coronavirus - The Legacy

[2dimes]

Its time for the world reserve currency to change and this covid will accelerate that, bye bye american empire.

I alway wondered how they would get Americans to accept a single world currency when they used to take such pride in their greenbacks.

[saxitoxin]

Its time for the world reserve currency to change and this covid will accelerate that, bye bye american empire.

The greenback is like the Russian Navy. The Russian Navy has been on the verge of collapse for the last 300 years. And yet it's still here. Better people than you have been predicting the demise of the dollar for the last 80 years. There are institutional safety checks that were built into this system to defend the greenback's status through a nuclear war. And this isn't a nuclear war.

Wednesday of last week the dollar hit the strongest it's been in 12 years while the euro and pound sterling are in catastrophic freefall. You're under the delusion that power brokers risk their wealth for ideology or ethics. But they don't. The U.S. could throw a bag of 10,000 Mexican kittens into the Grand Canyon and the dollar would be just fine.

[2dimes]

Exhibit A.

[HitRed]

Investors like a reserve currency with lots of cross checks from many different reliable sources. This involves free flow of information, working legal system and a watchdog media. Currently that is the USA. Holding dollars is another way of saying I trust you the most of all choices.

[saxitoxin]

After President Trump announced a ban on N95 masks to Canada, Canada said they would stop sending raw materials to make them to the U.S.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1720276035970

Less than 24 hours later, Trudeau backpedelled and pledged absolutely no retaliation.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6778746/cana ... striction/

The Westphalian System created a world of legal equals among nations, not a world of actual equals. This is one of those once-ever-century events where America may turn from friendly shepherd to busy butcher, where America's flock may be reminded of the Darwinian order and the vast reserves of untapped power the United States has accumulated over the last 80 years. In a year it'll be back to watching crap films from MGM and 20th Century Fox, listening to shitty music from Ariana Grande, and stuffing themselves on Pepsi and KFC; all will be forgotten quickly because those in charge of Canada, France, Germany, etc. can't afford not to forget.

But for the next few weeks many nations will be required bend the knee. And the people of those nations who will be fed to the jaws of the Colossus will feel humiliated and will hate America for 20 years. But the system will survive because it was designed to survive.

IOW America is the Bagger288

[saxitoxin]

In Europe, 100% of everyone has access to healthcare ... the same shitty, low-quality, assembly line, factory hospitals ...

COVID-19 Fatality Rate

Italy - 12.33%
UK - 10.29%
Spain - 9.42%
Netherlands - 9.93%
France - 8.40%
Belgium - 6.96%
Sweden - 5.79%
USA - 2.71%

... in America, 95% of the population has access to the finest and most advanced medical infrastructure the world has ever known.

[mookiemcgee]

Denying Medicines to Iran and Venezuela Is a Crime Against Humanity
Philip Giraldi Fri, Apr 3, 2020

https://russia-insider.com/en/denying-m ... ty/ri28463

Russians Help Disinfect Italian Hospital (Video)
Baron Bodissey

https://russia-insider.com/en/russians- ... eo/ri28501

The world sees this stuff, huge difference in character and leadership.

Finally Armati has climbed out from his giant pile of russian gold long enough to criticize the US. Did you see your shadow? Is this a sign spring is coming early this year?

[Lootifer]

In Europe, 100% of everyone has access to healthcare ... the same shitty, low-quality, assembly line, factory hospitals ...

COVID-19 Fatality Rate

Italy - 12.33%
UK - 10.29%
Spain - 9.42%
Netherlands - 9.93%
France - 8.40%
Belgium - 6.96%
Sweden - 5.79%
USA - 2.71%

... in America, 95% of the population has access to the finest and most advanced medical infrastructure the world has ever known.

Man I miss BBS.

[armati]

I just had to check the responses to what I posted.
As expected I got a good laff, thx guys.

[HitRed]

April 4, 20

I sweep across your nation back-and-forth. I sweep to cover your nation* with my mercy and strength. I call all people of this great nation to pray for all affected by this virus. Never cease in prayer for my mercy and strength. I am with every soul that weeps and mourns at this time. My comfort is there for all at this time.

