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the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby armati on Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:01 pm

This is the major reason why the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy — and why any ‘news’-site which calls the U.S. a ‘democracy’ is thereby clearly demonstrating its untrustworthiness. But, of course, only honest news-reporting organizations are publishing this report. And there will probably be very few that will do that, though all are receiving it for publication.

Why Only Fools Trust America’s Mainstream ‘News’ Media After the 2003 Invasion of Iraq

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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby waauw on Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:16 am

Politicians lie, that's not that unusual, but that doesn't make the US a dictatorship. One can perfectly be democratic with lying politicians. That being said, I agree one can put question marks next to american democracy considering they allow corporations to finance election campaigns. In most western nations this is outlawed and considered corruption.

Now, obviously corruption happens in every country, but having a system that considers this legal is unsettling.
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby warmonger1981 on Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:01 am

I thought after 1871 the United States became a corporation. At least that's what the conspiracy is.
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby armati on Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:09 am

I recall something about that, a fellow on another blog Im on mentions that.

Personally, I have no doubt the U.S. is a dictatorship and not a democracy, I agree with Twain, "If voting mattered they wouldn't let ya do it."

In the article I posted they discuss how they know the U.S. is not a democracy from what the media does, there are other ways of seeing it tho.

The constitution says congress gets an opinion about war, in reality? nope, not required.
Seeing the constitution no longer exists is another way.

Carlins famous quote "ya,you got a right, the right to right this way"
Americans are deluded if they believe they have rights etc etc

Was just an article I found interesting.
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby tzor on Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:22 pm

armati wrote:This is the major reason why the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy —


First of all, it's a "Democratic Republic" not a "Democracy."
Second the mainstream media has been filtering news that doesn't suit its agenda for as long as there was a media.

Here is a good example. The Holocaust, which was actively suppressed by the New York Times during the war, would have probably never been reported on at all until Eisenhower practically forced them to cover it, document and photograph everything.

But I'm not sure how we get to political bias in news reporting to the notion that the US is a dictatorship.
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby 2dimes on Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:08 pm

I'm pretty sure propaganda started when guys figured out how to smash berries and draw on rocks.
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby armati on Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:50 pm

2 dimes, absolutely.

Tzor, thats why ya read the article I guess.

I could be wrong about the meeting, but there was a meeting in 1913 at jekyl island, thats the meeting Wilson betrayed he country and allowed the federal reserve. Some people argue thats what he was made president for, that and the war of course.

In any case, that may have been the meting they decided (they=bankers in this case) to find out the cost of buying every newspaper in the country, they couldnt believe how cheap it was and its been the same owners ever since.

I think that was Jekyl Island, books are written about it.
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby armati on Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:58 pm

Not telling people about the "hollocaust" might have had something to do with the american public liking nazis, recall Prescot Bush made millions working with them and his son and grandson both became president.

Liking nazi stuff was far from frowned upon.

High Quality Video of American Nazi Rally, 20,000 Strong, in Madison Square Garden, NYC, 1939
America is definitely less free than it was in 1939.
Great pics below the video.
https://russia-insider.com/en/high-qual ... 39/ri26366

I posted this on another thread but it does make the point here as well.

People are never told about stuff like this, which is another clue we are a dictatorship and not a democracy.
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby karel on Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:12 am

TRUMP 2020 BABY,KEEPING AMERICA OUT OF BAT SHIT CRAZY SOCIALIST'S
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:35 am

waauw wrote:That being said, I agree one can put question marks next to american democracy considering they allow corporations to finance election campaigns. In most western nations this is outlawed and considered corruption.


That just means in most western nations it occurs out of sight of the public.

    In May 2007, Nicolas Sarkozy was elected President of France in a six-point victory over Ségolène Royal. Sarkozy officially spent €21 million on his campaign. The size of the campaign spend, relative to those seen in United States elections, prompted French scholar Sophie Meunier to later declare that "French politicians are, therefore, not enslaved to special interests or Super-PACs as they are in the U.S."

    The following October, the claim of Libyan funding of Sarkozy's 2007 election campaign was repeated by former Libyan prime minister Baghdadi Mahmudi. Investigative website Mediapart subsequently published several documents appearing to prove a payment of €50 million, and also published a claim by Ziad Takieddine that he had personally handed three briefcases stuffed with cash to Sarkozy. French magistrates later acquired diaries of former Libyan oil minister Shukri Ghanem in which payments to Sarkozy were mentioned. Shortly thereafter, however, Ghanem was found dead, floating in the Danube in Austria and thereby preventing his corroboration of the diaries.

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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:05 am

armati wrote:Not telling people about the "hollocaust" might have had something to do with the american public liking nazis, recall Prescot Bush made millions working with them and his son and grandson both became president.

Liking nazi stuff was far from frowned upon.

High Quality Video of American Nazi Rally, 20,000 Strong, in Madison Square Garden, NYC, 1939
America is definitely less free than it was in 1939.
Great pics below the video.
https://russia-insider.com/en/high-qual ... 39/ri26366

I posted this on another thread but it does make the point here as well.

People are never told about stuff like this, which is another clue we are a dictatorship and not a democracy.


