's done so far (which is a fair-sized assumption), that doesn't excuse him for future actions. And I'm guessing he will continue to act as he has done so far.

[riskllama]

aren't his constant bitchings & moanings starting to gradually creep into sedition-like territory? serious question.

[DBandit70]

Biden for jail for creating the biggest voter fraud organization in history he even admitted to it

got a link, DB?

there you go, and they even rigged the Obama election to

[jimboston]

aren't his constant bitchings & moanings starting to gradually creep into sedition-like territory? serious question.

Interesting thought.

I would say morally yes... but legally no?

I also stand by my comment that any prosecution would just divide the country more.

[jimboston]

Biden for jail for creating the biggest voter fraud organization in history he even admitted to it

got a link, DB?

there you go, and they even rigged the Obama election to

LOL

So Trump supports laugh when “Sleepy Joe” makes a verbal misstep 9 out of 10 times it’s funny and proof he’s senile. THIS TIME however it’s not a verbal misstep! It’s ABSOLUTE PROOF that he and Obama have an organization dedicated to committing voter fraud, and he’s so proud of this that he admits it on a publicly released video.

LOL

It’s not that he means an organization dedicated to finding and eliminating fraud... no way.

DB, you’re an idiot.

[mookiemcgee]

It’s unlikely Trump will ever go to Jail.

Its true, as a member of the 'Deep State' he will be shielded not from prosecution, but from any meaningful convictions/punishments for his misdeeds.

[jimboston]

It’s unlikely Trump will ever go to Jail.

Its true, as a member of the 'Deep State' he will be shielded not from prosecution, but from any meaningful convictions/punishments for his misdeeds.

I thought Trump was fighting the Deep State?
Isn’t that the standard line?

More likely he won’t go to jail because...
1) He has $ and can afford the best defense.
2) He smart enough to have delegated anything really bad. Plausible Deniability.
3) Intense investigation will suck in other powerful peeps... these other rich/connected peeps know this and so deals will be made to keep things quiet.

[Dukasaur]

I don't know if the statute of limitations has run out, but I would like to see him stand trial for backdooring the assets of the casino.

Now that Chris Christie isn't there to prevent investigation, it should be possible. I fear, however, it's too late.

[DBandit70]

Biden for jail for creating the biggest voter fraud organization in history he even admitted to it

got a link, DB?

there you go, and they even rigged the Obama election to

LOL

So Trump supports laugh when “Sleepy Joe” makes a verbal misstep 9 out of 10 times it’s funny and proof he’s senile. THIS TIME however it’s not a verbal misstep! It’s ABSOLUTE PROOF that he and Obama have an organization dedicated to committing voter fraud, and he’s so proud of this that he admits it on a publicly released video.

LOL

It’s not that he means an organization dedicated to finding and eliminating fraud... no way.

DB, you’re an idiot.

he so gone that he told something he wasn't supposed to say by mistake.

lol thanks, atleast I'm a good idiot

[jimboston]

he so gone that he told something he wasn't supposed to say by mistake.

lol thanks, atleast I'm a good idiot

You actually believe that???

[DBandit70]

he so gone that he told something he wasn't supposed to say by mistake.

lol thanks, atleast I'm a good idiot

You actually believe that???

of course I do.

Do you honestly believe Biden is Better for America then Trump. or are you just a Trump hater because he's Trump

if you do believe Biden is better for America then Trump, pls tell me these great things hes going to do for America.

[jimboston]

he so gone that he told something he wasn't supposed to say by mistake.

lol thanks, atleast I'm a good idiot

You actually believe that???

of course I do.

Do you honestly believe Biden is Better for America then Trump. or are you just a Trump hater because he's Trump

if you do believe Biden is better for America then Trump, pls tell me these great things hes going to do for America.

As I’ve said before... the policy differences don’t concern me too much.
The gridlock in Congress ensures that not much changes.

