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[iAmCaffeine]

This player won some matches that I don’t think P@Pa would typically play, but it seems like everyone says it’s obviously P@Pa.

I can see some differences in the writing style, but a lot of the same tendencies are indeed showing up. This doesn’t automatically mean P@Pa is back && that our clan had anything to do with it.

There is no way of us knowing this guy was P@Pa if that is actually a true thing... imagine P@Pa coming to one of us and saying “guys I just really love Antarctica and want to invitd the best players to play and I’m also going to send out a bunch of pms regarding the selected...”
I doubt there is even one of us that would support this — especially when the player also wants to play games with TOPers as well ... wtf kind of alias is that?

It’s baffling to me how you guys think we arranged these things

I don't think anyone is saying players from TOP arranged this. I have no doubt however, that Paul made a return and certain members of TOP, at some point, became aware of it.

[macken]

This player won some matches that I don’t think P@Pa would typically play, but it seems like everyone says it’s obviously P@Pa.

I can see some differences in the writing style, but a lot of the same tendencies are indeed showing up. This doesn’t automatically mean P@Pa is back && that our clan had anything to do with it.

There is no way of us knowing this guy was P@Pa if that is actually a true thing... imagine P@Pa coming to one of us and saying “guys I just really love Antarctica and want to invitd the best players to play and I’m also going to send out a bunch of pms regarding the selected...”
I doubt there is even one of us that would support this — especially when the player also wants to play games with TOPers as well ... wtf kind of alias is that?

It’s baffling to me how you guys think we arranged these things

I don't think anyone is saying players from TOP arranged this. I have no doubt however, that Paul made a return and certain members of TOP, at some point, became aware of it.

But you said this:

Hmm... how can we, at TOP, know this wasn't all a ploy from the opposition to rise a spout? That this wasn't the rest of the community conspiring against us with a fake "busted" P@P account... Someone who happened to be a rising star 19 year old, talented risk virgin, who also happened to be looking for wise, big dicked, skilled members of our clan to take him in?

Hmm.... let me scratch my balls a little more pondering the complexities

This wasn’t posted by FF123.

and now FF are banned... And he wrote it ...

[FreeFalling123]

No, I'm unbanned... I think KA believed I let my account get hacked by Paul, but I don't know that Paul had my pw at all?

I don't understand what tools are being used place right now, but Paul has said he isn't Gabe and he hasn't accessed my account, so this is all madness... I'm pretty sure my IP address should be clearly mine, since I've been located in the twin cities for the majority of the last 10 years?

[iAmCaffeine]

I said it half seriously because of what was posted, and half jokingly just to trigger responses. I think we already covered in this thread between FF123 and myself that it was more of a joke than anything. I'm not sure why you're bringing it up again.

[nietzsche]

I trust FF's word, and I don't know Magnus but he always seems like a good guy, so i trust his word too.


I think the only one we need to punish now is macken, i've never trusted the spanish.

[KraphtOne]

I'm just glad that these allegations of cheating and abuse were moved out of the cheating and abuse forums...

God damned moron administrators...

[FreeFalling123]

LOL well when Paul says it isn't him and KA says it was him, we are all a little confused at TOP -- Caff

and nietz, aww that's nietz of you... I actually trust Mack more than I trust myself most of the time

If Gabe was Paul, then we disown him, but if not, whoever this Gabe could have possibly been, then this was an amazingly unfortunate event. I believe KA is pretty confident Gabe = Paul. Since Paul tell me it's not him I hope we give this Gabe guy a chance if he does try to plead his case...

I know I tried to contact the best players on the site multiple times when I arrived on the scene. Because of this, I think it is unlikely that Paul would take a route like this in pursuing mentorship (especially as a ploy to keep himself out of sight?).

Anyway, it all seems super strange...

[TeeGee]

I have only just skimmed through all this, will go through it later today when i have time.
I just want to set the record clear on this.

ToP as a clan is INNOCENT of any involvement in the situation here.
ToP members were very forward and helpful with information regarding this situation.
ToP handled this very professionally and any further accusations against them without proof are likely to bring a trolling charge against you.

[nietzsche]

pfft like anyone respects TG.

I'll shut up when KA or Duk ask me to.

[Jdsizzleslice]

pfft like anyone respects TG.

I'll shut up when KA or Duk ask me to.

He isn't telling you to shut up...

[zeus111]

I have only just skimmed through all this, will go through it later today when i have time.
I just want to set the record clear on this.

