The State of Clans

Post by **Keefie** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:45 am

I got thinking, after hearing this week about the demise of another long term clan. What is the current state of the clan world we all love ? We can all go to the Clan Tab and take a look at a clan and think, wow they've got 34 players they must be doing just fine. The reality is that they only have 14 of 15 active players and no active leader.

Take HH, we currently have 21 players on the books. In reality we have 13 premium and 4 freemium members who I can call on. We are in the process of recruiting (something that is also becoming harder)

So I thought I'd take the pulse of the clan world by way of a traffic light system

Green = Strong = 20+ Active Members and strong leadership
Amber = Stable = 15 to 19 Active Members and strong leadership
Yellow = Vulnerable = Under 15 Active Members and strong leadership
Red = Critical = Less than 15 Active members and/or weak inactive leadership *

* Clans with 15 or over active members but who have weak/inactive leaders should rate themselves as red.

I'll kick off by rating HH as Amber

InnyaFacce · Post by **InnyaFacce** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:23 am

TANK SQUAD = RED + CRITICAL
Once the current Clan War is complete
TANK SQUAD will NO LONGER EXIST AS A COMPETITIVE CLAN

Extreme Ways · Post by **Extreme Ways** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:03 pm

You can ask JBlombier to verify this for me, but VDLL is critical (red). Players are hard to come by and leadership wanted to quit being leadership due to RL a long time ago, but no replacement was found. So VDLL's existence and activity is completely tied to JB's involvement and JB is oftentimes busy because his RL situation is just busy by default.

TOFU would be green.

Post by **IcePack** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:15 pm

Keefie wrote:Green = Strong = 20+ Active Members and strong leadership

FALL is Green

Post by **shoop76** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:24 pm

According to your criteria we are

Yellow = Vulnerable = Under 15 Active Members and strong leadership

But I would not consider us to be vulnerable. We have always preferred to stay small and when someone leaves we have been able to replace them.

riskllama · Post by **riskllama** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:37 pm

which clan recently packed it in?

iAmCaffeine · Post by **iAmCaffeine** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:55 pm

I think Amber doesn't need to be at risk, more like just cruising.

Post by **Keefie** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:56 pm

riskllama wrote:which clan recently packed it in?

I know the clan in question don't want it made public yet, but I guess with people like you around that doesn't stand much chance.

iAmCaffeine · Post by **iAmCaffeine** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:03 pm

Keefie wrote:
riskllama wrote:which clan recently packed it in?

I know the clan in question don't want it made public yet, but I guess with people like you around that doesn't stand much chance.

riskllama · Post by **riskllama** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:33 pm

yup, found out...

Post by **shoop76** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:38 pm

Just added 2 members so now we are

Amber = At Risk = 15 to 19 Active Members and strong leadership

riskllama · Post by **riskllama** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:27 pm

Keefie wrote:
riskllama wrote:which clan recently packed it in?

I know the clan in question don't want it made public yet, but I guess with people like you around that doesn't stand much chance.

maybe next time just pm the clan leaders instead of making a thread for all to see, eh? took me like 10 minutes to find out . food for thought, you old fishwife...

betiko · Post by **betiko** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:47 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:I think Amber doesn't need to be at risk, more like just cruising.

wut? you are foed?

didn't follow much recent events... so for some reason aeternus died, you started a new clan instead of reviving aeternus and now you are a foed member?

i thing LHDD is green, didn't count the active members but it should be around 25-18

Mad777 · Post by **Mad777** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:12 pm

betiko wrote:...i thing LHDD is green, didn't count the active members but it should be around 25-18

I want to agree with this, despite we may have few member that only play few games they are somewhat active, I would call LHDD Green

Mad777 · Post by **Mad777** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:15 pm

riskllama wrote:
Keefie wrote:
riskllama wrote:which clan recently packed it in?

I know the clan in question don't want it made public yet, but I guess with people like you around that doesn't stand much chance.

maybe next time just pm the clan leaders instead of making a thread for all to see, eh? took me like 10 minutes to find out . food for thought, you old fishwife...

Why always there is a llama’s trolling post? Perhaps you could come up with your Clan data [RGV]? The point of this topic wasn’t really about the mysterious Clan Keefie was talking about but more about the health of the active Clan... ](*,)

BabySasuke · Post by **BabySasuke** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:36 pm

im not in a position to say properly but id say TOP

iAmCaffeine · Post by **iAmCaffeine** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:38 pm

betiko wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:I think Amber doesn't need to be at risk, more like just cruising.

wut? you are foed?

didn't follow much recent events... so for some reason aeternus died, you started a new clan instead of reviving aeternus and now you are a foed member?

i thing LHDD is green, didn't count the active members but it should be around 25-18

Aeternus/Ascension are doing fine, I just moved on.