Trump is however worse because he’s dangerous to the stability of the nation.
His lack of professionalism and complete disregard of political norms can lead to more serious problems down the road.

I could refer you to a book called “The Storm Before the Storm” which talks about similar problems in the Roman Republic, and how leaders in the generation prior to Julius Caesar broke norms... which ultimately enabled Caesar to destroy the Republic. Had these previous leaders NOT violated norms, Julius Caesar’s rise would’ve been checked. I liken Trump’s violation of norms to the actions of Pompey and Crassus and the Gracchus brothers.

[jimboston]

he so gone that he told something he wasn't supposed to say by mistake.

lol thanks, atleast I'm a good idiot

You actually believe that???

of course I do.

Do you honestly believe Biden is Better for America then Trump. or are you just a Trump hater because he's Trump

if you do believe Biden is better for America then Trump, pls tell me these great things hes going to do for America.

But forgetting your question for a minute...

You actually believe that Biden’s “mistake’” wasn’t just a verbal gaff, but was in fact he inadvertently “let out” a secret he wasn’t supposed to?

[saxitoxin]

complete disregard of political norms

LOL, a leftist talking point that's code for "democracy isn't real; you are only permitted to vote for 1 or 2 degrees of change at a time"

we didn't vote for Trump to obey political norms, we specifically voted for him because he pledged to break all of them

the Rats are content with electing someone who just promises change but doesn't actually do much of anything, who backs off his firebrand campaign promises to safely play within the guardrails (Obama); when real, radical change happens, the same people who were cheerleading moments ago start shitting their pants and sobbing about "political norms"

[DBandit70]

he so gone that he told something he wasn't supposed to say by mistake.

lol thanks, atleast I'm a good idiot

You actually believe that???

of course I do.

Do you honestly believe Biden is Better for America then Trump. or are you just a Trump hater because he's Trump

if you do believe Biden is better for America then Trump, pls tell me these great things hes going to do for America.

As I’ve said before... the policy differences don’t concern me too much.
The gridlock in Congress ensures that not much changes.

Trump is however worse because he’s dangerous to the stability of the nation.
His lack of professionalism and complete disregard of political norms can lead to more serious problems down the road.

I could refer you to a book called “The Storm Before the Storm” which talks about similar problems in the Roman Republic, and how leaders in the generation prior to Julius Caesar broke norms... which ultimately enabled Caesar to destroy the Republic. Had these previous leaders NOT violated norms, Julius Caesar’s rise would’ve been checked. I liken Trump’s violation of norms to the actions of Pompey and Crassus and the Gracchus brothers.

lol so don't think Biden is better for America?

I'd be worried about Bidens stability if I were you, Biden has done practically nothing in his 45-50 years of politics except cause trouble


Some of Trumps Accomplishments

Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
Record number of regulations eliminated.
Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

how can you not want someone that did all those great things in a first term

[jimboston]

Do you understand how statistics work?

(Most of those sentences are worded in a way that makes them sound better than actual results.)

I don’t blame Trump for Covid, but claiming economic prosperity is laughable.

Also, some of those numbers might sound like wins... but are meaningless or not good.
- i.e. reducing regulations... sounds good but unless you know what regulations are being reduced maybe not so much.

Also, he’s taking credit for things he had no hand in...
- i.e. “winning” the Olympic bid. His presidency has no impact on that. If anything a second term could hurt this “win”.
- or being a “Net Natural Gas” exporter. He doesn’t control demand from other countries. Also, shouldn’t we conserve our natural resources?

Net exports increasing? Not of manufactured goods... he’s talking about exportation of natural resources.

I could go through this line by line, but clearly by your “cut & paste” approach to politics you are only able to and interested in towing the company line. So much for free thought.

[DBandit70]

lol were never going to get any where any way? are we

[mookiemcgee]

lol so don't think Biden is better for America?