ToP as a clan is INNOCENT of any involvement in the situation here.
ToP members were very forward and helpful with information regarding this situation.
ToP handled this very professionally and any further accusations against them without proof are likely to bring a trolling charge against you.

what steps did you take to make the above statement ....pls share with us all the work u have done to come up with that conclusion ..may help ppl here to understand

zeus111

[TeeGee]

I have only just skimmed through all this, will go through it later today when i have time.
I just want to set the record clear on this.

ToP as a clan is INNOCENT of any involvement in the situation here.
ToP members were very forward and helpful with information regarding this situation.
ToP handled this very professionally and any further accusations against them without proof are likely to bring a trolling charge against you.

what steps did you take to make the above statement ....pls share with us all the work u have done to come up with that conclusion ..may help ppl here to understand

zeus111

I'm sorry, when did you become a site admin? They are who I answer too. If you want to know the ins and outs of C&A consider joining the team.

[zeus111]

I have only just skimmed through all this, will go through it later today when i have time.
I just want to set the record clear on this.

ToP as a clan is INNOCENT of any involvement in the situation here.
ToP members were very forward and helpful with information regarding this situation.
ToP handled this very professionally and any further accusations against them without proof are likely to bring a trolling charge against you.

what steps did you take to make the above statement ....pls share with us all the work u have done to come up with that conclusion ..may help ppl here to understand

zeus111

I'm sorry, when did you become a site admin? They are who I answer too. If you want to know the ins and outs of C&A consider joining the team.

to make those statements u surely must have done due diligent s on the matter .. this is public forum isnt it ??? no time for cc admin but i will say this ..if a mod is friends with an accused another should be looking into the matters that have conflict of interests ...u cant come in a public forum infactly state tops innocents with out doing the leg work to back that up .....but as u put it u dont have to answer ...what a joke

[TeeGee]

um exactly who am I friends with? You haven't done any groundwork, all you have done is pretty much opened you proverbial online mouth and dribbled .......


A public forum? Last I looked it was privately owned. We have 100% control on who can and can't post.

[zeus111]

um exactly who am I friends with? You haven't done any groundwork, all you have done is pretty much opened you proverbial online mouth and dribbled .......


A public forum? Last I looked it was privately owned. We have 100% control on who can and can't post.

ok so its do as i say not as i do here good to know but i have given alot of support to cc club like for example provided over 50 premimum memberships over 8 ys on here plus help create the best tournament on the site .... i can see by the attitude u feel this is your site your way or high way ...ok now its been said its not public forum ill just fade away no loss here ...why waste time helping a site remove the cheaters to be treated in this manner ...its mods like u with a real shit attitude a wee bit of power on a site with zero real life consequence who have killed a once great site .......so glad u cleared that up ...and bet ya 1 dollar to your 1000 u did shit to look into a thing ex i sent u a pm showing how to see threw a vpn to date zero response .. but hey didnt realize this was a private site tee gee s site more to the point ......again what a joke feel free to ban away could care a less .

[macken]

I trust FF's word, and I don't know Magnus but he always seems like a good guy, so i trust his word too.


I think the only one we need to punish now is macken, i've never trusted the spanish.

How to catalog this type of thoughts?

By the way, if you are Mexican, you may have Spanish blood in your veins and in a large part of your family. If you have problems with them, do not charge them against another.

Generalize by millions because you want think that, puff,... but I do not care. gl friend

[zeus111]

@ macken i tried to help answer your questions here its gone crazy in this one ..it really shouldn't matter what race anyone is... to answer your initial question top clan cleared as no evidence was submitted to substantiate the claim ... best of luck in all

[Keefie]

Zeus, I can see that you're just trying to help. But telling the C&A and multi hunter guys how to do their jobs really is like teaching your grandmother how to suck eggs.

[Donelladan]

I trust FF's word, and I don't know Magnus but he always seems like a good guy, so i trust his word too.


I think the only one we need to punish now is macken, i've never trusted the spanish.

How to catalog this type of thoughts?

By the way, if you are Mexican, you may have Spanish blood in your veins and in a large part of your family. If you have problems with them, do not charge them against another.

Generalize by millions because you want think that, puff,... but I do not care. gl friend

You aren't a regular forum user I guess. nietzsche is 100% joking. don't read anything written by nietzsche seriouly, everyone reading the forum regularly know that.
Consider him like a clown or a fool.


@zeus11, I think you do not know who TeeGee is.
TeeGee is in no way friend with TOP. TeeGee is a member of CC team with full knowledge of what happens. He is one of the few people you should trust here.

