Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

[Jdsizzleslice]

Fine... technically correct.

So we agree then. MSM projecting a winner means nothing. Certification by the states does.

False.

There are questions... but no serious questions.

There are lots of rumors, innuendos, lies, misleading reports, intentionally altered videos, and misrepresentations... but no serious questions or concerns.

Affidavits, Lawsuits, Court Rulings, etc. Don't be so intentionally dishonest.

I don’t see them dictating to us how we ‘run our country’.

Maybe you should open your eyes then, Jim. Commenting on a situation and activism are not one in the same.

Their opinions mean more than jack-diddly-squat. We don’t live in an isolated world, so the sum-total opinion of our fellow humans is meaningful to me... it’s valuable to understand and appreciate the views of others.

Polls were historically incorrect this election. MSM has no grasp of what people want. Their opinion is worthless. Fake. Jack-diddly-squat is a rather benign term to describe what their "projections" mean.

It’s not a demented view to the people of Catalonia. They might appreciate your help.

You misread what I was saying. The line of logic is demented, not that Catalonia wants independence from Spain. I am not an activist for a situation in a country in which I am not a citizen of. Yet other people from around the world can become political activists in US politics. The double standard is so blatantly obvious.

I wonder if in the next election the GOP will try the new strategy of attempting to get more Americans to want to vote for their candidate rather than trying to disenfranchise Americans again?

conspiracy theory

OMG, the most racist political party ever saw increased voter turnout among African Americans, Cubans, Latinos, etc.

My eyes have been lifted. Maybe this country isn't a racist dumpsterfire after all?

[saxitoxin]

There has never been an election containing more bad news for the party that won the White House than the one that just happened.

The fact that Donald Trump set records for the most votes received by both a Republican and a runner-up should give Democrats pause. So should the GOP’s gains in the House, the likelihood the party will retain power in the Senate and its continuing strength in many state legislatures.

Yet the worst news for Democrats is the reason why Republicans did so much better than expected: the massive, stunning exit poll showing one-quarter of voters from communities of color backed the president who often bashed them. This destroys assumptions demography was destined to lift Democrats.

The implications go beyond that. As former New Republic Editor Andrew Sullivan wrote, “the emergence of this coalition of minority conservatives is ... a complete refutation of what critical race theory tells us how minorities must feel.” And that theory — which holds that race is the determining factor in most people’s lives — has become a central orthodoxy of modern progressivism.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/op ... next-trump

[riskllama]

nope, still a racist dumpster fire.

[saxitoxin]

nope, still a racist dumpster fire.

llama fucks a couple eskimos and suddenly thinks he's harriet tubman

[riskllama]

"inuit" is the preferred nomenclature these days, saxi & i'm pretty sure i have never met one... . also, no idea who harriet tubman is...*shrugs*

[hotfire]

Fine... technically correct.

So we agree then. MSM projecting a winner means nothing. Certification by the states does.

False.

There are questions... but no serious questions.

There are lots of rumors, innuendos, lies, misleading reports, intentionally altered videos, and misrepresentations... but no serious questions or concerns.

Affidavits, Lawsuits, Court Rulings, etc. Don't be so intentionally dishonest.

I don’t see them dictating to us how we ‘run our country’.

Maybe you should open your eyes then, Jim. Commenting on a situation and activism are not one in the same.

Their opinions mean more than jack-diddly-squat. We don’t live in an isolated world, so the sum-total opinion of our fellow humans is meaningful to me... it’s valuable to understand and appreciate the views of others.

Polls were historically incorrect this election. MSM has no grasp of what people want. Their opinion is worthless. Fake. Jack-diddly-squat is a rather benign term to describe what their "projections" mean.

It’s not a demented view to the people of Catalonia. They might appreciate your help.

You misread what I was saying. The line of logic is demented, not that Catalonia wants independence from Spain. I am not an activist for a situation in a country in which I am not a citizen of. Yet other people from around the world can become political activists in US politics. The double standard is so blatantly obvious.