I come with great mercy for a world that is covered in darkness and despair. I need hearts to return to me in this grave hour of the world. My mercy can do much more if hearts were open to it. I cover the world with the light of truth for those few who see the truth and follow my ways and my commands. Heed my words and take seriously my commands. I the Lord God knows all and sees all. Follow my ways and commands for the salvation of souls.

I speak to you now that the worst is to happen. Come and believe in me and stay in my Sacred Heart for your security and protection. I am with you now and forever until the end of time itself. I lead you always in to my heart for there are many places to hide in my heart.

Go in my love and my mercy.

* U.S.A

[jimboston]

I’m surprised at how low China’s numbers are... I think there are multiple factors, but it’s hard to know which are more important/which are having a bigger influence on what we are seeing...

1) China under-reporting due to errors / undiagnosed spread... I think this is a big factor, especially early in the development of the virus. I read one report from a statistician (at MIT I think) who claimed that his math showed their total should be closer to 700K and not the 80K they claim. The report was from a reputable source and was based on the spread numbers from S. Korea.

This makes me feel good, because if true it’s likely that their is much more spread here than the authorities know and that the illness is getting way less people sick than we think. This would help explain in part why the spread has slowed in China. ecause they have achieved some level of “herd immunity”.

2) China under-reporting intentionally... this is possible and if true scary. I think some places like Russia and N. Korea are definitely doing this... but I’m hopeful this is not true in China. The only places that seems to claim this is a massive problem are anti-communist type websites.

3) China’s lockdown...if this is the main reason that spread has slowed it’s scary to me because I just don’t see the US being able to lockdown as hard as China, nor do I think we can sustain it. People just won’t accept it. (Plus it’s all illegal here anyway.)

4) Genetic Differences... There’s evidence that people with “O” type blood are less likely to get ill. Perhaps their are other genetic variations that make Asian people less likely to get ill? Total speculation here! This however would help explain why Western countries are getting hit harder than Asian countries.

5) Immunity due to exposure to other “Covid” viruses... again some speculation, but I heard some doctors speculating similar ideas. Asian countries were exposed to SARs which is related to the new Novel Corona genetically. There is speculation that exposure to other genetically similar Covid viruses may give people in that part of the world some immunity compared to people from other parts of the world.

Items 3 and 4 make this virus scary for people of European descent.

It’s all interesting from a scientific standpoint...but it’s also very scary. US numbers are getting extremely big and we haven’t plateaued yet... assuming nationally we are still at least a few weeks away from the crest...it’s not looking good. The fact that different regions are responding differently also means that it could be with us for awhile and it could be harder to control flare-ups.

‘China might be under-reporting numbers, my evidence for this is that it’s China’.

Read the rest of the thread dude. The reason it’s spreading way less quickly in China, Korea, Singapore etc is that they took better preemptive measures, faster. China’s initial response was delayed by officials in Wuhan who downplayed/didn’t realise what was happening, but once the central government got involved it reacted fast.

Given that COVID first spread in China, then to other countries in the region, and spread rapidly, the idea that Chinese or East Asian people are somehow immune should self-evidently be nonsense.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -lies.html

[mrswdk]

The same CIA that said Saddam Hussein had WMDs? And that repeatedly asserts Huawei is an agent of the Chinese government while refusing to ever show any evidence, because this isn’t a smear campaign trust us bro?

[jimboston]

The same CIA that said Saddam Hussein had WMDs? And that repeatedly asserts Huawei is an agent of the Chinese government while refusing to ever show any evidence, because this isn’t a smear campaign trust us bro?

I’m not saying I automatically believe it....

Not does the article give any numbers...

Also, it doesn’t directly blame the Chinese Central Gov’t... but rather underreporting at the lower levels PLUS lower counts due to people with little/no symptoms being missed (especially earlier in the outbreak).