I'd be worried about Bidens stability if I were you, Biden has done practically nothing in his 45-50 years of politics except cause trouble


Some of Trumps Accomplishments

Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
Record number of regulations eliminated.
Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

how can you not want someone that did all those great things in a first term

You know this list is bullshit and you don't care... I mean did you even read it before cut and pasting it? If all Biden has to do to be 'better' than trump is not make up fake accomplishments it's clear why trump lost.

You don't actually believe that in 2020 after all of society closed due to covid that this is a true statement - "More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history."

274,000 fewer people were employed in manufacturing than when Trump took office as of July 2020... and yet you claim " We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election"

I mean really you should read your own list, at least 80%of it is just wrong, and these aren't 'opinion' type things, these are easily verifiable data points. Like really Dbandit? Unemployment hit a 49 year low? did it really in 2020? how do you argue with people who would rather believe lies than basic verifiable truths like 'fire is hot' or 'ice is cold'.

[jimboston]

lol were never going to get any where any way? are we

No. Because you have bought into the ‘Cult of Trump’.

Trumps says “The only way I can lose this election is if there’s fraud.”
Then you and all the Trump apologists believe there must’ve been fraud.
No matter what happens you will believe there was fraud.

When he loses in court the line is, “The judges are biased for Biden.”
When he loses the recount the line is, “They’re still counting fraudulent votes.”
When the voting machines are audited the line will be, “They switched the code and audited the ‘pre-fix’ code.”
or maybe “The auditors are in the bag for Biden and part of the Deep State fix.
When the media reports that Biden has the Electoral Votes needed this is, “Evidence that the media is biased.”
When Fox agrees with “Liberal MSM” they are no longer a trusted source and you switch to One News America.
A video that shows people moving boxes around a office becomes “Proof of vote rigging.”
When Republican officials look into the video “evidence” and find nothing they become “Traitors”.

If some theory or evidence is explained away in a manner that’s undeniable you either deny it or say something like,
“Well that’s just one thing, but there must be fraud because look at all this other stuff.”

You ignore logic... I offer logic and it;s ignored and you just point to the next shinny example of “fraud” that ONA posts.

This reasoning is very cult-like and it’s very conspiracy-theory like... it’s like arguing about the moon landing or flat-earth.

[saxitoxin]

You ignore logic... I offer logic

Logic and Gym don't belong in the same sentence. Just a parade of ridiculous radical left tropes, memes and lies.

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Left-wing Politifact's and BBC's list of Trump's promises kept ... a lot more in the works but requires a second term to complete. And this doesn't include objectively factual promises achieved that the rabid leftists who feed Gym his talking points simply choose not to ignore or rate such as Right to Try legislation.

ECONOMY

- Create 10% repatriation tax to encourage business to relocate to U.S. - DONE
- Renegotiate NAFTA - DONE
- Pull the U.S. out of the Trans Pacific Partnership - DONE
- Lower marriage penalty on income taxes - DONE

IMMIGRATION

- Deport immigrants with criminal records - DONE
- Decrease refugee admissions - DONE (lowered from 90K annually to 30K annually)
- Suspend immigration from terror-prone countries - DONE
- Enact regulations to prioritize hiring Americans over immigrants - DONE
- Repeal DACA Executive Order - DONE **

ENERGY

- Achieve U.S. energy independence - DONE *

DEFENSE

- Order 100% American withdrawal from Afghanistan - DONE
- Defeat ISIS - DONE ***
- Accelerate shipbuilding towards goal of 350-ship fleet - DONE

GOVERNMENT

- Place lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying for foreign governments - DONE
- Nominate originalists to the Supreme Court - DONE
- Donate 100% of president's salary to charity - DONE

* "The U.S. hasn't achieved the "complete American energy independence" but the country is moving toward it."
** Stalled in courts due to Rat lawsuits
*** ISIS lost 97% of its territory within two years of Trump's election and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed by American SF on Trump's order