coronavirus - The Legacy

[saxitoxin]

IMPORTANT UPDATES FROM THE WHITE HOUSE!

1 - Take-Down of Lying Press

The White House just took-down the lying press on Instagram in a stunning post that shows all officials give all the garlands of victory to the president for leading the Nation to total triumph!

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-YQKTgld3H

WOW!!!

2 - Recap of Trump's Victorious Actions



3 - Updated Guidance


Rear Admiral Brown, the Special Envoy of the President, Provides Updated Guidance (Spanish only), says that for more information the public should first go to coronavirus.gov, and notes that President Trump and the armed forces "salute all Americans."

[dgz345]

Everything this corona has done is giving me time to do unnecessary stuff that creates such beautiful rainbow colors

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[mrswdk]

I love how Trump is flip-flopping between humility and deference to the gravity of the crisis, and not wanting to miss a chance to beat his chest and declare himself the saviour of America. Like, on a good day he seems to make that costume change a good four or five times. That dude just can't help himself.

Everything this corona has done is giving me time to do unnecessary stuff that creates such beautiful rainbow colors

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This is quite nice, but also a bit of cry for help.

[jimboston]

Isn’t “some immunity” basically the same as saying “partial immunity” and/or “resistance”?

It is. Regardless of which of those terms you chose to use you were still wrong.

How so?

You are selecting one sentence, which isn’t even wrong, and ignoring how it’s related to the rest of what I wrote.

saxi...you’re an ass

How come you. and Saxi are always posting around the same time?

It doesn't matter whether you say 'some immunity', 'partial immunity', 'resistance' or any other synonym you can think of, someone being any of the above has no impact on their capacity to carry and transmit COVID-19.

I never said it did.

My thoughts, as explained in my original post, include the likelihood that the virus has infected a VAST NUMBER of people (in China) than the official numbers suggest. I’m saying this not as an intentional miscounting... but rather as a complete underreporting due to the POSSIBILITY that people there are getting the virus and just NOT getting as sick as Europeans. Clamping down on social contact alone is NOT enough by itself to explain the numbers we are seeing from China.

Perhaps you should read the whole post and use that brain to try to understand it... as opposed to look for one area where you can attack me because you think I’ve misused a word.

... but it seems you prefer to attack me for some reason here.

Even when there are people claiming China’s definitely fudging their numbers on purpose... you seem fixated on me, when my post is presenting a middle ground that includes a few possible reasons... and I’m just asking “which is the bigger factor do you think”?

I’m not saying “I’m absolutely right and these are the answers”.

Yet you keep attacking... and on the wrong points that are easily refuted.

Usually you’re just an Ass... but today you’re an Idiot and an Ass.

[jimboston]

Pence: 'US model looks like Italy'

What's funny is that even as it becomes clear that the approaches taken in Europe and US are screw-ups compared to those taken in East Asia, people in Europe/the US are still ragging on about how they think the East Asian response is totalitarian.

Like at the moment the UK Government is trying to develop an app that can be used to track COVID-19 patients in the same way as the COVID-19 apps developed in Korea and Taiwan, and all people here can say is 'herp herp but what if the government tries to spy on me?'.

Like a) if you think the government has nothing better than to monitor your walks to the supermarket in real time then you are mistaken, b) why do you even care if they do?, and c) I hope you're happy letting an extra 1,000 old people die just because you 'feel a bit iffy about downloading a tracking app'.

But hey, freedom woo. Looks like Western governments really screwed themselves with all those decades of Cold War brainwashing.

If it was just 1000 I’d take that number any day.

Yes... we are and should be worried about our Freedom.

You’re so brainwashed that you see no value in it at all.

[mrswdk]

Can we get a view from someone who isn’t locked in an underground bunker surrounded by 2,000 tins of food?

[jimboston]

[HitRed]

I was driving with my dad today and I mentioned the USNS Comfort in New York. He said during the Korean War we had 3 anchored off the Korean coast. "The USS Constalation and 2 others, I forget their names." He was a Navy photographer during the war.

USS Constalation


The other two were USS Repose and USS Haven.

[saxitoxin]

Interesting stat ...

The top 7 states for C19 deaths in the United States, together, account for 63% of all American C19 fatalities: New York, California, Washington, Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan, New Jersey.

What do they all have in common?

- Geographically clustered? No.
- Similar size? No.
- Similar climates? No.

The one thing that all 7 of these states have in common is that they all have a Democrat governor.

And, they'll all probably reelect their Rat governors, too, despite the fact they've mismanaged their states into pandemic epicenters.

[saxitoxin]

Oh yeah ... the seven states with the lowest number of C19 fatalities? Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, West Virginia.

Four of the seven have Trump Party governors.

The BBC today reported a great story on the Trump Party Governor of Ohio ...

Coronavirus: The US governor who saw it coming early

As the coronavirus outbreak barrels throughout the US, states have scrambled to get ahead of its spread, often after weeks of inaction. But one governor imposed sweeping measures days before a single case had been reported in his state.

On 5 March, after resistance from organisers, Mr DeWine got a court order to shut down much of the Arnold Sports Festival - an annual event featuring 20,000 athletes from 80 countries, around 60,000 spectators each day, and an expected $53m for Columbus, the state's largest city.

The state had yet to report a single case.

Still, while Ohio's infection numbers are rising, it has so far managed to avoid the surges seen in states like New York, Washington, and Louisiana, ranking 15th nationwide in terms of reported cases.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52113186

IT'S A FACT: TRUMPISM SAVES LIVES

[Lootifer]

As USA posts a record setting 1000 deaths a day from COVID-19, Saxitoxin, a well respected conquer club forum poster, pivots and switches to blaming Democrats rather than baiting EU sympathisers!