The point I’m making is simply that I am demonstrating a balance approach versus the two extremes...

People like yourself who say “China would NEVER lie and underreport” and other people who say “Obviously China has MASSIVELY underreported”.

I say... “Look, the numbers don’t make sense... and here are some possible explanations... and one of those explanations is underreporting.”

Then I put this link published by a UK paper that I’m. it the ONLY person who thinks there’s some underreporting.

The article further explains HOW... and ALSO WHY IT MATTERS...

... because China’s underreporting early on hurt the World’s ability to truly understand how contagious this virus actually is AND how best to respond.

China’s underreporting (in error or intentionally) gives scientists inaccurate data, so the early models developed where in accurate.
Having inaccurate data led policy makers to bad decisions and misled the public into complacency when we should’ve been preparing.

Basically, China’s failures or lies killed people in other countries!

I took it extreme, because that seems to be how people ‘discuss’ things in this forum.

The simple fact is that the massive lockdown/ social distancing happening in China is likely slowing the spread and is saving lives... but it alone CANNOT account for the fact that China has 1/3rd of Covid-19 cases reported (as compared to the US);while it’s population is nearly 4 times as high as the US. Lockdown alone doesn’t explain it.

So please reply again and tell us all how the Chinese are the most honest people.

BULLSHIT.

[mrswdk]

The same CIA that said Saddam Hussein had WMDs? And that repeatedly asserts Huawei is an agent of the Chinese government while refusing to ever show any evidence, because this isn’t a smear campaign trust us bro?

I’m not saying I automatically believe it....

Once again jim posting sources that even he isn't sure are credible, in order to prompt debates about issues that may or may not exist.

If you're going to be so lazy as to re-post pure speculation then wait for other people to do your research for you, perhaps you could at least start stamping all such posts with a big title to alert people to the fact the post isn't worth giving much thought to? Perhaps something along the lines of 'I DO NOT ACTUALLY THINK ANY OF THE THINGS I AM SAYING IN THIS POST'?

People like yourself who say “China would NEVER lie and underreport”

I have never said that. I have just pointed out the ridiculousness of people saying things like 'the Chinese government's testing won't include lots of asymptomatic or self-isolating people who never got tested' or 'the government hasn't been testing the entire population', then using that to attempt to smear China as a deliberate under-reporter - despite the fact the same could be said of every single country in the world.

But hey, getting evidence is hard isn't it? Whereas spreading whichever Facebook post you have closest to hand and saying 'the Chinese government is secretive therefore it's not possible to get any hard evidence' is easy. And it's so sunny and warm these days, so who wants to do hard things?

[jonesthecurl]

April 4, 20

I sweep across your nation back-and-forth. I sweep to cover your nation* with my mercy and strength. I call all people of this great nation to pray for all affected by this virus. Never cease in prayer for my mercy and strength. I am with every soul that weeps and mourns at this time. My comfort is there for all at this time.

I come with great mercy for a world that is covered in darkness and despair. I need hearts to return to me in this grave hour of the world. My mercy can do much more if hearts were open to it. I cover the world with the light of truth for those few who see the truth and follow my ways and my commands. Heed my words and take seriously my commands. I the Lord God knows all and sees all. Follow my ways and commands for the salvation of souls.

I speak to you now that the worst is to happen. Come and believe in me and stay in my Sacred Heart for your security and protection. I am with you now and forever until the end of time itself. I lead you always in to my heart for there are many places to hide in my heart.

Go in my love and my mercy.

HItRed, if these babbles belong in Street Corner, they don't belong here too.

* U.S.A

[HitRed]

I created both threads.

And thanks for reposting and getting the message out. You can be useful.

[saxitoxin]

The "treasured" and "valued" National Health Service has now tracked more than 50% of the C19 fatalities as the USA, despite Britain only having 20% of the population.

It appears that - when put to the test - Quality Health Care combined with the rigorous accountability of a liberal tort system is wildly outperforming Factory Hospitals.

[jimboston]

I’m not saying I automatically believe it....