JPlo64 · Post by **JPlo64** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:29 pm

Keefie wrote:I got thinking, after hearing this week about the demise of another long term clan. What is the current state of the clan world we all love ? We can all go to the Clan Tab and take a look at a clan and think, wow they've got 34 players they must be doing just fine. The reality is that they only have 14 of 15 active players and no active leader.

Take HH, we currently have 21 players on the books. In reality we have 13 premium and 4 freemium members who I can call on. We are in the process of recruiting (something that is also becoming harder)

So I thought I'd take the pulse of the clan world by way of a traffic light system

Green = Strong = 20+ Active Members and strong leadership
Amber = At Risk = 15 to 19 Active Members and strong leadership
Yellow = Vulnerable = Under 15 Active Members and strong leadership
Red = Critical = Less than 15 Active members and/or weak inactive leadership *

* Clans with 15 or over active members but who have weak/inactive leaders should rate themselves as red.

I'll kick off by rating HH as Amber

FOED is definitely Green

Like some have said, you dont need 20+ to consider yourself Healthy. I think calling Amber = "At Risk" Is inaccurate. I would call Amber = "Steady"
Then Yellow = At RIsk/Vulnerable, kinda the same thing.

Honestly, I think it would be more accurate to have separate ratings for active players and leadership for each clan.

Post by **Caymanmew** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:54 pm

shoop76 wrote:According to your criteria we are

Yellow = Vulnerable = Under 15 Active Members and strong leadership

But I would not consider us to be vulnerable. We have always preferred to stay small and when someone leaves we have been able to replace them.

I agree with this. To add we are not having a hard time finding people. We really do want to stay small. If we wanted i believe we could get ourselves to green within 2 weeks without hurting ourselves much.

Post by **Caymanmew** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:10 pm

Keefie wrote:I got thinking, after hearing this week about the demise of another long term clan. What is the current state of the clan world we all love ? We can all go to the Clan Tab and take a look at a clan and think, wow they've got 34 players they must be doing just fine. The reality is that they only have 14 of 15 active players and no active leader.

Take HH, we currently have 21 players on the books. In reality we have 13 premium and 4 freemium members who I can call on. We are in the process of recruiting (something that is also becoming harder)

So I thought I'd take the pulse of the clan world by way of a traffic light system

Green = Strong = 20+ Active Members and strong leadership
Amber = At Risk = 15 to 19 Active Members and strong leadership
Yellow = Vulnerable = Under 15 Active Members and strong leadership
Red = Critical = Less than 15 Active members and/or weak inactive leadership *

* Clans with 15 or over active members but who have weak/inactive leaders should rate themselves as red.

I'll kick off by rating HH as Amber

Are you actually having a hard time recruiting? ATL has also been recruiting and has had no problems. I might be able to offer some advice if you guys are having a hard time finding people.

Cayman

iAmCaffeine · Post by **iAmCaffeine** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:39 pm

Depends on the calibre of player you're recruiting.

Post by **Caymanmew** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:01 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:Depends on the calibre of player you're recruiting.

Sure, There is not a lot of top talent but there are tons of guys who would fit very well into a clan ranked 10-15. All you'd have to do is know where to look for them and how to approach them.

Post by **Keefie** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:20 pm

caymanmew wrote:
Are you actually having a hard time recruiting? ATL has also been recruiting and has had no problems. I might be able to offer some advice if you guys are having a hard time finding people.

Cayman

Thanks for the kind offer, but I think we might just manage :lol:

Post by **Caymanmew** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:36 pm

Keefie wrote:
caymanmew wrote:
Are you actually having a hard time recruiting? ATL has also been recruiting and has had no problems. I might be able to offer some advice if you guys are having a hard time finding people.

Cayman

Thanks for the kind offer, but I think we might just manage

But my advice is perfect. Go through this list of players and you'll find some great ones. Every player i have recruited is on this list.

iAmCaffeine · Post by **iAmCaffeine** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:12 am

caymanmew wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:Depends on the calibre of player you're recruiting.

Sure, There is not a lot of top talent but there are tons of guys who would fit very well into a clan ranked 10-15. All you'd have to do is know where to look for them and how to approach them.

Seems like you’re catching up.