[Dukasaur]

As USA posts a record setting 1000 deaths a day from COVID-19, Saxitoxin, a well respected conquer club forum poster, pivots and switches to blaming Democrats rather than baiting EU sympathisers!

[mrswdk]

It's ridiculous how weak the federal government in the US is. Judging by the US response to COVID-19, which appears to basically be every state doing its own thing while the federal government sends people some ventilators and holds some press conferences, the US federal government seems to be more like a European Union with its own army than the typical government of a nation state? Hence its inability to marshal any coherent national response to COVID-19.

Is that what freedom looks like according to the US constitution? Anarchy?

[2dimes]

That actually is part what makes the US&A so great.

You can live in a place where they have lots of oppression rules like California, or you can live in a place like Tennessee, where no one tells you how to live.

In some places the fire department won't put out your house fire unless you have a paid subscription with them for services.

Most of those states are united right in the middle of North America.

[mrswdk]

In some places the fire department won't put out your house fire unless you have a paid subscription with them for services.

You're right that does sound great.

[2dimes]

It's not my thing but, some people don't like paying taxes for a public fire department run by local government to protect your mansion, while they live in a tar paper shack.

[HitRed]

The trees are still
Not even the leaves move
Ice frozen
Like the economy

[jimboston]

In some places the fire department won't put out your house fire unless you have a paid subscription with them for services.

You're right that does sound great.

So Firemen and Firewomen shouldn’t get paid?

What’s the difference between the Government collecting taxes and paying the Fire Dept. or the Fire Dept. charging a fee/subscription?

You think it’s better for the Gov’t to FORCE people to pay at gunpoint (or threat of jail)... versus a free association of people agreeing to do it without coercion?

You can make an argument that in an. urban area... where one house-fire can spill over and burn down a whole block... that maybe it should be a mandatory requirement for choosing to live in said urban area. That’s not the case where 2dimes is talking... in that case your house may be miles from other houses... so there’s no threat to other people if your house catches fire. There an INDIVIDUAL can choose to pay for emergency services (or not). He may make an economic decision, similar to deciding to buy an extended warranty or not.

Perhaps you think Home Depot should require all people buying washers to buy also an extended warranty?

[mrswdk]

Yeah jim, we already agreed. The best form of government is to have no government, just a bunch of people who all collectively decide to help each other voluntarily.

"The society which organizes production anew on the basis of free and equal association of the producers will put the whole state machinery where it will then belong—into the museum of antiquities, next to the spinning wheel and the bronze ax."

[2dimes]

There you go.

A country where both Jim and Jonesthecurl can live and be happy seems better to me than home of the ram.

house may be miles from other houses...

Actually Jim, in the story that I learned about the thing in. The fire fighters showed up plenty fast to protect the house next door that belonged to one of their members. Unfortunately, the non-member's house burned to ashes.

I have never seen private services beat the pricing of government stuff run at cost. Dispite all the lazy over paid Union employees. My least favorite example is our provincial government selling the electrical generation. Sigh

[jonesthecurl]

As USA posts a record setting 1000 deaths a day from COVID-19, Saxitoxin, a well respected conquer club forum poster, pivots and switches to blaming Democrats rather than baiting EU sympathisers!

Saxi should be careful as he dashes around the playing field here - the ground is full of holes from where the goalposts used to be.

[jimboston]

Yeah jim, we already agreed. The best form of government is to have no government, just a bunch of people who all collectively decide to help each other voluntarily.

"The society which organizes production anew on the basis of free and equal association of the producers will put the whole state machinery where it will then belong—into the museum of antiquities, next to the spinning wheel and the bronze ax."

You’re playing USSR... but that’s more synonymous with your favorite place... China.

A world with no government and people just living in harmony would be nice... not practical I realize, but we can dream.

You’re dream world is some world government that controls every aspect of your life. So fun.

[jimboston]

There you go.

A country where both Jim and Jonesthecurl can live and be happy seems better to me than home of the ram.

house may be miles from other houses...

Actually Jim, in the story that I learned about the thing in. The fire fighters showed up plenty fast to protect the house next door that belonged to one of their members. Unfortunately, the non-member's house burned to ashes.

I have never seen private services beat the pricing of government stuff run at cost. Dispite all the lazy over paid Union employees. My least favorite example is our provincial government selling the electrical generation. Sigh

In Mass. most people have private electricity... but some towns have Municipal Energy Plants. Some are well run and some are not.

Electricity generation and transmission even when private is highly subsidized and uses public land for the poles and such... it’s impractical with today’s technology to be a entirely private without some sort of gov’t regulation.

[saxitoxin]

U.S. Drops in Per Capita Death Rankings as Austrian, Swedish, Irish, Portuguese Fatalities Surge
Observers Agree It's a Good Thing for Duk He Was Too Scared to Take Saxi's Bet

☠☠☠ Deaths Per Million ☠☠☠
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/

1. Europe - Italy: 230 -> Bloomberg reports post-apocalyptic-type street gangs now roving through Southern Italy.
2. Europe - Spain: 216
3. Europe - Belgium: 89
4. Europe - Netherlands: 78
5. Europe - Switzerland: 61
6. Europe - France: 60
7. Europe - Luxembourg: 49
8. Europe - United Kingdom: 43
9. Iran: 39
10. Europe - Sweden: 28
11. Europe - Denmark: 21
12. Europe - Portugal: 20
13. Europe - Ireland: 20
14. Europe - Austria: 18
15. USA: 16
...
192. Tanzania: 0

Thank you, President Trump, for Making America Safe(r than Europe) Again!

[Lootifer]

Don't worry Saxi, you guys will catch up - daily reporting is literally based on the world spinning!

Also I think turning this shit into a game/race is abhorrent, just for the official records.