Once again jim posting sources that even he isn't sure are credible, in order to prompt debates about issues that may or may not exist.

I think the Guardian is credible...but the Guardian is only reporting what its’ sources say.

Me having a healthy dose os skepticism about what I read interpreted by you as me saying “I’m not sure if my sources are credible”?

You should do something to improve your reading comprehension skills.

Just because (in this case) “I don’t automatically believe it”, doesn’t mean it’s not credible or should be given some weight.

[Dukasaur]

Mrswdk: "The Asians are doing everything right! Except the masks. They're definitely wrong about the masks.

The Westerners are wrong about everything. Except the masks. For sure Western propaganda is spot-on when it talks about the masks!"

I see now you've entered the final stage of forum trolling: not even trying to respond to any of the points I make and just attacking the messenger.

I don't know why you're so obsessed with masks to the extent that you've decided that my advice must be some sort of attempt at brainwashing you. Go buy 100 masks and sellotape them all over your wife's body then. Hope there's space for them in your trolley given you've probably already stufed it with 300 rolls of toilet paper.

Called it.

[saxitoxin]

Bill Gates has gone on record stating that President Trump's prediction of 100,000 deaths is on the high side.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/05/bill-ga ... nario.html

USA - Prepare for the worst, experience the best
Europe - Prepare for the best, experience the worst

So glad Trump is our president and not Freddy Spaghetti or whomever the PM of Italy is

[saxitoxin]

Boris Johnson's coronavirus has gotten worse and he's now been hospitalized. Dominic Raab is now in charge of the UK, making him the first Jew to run Britain since Benjamin Disraeli. How will this change Britain as it begins to rebuild? What policies can we expect from Raab?

Anyway, as a valued ally, President Trump should order the U.S. Air Force to immediately evacuate Johnson to the United States. Statistically, he has a better chance of making it through this in an American hospital than in a British one (97% chance versus 90% chance).

[mrswdk]

Mrswdk: "The Asians are doing everything right! Except the masks. They're definitely wrong about the masks.

The Westerners are wrong about everything. Except the masks. For sure Western propaganda is spot-on when it talks about the masks!"

I see now you've entered the final stage of forum trolling: not even trying to respond to any of the points I make and just attacking the messenger.

I don't know why you're so obsessed with masks to the extent that you've decided that my advice must be some sort of attempt at brainwashing you. Go buy 100 masks and sellotape them all over your wife's body then. Hope there's space for them in your trolley given you've probably already stufed it with 300 rolls of toilet paper.

Called it.

I think it's because those four territories predominately use chopsticks, whereas the others predominately use forks.

Also you're ignoring the fact that China is within your red blob, and China has the same mask-wearing practices as the other East/SE Asian countries circled in blue.

[Lootifer]

Bill Gates has gone on record stating that President Trump's prediction of 100,000 deaths is on the high side.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/05/bill-ga ... nario.html

USA - Prepare for the worst, experience the best
Europe - Prepare for the best, experience the worst

So glad Trump is our president and not Freddy Spaghetti or whomever the PM of Italy is

Actually best you send him to those librul cucks running factory hospitals in the icy EU state of Finland. Death rate is half that of US OF A.

[Lootifer]

Vibrant young politician shows US how to tackle C19

[saxitoxin]

Bill Gates has gone on record stating that President Trump's prediction of 100,000 deaths is on the high side.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/05/bill-ga ... nario.html

USA - Prepare for the worst, experience the best
Europe - Prepare for the best, experience the worst

So glad Trump is our president and not Freddy Spaghetti or whomever the PM of Italy is

Actually best you send him to those librul cucks running factory hospitals in the icy EU state of Finland. Death rate is half that of US OF A.

Well if we're going to comb through the list of EU states to find the best one, cherry pick it, and then compare it to the entire US, I'd like to do the same. I pick the Trumpist-ruled state of North Dakota. It has a 0.0% death rate compared to Finland's 1.45% death rate.

So. Much. #Winning.