[zeus111]

Zeus, I can see that you're just trying to help. But telling the C&A and multi hunter guys how to do their jobs really is like teaching your grandmother how to suck eggs.

i was not telling him how to do his job he posted so admittedly that top was not involved were so many think they were he was asked straight forward what steps he took to come to that conclusion in hopes to put this issue to bed .. but clearly teegee did not feel he had to ....Online bullies are silencing inspired voices here more so then most sites ...as it was put this is a private site that chooses who may or may not speak ....this statement teegee made just makes me laugh ...true as it may be there is no need for a public forum if thats the case. i did glance threw the site rules and dam if i could not find the section on were we can discuss cc club issues or who can or cant speak in them .....ill be sure to check them again ,,why have our members post in any forum if this is the manner they are treated ..


@ don i never said teegee was friends with top m8 just that in a c$a forum if a mod sees a m8 accused probably best to let another deal with that issue .....as for teegee don lets just agree to disagree ......


zeus111

[macken]

@zeus

I understand that someone can express himself inappropriately at some point, there is no acrimony for it, only understanding on my part.
I appreciate your critical voice and your defense of legality.
For that very reason, one has to defend against undeserved attacks too.
They are two faces of the same coin.

My words have gone in that direction, try to clarify the facts and comments for anyone have doubts.

Most of the comments of those who participated have been with good intentions, both those who doubted and those who contributed their opinion.

[zeus111]

@zeus

I understand that someone can express himself inappropriately at some point, there is no acrimony for it, only understanding on my part.
I appreciate your critical voice and your defense of legality.
For that very reason, one has to defend against undeserved attacks too.
They are two faces of the same coin.

My words have gone in that direction, try to clarify the facts and comments for anyone have doubts.

Most of the comments of those who participated have been with good intentions, both those who doubted and those who contributed their opinion.

it seems best here we all just move on i looked into this issue and one comment by a member found in game chat was all i could find that would suggest top members guilt and it was weak at best ,,,i feel very strongly about cheating and would go out of my way to catch them but like i said theres just nothing i could find that suggested there guilt ,,,,,,i stated my opinion earlier and still feel the same ....heres the quote im speaking of



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Re: PaulatPeace is back as Gabriels Hammer [tg]

Postby ZaBeast on Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:50 pm
I wasn't there when P@P was but I find this line in Game 18528728 weird.

Well, I see the whole gang is here! Nice to meet you brothers. gl


It was right after MG said

Salut Omega Brothers! BOLA & 4EVER!! '')>

but still... Kinda weird to say for a 3-week old account.

in the above statement by gabe it suggests the whole gang is here as we now know he was in fact pap and the gang he speaks of is top clan .....like i said weak ayt best to try and prove they knew it was pap

[FreeFalling123]

Zeus, there is no reason to antagonize TG...

He has probably talked with other mods
I still think it's unbelievable P@P would play a game with swimma, but either way -- we have to accept Paul as Gab, so why can't you accept that TOP members as innocent... we have no fear of self-incrimination in this situation and try to help the mods, so what's the real issue here ?

All I see is a bunch of bandwagoners trying to start something out of nothing... can someone tell me what we did wrong?

[zeus111]

[quote="FreeFalling123"]Zeus, there is no reason to antagonize TG...

He has probably talked with other mods
I still think it's unbelievable P@P would play a game with swimma, but either way -- we have to accept Paul as Gab, so why can't you accept that TOP members as innocent... we have no fear of self-incrimination in this situation and try to help the mods, so what's the real issue here ?

All I see is a bunch of bandwagoners trying to start something out of nothing... can someone tell me what we did wrong?[/quote

it was suggested that top members not only new gabes identity but tried to reunite him with the top clan it was posted in the c$a forum and closed very fast as there was no evidence put forward so to answer your question nothing well nothing that can be proven at this point ...not pissing on teeges corn flakes just thought if he had info on the issue like what steps he took to surmise the comments he made regarding top s innocents would help clear this up and clear the thoughts so many have myself included ..

[Extreme Ways]

For all TOP members that had good intent and were gullible/believed that GH was truly a new player...

If you have doubts about a player, simply have them checked out to be sure they are not a multi. Doesnt have to be Paul's multi, you just dont want to be caught in controversy. Some time ago, Leroy Gibbs joined TOFU with <50 games completed because his amazing strategic skill. Do you think we never had him checked? Some players are just inherently suspicious. I think Magnus knows the best way to do this quietly in your ranks.