I wonder if in the next election the GOP will try the new strategy of attempting to get more Americans to want to vote for their candidate rather than trying to disenfranchise Americans again?

conspiracy theory

OMG, the most racist political party ever saw increased voter turnout among African Americans, Cubans, Latinos, etc.

My eyes have been lifted. Maybe this country isn't a racist dumpsterfire after all?

I have no idea what you mean. Are you being sarcastic then sarcastic? Or serious then sarcastic? Or just seriously serious guys...

And which party? lmao.

[iAmCaffeine]

Maybe this country isn't a racist dumpsterfire after all?

no it definitely is

[HitRed]

"Your nation has always been a strong refuge for the less fortunate people struggling under tyranny. Now it is being challenged not by weapons of mass destruction, but by ideology. If this election is not cleaned up, your lives will be changed forever. Pray that righteousness is victorious."

[saxitoxin]

Maybe this country isn't a racist dumpsterfire after all?

no it definitely is

EXHIBIT A: In the last 250 years Britain has had zero Black kings. In the same period, the US has had a Black president.

EXHIBIT B: My Conquer Club avatar is a headshot of Chance the Rapper.

Therefore, you are WRONG.

[iAmCaffeine]

you are funny

[betiko]

I really have problems understanding JD's logic. So, if you are not a citizen of a given country then you are not allowed to express your opinion about it?
So catalans being either spanish and to a smaller scale french citizens, they are not allowed to have an opinion about catalonia because they are not catalan citizens right?

[iAmCaffeine]

I really have problems understanding JD's logic.

how does one understand something that doesn't exist

[saxitoxin]

[saxitoxin]

[jimboston]

False.

There are questions... but no serious questions.

There are lots of rumors, innuendos, lies, misleading reports, intentionally altered videos, and misrepresentations... but no serious questions or concerns.

Affidavits, Lawsuits, Court Rulings, etc. Don't be so intentionally dishonest.

What court rulings have been favorable to Trump? No meaningful ones.

I don’t see them dictating to us how we ‘run our country’.

Maybe you should open your eyes then, Jim. Commenting on a situation and activism are not one in the same.

Right... that’s what I said.

Their opinions mean more than jack-diddly-squat. We don’t live in an isolated world, so the sum-total opinion of our fellow humans is meaningful to me... it’s valuable to understand and appreciate the views of others.

Polls were historically incorrect this election. MSM has no grasp of what people want. Their opinion is worthless. Fake. Jack-diddly-squat is a rather benign term to describe what their "projections" mean.

The “they” I was referring to were ‘non-Americans’... not MSM.

... but the options of MSM aren’t meaningless either. They have a lot of power.

It’s not a demented view to the people of Catalonia. They might appreciate your help.

You misread what I was saying. The line of logic is demented, not that Catalonia wants independence from Spain. I am not an activist for a situation in a country in which I am not a citizen of. Yet other people from around the world can become political activists in US politics. The double standard is so blatantly obvious.

I don’t misread what you are saying. Just because YOU don’t want to hear the opinions of fellow “non-American” humans does NOT mean that every American places no value of their opinions.

[saxitoxin]

BIG NEWS! This deserved its own thread.

Wayne County Refuses to Certify Election!
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=234848

[Jdsizzleslice]

What court rulings have been favorable to Trump? No meaningful ones.

Pennsylvania? Jim, are you really this dense?

Right... that’s what I said.

No, that's not what you said. You're equivocating mere opinion and activism.

... but the options of MSM aren’t meaningless either. They have a lot of power.

Jim, the MSM polls were the most inaccurate in history. They have no idea what the common American thinks.

I don’t misread what you are saying. Just because YOU don’t want to hear the opinions of fellow “non-American” humans does NOT mean that every American places no value of their opinions.

