1st Presidential debate highlights

[saxitoxin]

BIDEN:

"One hundred million people have preexisting conditions."

"I think she's a very fine person." (about Amy Barrett)

"I am the Democratic Party now."

"I beat Bernie Sanders by a whole helluva lot."

"Will he just shush for a minute?"

"I'm the guy that brought back the automobile industry."

"I'm totally opposed to defunding the police."

"My son had a drug problem. He has gotten over it."

"THE GREEN NEW DEAL IS NOT MY PLAN!"

"The Green New Deal will pay for itself as it moves forward."

"I don't support the Green New Deal."

TRUMP:

"One hundred million people don't have preexisting conditions."

"I guess I'm debating you (Moderator Wallace), not him (Biden). That's okay, I'm not surprised."

"You graduated the lowest in your class. Don't ever use the word smart with me."

[President Trump, you're holding big rallies while Mr. Biden has held smaller rallies ...] "Because no one will show up."

"I brought back Big 10 football. I was happy to do it."

"I've done more in 47 months than you've done in the last 47 years, Joe."

"Why did the mayor of Moscow's wife give your son $3.5 million? What did he do to deserve that?"

"You have treated the black community about as bad as anyone in this country. You called them super predators and you've called them worse than that."

"By the way, I've been getting along very well with the governor over there." (Gavin Newsom, California)

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Biden is looking very shaken just 10 minutes in ... at various moments he's stopped in silence and his jaw has started quivering. He looks fragile and delicate - about 98 and not 78 right now. I actually feel sorry and think Trump is maybe being too hard. It's clear the talk about Biden's health is not just talk.

[Jdsizzleslice]

Biden: "Antifa is an idea, not an organization."

[riskllama]

Biden 1 - Trump 0

[HitRed]

He [Trump] stood up for the country. - God

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[saxitoxin]

Debate highlights have now been uploaded:

Joe Biden can't answer a question ... "No! That's not true! It's not true! No! No! Stop picking on me!"


A deer caught in headlights ...


"Don't use the word smart with me ..."


(background on this one - Biden falsely claims he attended Delaware State University)

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African Americans drifting away from Biden, who called them "super predators" ---

[riskllama]

Biden 1 - Trump 0

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Spanish speakers agree ... Trump victorious!

While the question of who won Tuesday's presidential debate between President Donald Trump and Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden lies in the court of public opinion, Spanish-speaking viewers of Telemundo gave their support to Trump. In a poll after the debate, 66 percent of participants told Telemundo they believed Trump won the debate. Only 34 percent of poll participants thought Biden made a better showing in Tuesday's debate.

https://www.newsweek.com/66-percent-spa ... te-1535176

[jonesthecurl]

Trump: a bully who wouldn't bloody well shut up and filled the airwaves with lies. Biden: a stuttering, nice old guy.
I hear there was a TV debate. How did it go?

[saxitoxin]

People even waited along the highway to cheer the arrival of President Trump in Cleveland for the debate!

[Dukasaur]

Trump won't criticize white supremacists

US President Donald Trump was asked whether he would condemn white supremacists and militia groups during the first presidential debate in the US city of Cleveland on Tuesday. Instead of directly answering the question, Trump instead blamed the months of violence in US cities on “left-wing groups”.

“Are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence or the number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha, and as we’ve seen in Portland?” moderator Chris Wallace asked Trump.

“I would say almost everything I see is from the left-wing, not from the right,” Trump responded. “I’m willing to do anything. I want to see peace.”

Willing to do anything, except condemn the violent actions of right-wing extremists.

[saxitoxin]

Trump won't criticize white supremacists

US President Donald Trump was asked whether he would condemn white supremacists and militia groups during the first presidential debate in the US city of Cleveland on Tuesday. Instead of directly answering the question, Trump instead blamed the months of violence in US cities on “left-wing groups”.

“Are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence or the number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha, and as we’ve seen in Portland?” moderator Chris Wallace asked Trump.

“I would say almost everything I see is from the left-wing, not from the right,” Trump responded. “I’m willing to do anything. I want to see peace.”

Willing to do anything, except condemn the violent actions of right-wing extremists.

#FakeNews / #gaslighting --- 110 nights of rioting in Portland, none of which were linked to so-called "right wing groups"



Biden refuses to condemn the rioters. When asked about Antifa he says it's "an idea" then refuses to condemn "the idea" that has burned and looted businesses and attacked civilians. In some cases, the "idea" has chased people down and beat them to death.