Less free in 1939? Tell that funny story to Black folks in the former Confederacy.
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:08 am

karel wrote:TRUMP 2020 BABY,KEEPING AMERICA OUT OF BAT SHIT CRAZY SOCIALIST'S



Yay! Karel is back! We need more real patriotic Americans like him!
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby warmonger1981 on Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:48 am

Freedom is in the eyes of the beholder. Just because you walk around does not mean that you are free. And just because a man is behind bars does not mean he is in prison. Perception creates reality.
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:51 am

warmonger1981 wrote:Freedom is in the eyes of the beholder. Just because you walk around does not mean that you are free. And just because a man is behind bars does not mean he is in prison. Perception creates reality.


Yes it does! Like if you have a cellmate in prison and you close your eyes and imagine a hot chick going down on you.....does not make you gay, amirite?
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby armati on Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:09 am

"Less free than in 1939? Tell that funny story to Black folks in the former Confederacy.'

Thats a good point. Then again freedom could be in the eye of the beholder.
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:03 pm

You mean thru the blue eyes of a white male?
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby tzor on Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:10 pm

armati wrote:Not telling people about the "holocaust" might have had something to do with the american public liking nazis, recall Prescot Bush made millions working with them and his son and grandson both became president.


No it had little to do with the "american public." The early 21st century progressive / socialist movement was through the intellectuals, not the masses. History gets somewhat whitewashed after the second world war but "eugenics" was a common theme among progressives at the time. It was the United States who had adopted the purity laws (the Jim Crow laws) that even the Germans found too excessive. It was George Bernard Shaw in the UK that not only encouraged the killing of the unfit but also who was the first to propose lethal gas as a humane way of doing so.

The second world war was a battle between three different sects of the same philosophy (and one small island nation that longed to be a colonial empire again). One of those nations literally abandoned its "ideals" because capitalism promised to make a whole lot of tanks really fast. Another just relied on the fact that you really have to be a moron to invade them and actually win. (And they literally starved an entire nation to death diverting that nation's food to themselves but they won so let's forget about that part.)

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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby armati on Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:15 pm

Tzor, so the nazi 1930s rallys in the states are not mentioned today due to "The early 21st century progressive / socialist movement was through the intellectuals, not the masses."?

Well, maybe, but Im gonna continue to think tptb just dont mention it in hopes it gets forgotten.

Really, the last thing ya want the public knowing is the U.S. made bazzillions working with the nazis, bayer made the zyclon for example,it was used on the arizona boarder before the war, prescott worked with nazi financial backers, his kids become prez and MANY nazis are moved to the states at the end of the war.

Heck, Germany had to declare war on the states to get them involved. dum move really.

American people dying never stands in the way of profit for american corporations. Especially the mic.


All wars are bankers wars, Smedly Butler. highest decorated u.s. marine general up to the time of publication.

Im gonna continue to think, thats what tptb dont want people knowing.

Bit of a rant- like post. :D
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby armati on Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:23 pm

Bernie

maga, means good times for white people.

Personally, I know of no time the U.S. was "great", luved Vegas tho.
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby tzor on Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:00 pm

armati wrote:Tzor, so the nazi 1930s rallys in the states are not mentioned today ...


There are a lot of thing we just don't mention anymore because we rather not remember them.

But the American Nazi Party was at best a fringe party. There were about 20,000 at the rally at Madison Square Garden in 1939. That sounds like a lot but the KKK had a "picnic" in New Jersey with the same number, which was right after the famous “Klanbake” 1924 Democratic Party National Convention.

armati wrote:Heck, Germany had to declare war on the states to get them involved. dum move really.


20th century USA didn't like war. Isolationism was common. Woodrow Wilson had to outright lie to get his second term as president and then went against his promise to get America into the Great War. It took Pearl Harbor for FDR to get a good reason to get us into the war.
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby armati on Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:06 pm

20k probly wasnt alot, I think the point is more that nazi was a legitimate politiacl party in the states at the outbreak of the war.

Dont know if you ever read, but the best spy network at the time was stalins, even british royalty was involved.
neat stories with that.

It was stalins spies that efed up and made the americans realize they had no nukes. just funny.
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:09 pm

tzor wrote:which was right after the famous “Klanbake” 1924 Democratic Party National Convention.


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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:13 pm

armati wrote:20k probly wasnt alot, I think the point is more that nazi was a legitimate politiacl party in the states at the outbreak of the war.

Dont know if you ever read, but the best spy network at the time was stalins, even british royalty was involved.
neat stories with that.

It was stalins spies that efed up and made the americans realize they had no nukes. just funny.


They were a legitimate party in a two party system? So they were on the ballot right next to the Dems and Reps eh? How many national elections did they win? How about state level elections?

I think by the standard you are setting, the United States Pirate Party is also currently a legitimate party in today's US politics. here's a fun link so you can read up and maybe join - https://blog.pirate-party.us/about/
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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby armati on Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:07 pm

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Re: the United States is a dictatorship, not a democracy

Postby karel on Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:16 pm

we are a free country as long as we keep pound the pricks from the left into the ground,everytime they say a word they should be given a fine
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