Again, Jim, there is a difference between opinion and activism/telling others how to run their country. It's really simple: I will listen to anyone's opinion (granted we can have an exchange of ideas and reasonable discussion). I will not listen to foreign activism in our politics.

Likewise, I don't mind giving my opinion on some foreign affairs (even though I rarely do). I will not engage in activism for another country's politics. This shouldn't be a hard concept for you to grasp, Jim.

I really have problems understanding JD's logic. So, if you are not a citizen of a given country then you are not allowed to express your opinion about it?
So catalans being either spanish and to a smaller scale french citizens, they are not allowed to have an opinion about catalonia because they are not catalan citizens right?

No, you're missing the point I am trying to make. There is a difference between opinion and activism. The example I used was Catalonia for myself. I can give opinions on the situation but why would I be an activist for Catalonian Independence?

The same is true for you, betiko. Your opinions are welcome (granted that you are respectful, which you are not about half of the time) on US politics, but you have gone into political activism in US politics with many of your posts this year.

[betiko]

can we get actual figures of dead people voting, and who they voted for? i mean he lost by over 6 million votes, that's a lot of walking dead democrats lol. Do you imagine vote frauds done at an extend that you end up with millions and millions of votes ahead, but in fact there are millions and millions of more voters for trump.. and that democrat minority actually all filled ballots from their dead grandma twice???
that would actually be hilarious. Also to think that if some "cheating" has been going on... that only democrats could've done it... no republicans... when trump is a well known cheater in everthing and every sense possible of the word?
that is by far the worse sore loser in history.. he will be remembered for that! I can't wait for january and watching the FBI or whatever evicting him from the white house... with Melania with a sweet smile on her face and her well deserved divorce papers.

[jimboston]

What court rulings have been favorable to Trump? No meaningful ones.

Pennsylvania? Jim, are you really this dense?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... s-n1248046

https://whyy.org/articles/a-cheat-sheet ... ive-in-pa/

from article...
“Philly’s attempt to claw back one of Trump’s rare wins”

“No ballots were invalidated as a result of the Trump campaign’s appellate court win, so regardless of outcome, this case won’t affect the outcome of the election.”

Is that the “big victory” you are referring to? That one that has no impact on the results?

Right... that’s what I said.

No, that's not what you said. You're equivocating mere opinion and activism.

I don’t know why you are arguing with me on this point when you agree with me.
Also, since you’ve deleted the thread I forget what the point was.

... but the options of MSM aren’t meaningless either. They have a lot of power.

Jim, the MSM polls were the most inaccurate in history. They have no idea what the common American thinks.

I agree the pollsters were wrong. That was never disputed.

You stated MSM has ‘no effect’... my point is that their opinions, valid or not... right or wrong... DO HAVE POWER. Insomuch as they sway voters.

I don’t misread what you are saying. Just because YOU don’t want to hear the opinions of fellow “non-American” humans does NOT mean that every American places no value of their opinions.

Again, Jim, there is a difference between opinion and activism/telling others how to run their country. It's really simple: I will listen to anyone's opinion (granted we can have an exchange of ideas and reasonable discussion). I will not listen to foreign activism in our politics.

Likewise, I don't mind giving my opinion on some foreign affairs (even though I rarely do). I will not engage in activism for another country's politics. This shouldn't be a hard concept for you to grasp, Jim.

So “foreigners” posting their BS opinions in a Conquer Club Forum now counts as Activism?

You’re initial point was that you were annoyed at the forum members here sticking their nose into our business. Now you are saying you are mad about “activism”. You are moving the bar and changing your point. Don’t try to tell me I don’t understand the difference when you are the person who seems to have a problem with non-Americans commenting on our domestic politics.

I really have problems understanding JD's logic. So, if you are not a citizen of a given country then you are not allowed to express your opinion about it?
So catalans being either spanish and to a smaller scale french citizens, they are not allowed to have an opinion about catalonia because they are not catalan citizens right?