Indeed, during the debate, Trump ordered the Proud Boys to "stand down." However, Biden did not order the Democratic Party's militia to do the same which seems to be a threat that he will continue to unleash it on the streets of cities that fail to vote for him. Shame on Biden.

[mrswdk]

tbf Biden probably didn't understand what he was being asked about anyway. When he failed to condemn antifa rioters it might not be because he supports them, he might just have been thinking about what flavour soup he was going to have for supper.

[DoomYoshi]

Name one neo-Nazi American group that you have. You can't name one!

[Jdsizzleslice]

Trump won't criticize white supremacists
Willing to do anything, except condemn the violent actions of right-wing extremists.

Duk, I implore you to watch the entire 5 minute video.

[HitRed]

6 months of food, silver and cash. It's easy to see why.

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Following President Trump's victory in last night's debate, the founder of Black Entertainment Television has thrown his support behind Trump!

“I know what President Trump has done and what he’s said he will do. I don’t know what Vice President Biden has said he will do other than masks, listen to the scientists,” the 74-year-old Johnson said. He suggested the coronavirus response should weigh the tradeoffs of “pandemic safety” versus “economy growth.” Johnson has been a big Democratic donor over the years but also has spoken positively about Trump’s economic policy. In 2016, he said he declined a position in Trump’s Cabinet, saying it was not due to politics but because he could not deal with government red tape.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/30/robert- ... ll-do.html

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Following Biden's defeat last night, his campaign is now trying to convince him to drop out of the last two debates for fear he will do even more damage to his chances!

Biden campaign faces questions about whether he should skip next debates

The moment Joe Biden’s first debate against Donald Trump ended, his campaign was already confronted with questions about whether it should be his last.

The Biden campaign immediately shot down any notion the former vice president wouldn’t show up to debates in Miami and Nashville next month. In a call with reporters after the debate, the campaign was asked whether it would commit to the next two debates and whether it would seek changes with the debate commission. Biden deputy campaign manager Kate Bedingfield said only that the campaigns are in ongoing talks with the debate commission and “I would imagine there would be some additional conversations” going forward.

People close to the president said he was jubilant upon exiting the stage, and many in his inner circle were thrilled with his performance. Trump dominated with his aggressive approach, they argued.

“Trump is the biggest dog in the junkyard. He’s proved that. He’s louder, ruder and appears tougher. The job for Biden tonight was to seem strong enough to do the job and Trump took direct aim at that,” one longtime Republican strategist said. "He's a bully. But after he kicked sand in Biden's face, Biden needed to be stronger and he just wasn't."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/3 ... ate-423484

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Case Western Reserve University has established support spaces for Biden supporters who were traumatized by last night's debate.

https://campusreform.org/?id=15790

[Dukasaur]

Trump won't criticize white supremacists
Willing to do anything, except condemn the violent actions of right-wing extremists.

Duk, I implore you to watch the entire 5 minute video.

Yup, very nice speech.

Do you remember the context? Context matters. On August 12th of 2017, he made an insipid speech where he tried to equivocate and blame both sides for the violence in Charlottesville. For that, he was roundly criticized both by Democrats and Republicans, including influential Republican senators. He probably wouldn't have cared much about criticism from Democrats, but under pressure from big-name Republicans like Orrin Hatch and Marco Rubio, he relented.

On August 14th, he delivered the speech you've cited. It was noteworthy for its very non-Trumpian tone. I remember there were people asking, "Could it be? Has Trump turned over a new leaf?"

Barely a day later, we had our answer. On August 15th, Trump held the Plaza press conference where he went back to his true colours, with his notorious "very fine people on both sides" phrase.

So, you're right. The August 14th speech was a very nice speech, and it unequivocally condemned white supremacist thugs. Sandwiched as it is between the speech of August 12th and the August 15th press conference, it's notable more as a historical anomaly than as a state of Trump's real feelings. Unfortunately, rather than representing Trump turning over a new leaf, it represented a concession to allies in the Senate that he felt he couldn't live without.

Not only the content but the style of the August 14th speech marks it as alien to Trump's own thoughts. When he is giving his own thoughts he is always animated, excited, his hands flying all over the place. When he delivers a speech that someone on his staff talked him in to, he is is monotone, static, and looks straight into the teleprompter.