No, you're missing the point I am trying to make. There is a difference between opinion and activism. The example I used was Catalonia for myself. I can give opinions on the situation but why would I be an activist for Catalonian Independence?

The same is true for you, betiko. Your opinions are welcome (granted that you are respectful, which you are not about half of the time) on US politics, but you have gone into political activism in US politics with many of your posts this year.

How can commentary on US politics in a dumb forum like this ever be considered “activism”?

If Betiko is being paid by a foreign government and he’s part of a group flooding forums all over with misinformation... fine.

Him posting his personal opinions here can never rise to the bar of ‘activism’.

[jimboston]

can we get actual figures of dead people voting, and who they voted for? i mean he lost by over 6 million votes, that's a lot of walking dead democrats lol. Do you imagine vote frauds done at an extend that you end up with millions and millions of votes ahead, but in fact there are millions and millions of more voters for trump.. and that democrat minority actually all filled ballots from their dead grandma twice???
that would actually be hilarious. Also to think that if some "cheating" has been going on... that only democrats could've done it... no republicans... when trump is a well known cheater in everthing and every sense possible of the word?
that is by far the worse sore loser in history.. he will be remembered for that! I can't wait for january and watching the FBI or whatever evicting him from the white house... with Melania with a sweet smile on her face and her well deserved divorce papers.

We can’t get figures because the real number of “dead” people voting is so low as to be meaningless.

You can go online and find interviews of people Republican Activists reported as dead... i.e. Republicans claimed person X voted and was dead, so there... that one example PROVES widespread fraud. Then people have researched these claims, and actually found the people who the republicans said were dead and interviewed them!



Most claims of fraud floating around the twitterverse have been clearly refuted... but Republicans deny the proof as fake news. Much the same as a Flat Earth conspiracy believer will deny any proof that the Earth is a globe.

Sometimes people have similar names. Apparently Republicans can’t process that concept.

[jonesthecurl]

Just out of idle curiosity, what is the position if someone voted early but died before official election day? Or voted by post but died before the vote was counted? It's not relevant in any meaningful way, I'm just interested.

[mookiemcgee]

Just out of idle curiosity, what is the position if someone voted early but died before official election day? Or voted by post but died before the vote was counted? It's not relevant in any meaningful way, I'm just interested.

Again, each state can decide exactly how to handle this in their own way so there is no single answer...

https://www.ncsl.org/blog/2020/10/20/what-if-an-absentee-voter-dies-before-election-day-.aspx

[jimboston]

Just out of idle curiosity, what is the position if someone voted early but died before official election day? Or voted by post but died before the vote was counted? It's not relevant in any meaningful way, I'm just interested.

Again, each state can decide exactly how to handle this in their own way so there is no single answer...

https://www.ncsl.org/blog/2020/10/20/what-if-an-absentee-voter-dies-before-election-day-.aspx

Plus the number of actual votes this would REALLY impact is so minuscule that it’s not worth thinking about.

[betiko]

what if someone turns 18 at the correct hour in Nevada but not in florida and was originally living in florida and moved to nevada just to vote on time (for biden obviously, only sneaky democratic frauds would do that)

Oh.. and activism...? I live in a word where the US has a very significant role in worldwide geopolitics, and I think that trump is a disgrace for the world. Ecology and global warming are not even debatable, and removing your country from the Paris agreements is a terrible news for the future of our planet. This and many other foreign policies that have been absolutely terrible. The guy gets bribes from everywhere and gets in all backdoors with no lube causing unnecesairy tensions. I have the right to have my own opinions..
the citizens of your country are seen as clowns worldwide because you have elected a clown... even if it wasn't a majority of voters. This time he gets his ass kicked... and keeps repeating everybody cheated like in 2016 but in 2016 it was ok because this same system got him elected even if more american citizens voted for his oppoent..

[riskllama]

hillbilly spock = butthurt loser...