Do you remember John Kelly grimacing, almost as if in pain, when he heard the "fine people on both sides" comment? That tells you a lot.

[mrswdk]

I did enjoy this exchange:

[Jdsizzleslice]

Trump won't criticize white supremacists
Willing to do anything, except condemn the violent actions of right-wing extremists.

Duk, I implore you to watch the entire 5 minute video.

Yup, very nice speech.

Do you remember the context? Context matters. On August 12th of 2017, he made an insipid speech where he tried to equivocate and blame both sides for the violence in Charlottesville. For that, he was roundly criticized both by Democrats and Republicans, including influential Republican senators. He probably wouldn't have cared much about criticism from Democrats, but under pressure from big-name Republicans like Orrin Hatch and Marco Rubio, he relented.

On August 14th, he delivered the speech you've cited. It was noteworthy for its very non-Trumpian tone. I remember there were people asking, "Could it be? Has Trump turned over a new leaf?"

Barely a day later, we had our answer. On August 15th, Trump held the Plaza press conference where he went back to his true colours, with his notorious "very fine people on both sides" phrase.

So, you're right. The August 14th speech was a very nice speech, and it unequivocally condemned white supremacist thugs. Sandwiched as it is between the speech of August 12th and the August 15th press conference, it's notable more as a historical anomaly than as a state of Trump's real feelings. Unfortunately, rather than representing Trump turning over a new leaf, it represented a concession to allies in the Senate that he felt he couldn't live without.

Not only the content but the style of the August 14th speech marks it as alien to Trump's own thoughts. When he is giving his own thoughts he is always animated, excited, his hands flying all over the place. When he delivers a speech that someone on his staff talked him in to, he is is monotone, static, and looks straight into the teleprompter.

Do you remember John Kelly grimacing, almost as if in pain, when he heard the "fine people on both sides" comment? That tells you a lot.

You say context matters, then take Trump out of context. The full questioning is below where he very clearly states that white nationalists should be condemned. Watch the whole video...



At this point, there are at least two citations I have provided where Trump clearly denounces white nationalists. This is fact, and undebatable that he condemned white supremacy.

[Dukasaur]

Trump won't criticize white supremacists
Willing to do anything, except condemn the violent actions of right-wing extremists.

Duk, I implore you to watch the entire 5 minute video.

Yup, very nice speech.

Do you remember the context? Context matters. On August 12th of 2017, he made an insipid speech where he tried to equivocate and blame both sides for the violence in Charlottesville. For that, he was roundly criticized both by Democrats and Republicans, including influential Republican senators. He probably wouldn't have cared much about criticism from Democrats, but under pressure from big-name Republicans like Orrin Hatch and Marco Rubio, he relented.

On August 14th, he delivered the speech you've cited. It was noteworthy for its very non-Trumpian tone. I remember there were people asking, "Could it be? Has Trump turned over a new leaf?"

Barely a day later, we had our answer. On August 15th, Trump held the Plaza press conference where he went back to his true colours, with his notorious "very fine people on both sides" phrase.

So, you're right. The August 14th speech was a very nice speech, and it unequivocally condemned white supremacist thugs. Sandwiched as it is between the speech of August 12th and the August 15th press conference, it's notable more as a historical anomaly than as a state of Trump's real feelings. Unfortunately, rather than representing Trump turning over a new leaf, it represented a concession to allies in the Senate that he felt he couldn't live without.

Not only the content but the style of the August 14th speech marks it as alien to Trump's own thoughts. When he is giving his own thoughts he is always animated, excited, his hands flying all over the place. When he delivers a speech that someone on his staff talked him in to, he is is monotone, static, and looks straight into the teleprompter.

Do you remember John Kelly grimacing, almost as if in pain, when he heard the "fine people on both sides" comment? That tells you a lot.

You say context matters, then take Trump out of context. The full questioning is below where he very clearly states that white nationalists should be condemned. Watch the whole video...



At this point, there are at least two citations I have provided where Trump clearly denounces white nationalists. This is fact, and undebatable that he condemned white supremacy.

Okay, in the second example he very grudgingly gave in and said that neo-Nazis should be condemned, all while continuing to pretend the blame was equal on both sides. Hardly a resounding condemnation. Imagine saying, "People like Charles Manson ought to be condemned, but let's face it, that Sharon Tate was a real bitch, and she yelled at them. She definitely should take half the blame for getting sliced up!"