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Postby Kernal_Kronic on Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:06 am

Ok, i've started reading the thread again & i'm only on page 10 (i think) & i'm going on lunch soon but i did find some scummish(?) posts & here they are...

These are a few bandwagon posts:

1. Bandwagon voting for a player just because he's never heard of them.

Alexwales93 wrote:
nagerous wrote:unvote vote danodukebb who is that????? he still hasn't spoken either


Never seen him play Mafia before...

Got to agree with you there.

Unvote

Vote danodukebb


2. Anybody who even played 1 game of mafia knows that bandwagon voting is scummy, which Alex points out but he continues to bandwagon

firth4eva wrote:
nagerous wrote:bandwagon much? I was just making a point..


fine then

unvote

im pretty new to mafia games so the only thing i really know is that we need a lynch


Alexwales93 wrote:
firth4eva wrote:i am no scum.
i am just a n00b.
check my other mafia games.

pancakes newbie mafia and simpsons mafia.


I've picked the game up pretty quickly, winning 2 out of 4 RT Mafia games that I have played in so far,those where my first games aswell, and in the first game I was end-gamed, I never band-wagoned without a reason.

I think for now, there are buigger leads out there, so...

Unvote


3. and then something I saw that nagerous pointed out as well

nagerous wrote:
Avron wrote:FOS everyone thats bandwaggoing.

Vote firth4eve or bandwagoning.



Avron wrote: Unvote
Vote haoala
thats one of the scummiest things I've ever heard, explain yourself.




hmmm fos Avron for voting someone for bandwagonning then bandwagoning himself for repeating xencobra's assertion almost word for word


and then Alex jumps on the bandwagon again...
Alexwales93 wrote:Vote Haoala

Just watching, and hopping thta you can jump on a bandwagoon to get a quick lynch is very scummy indeed.


So, i'll give a FOS Avron & firth

vote Alexwales93 you seem the scummiest from the 1st 10 pages & you haven't posted in quite a while (correct me if i'm wrong because i haven't re read the last 10 pages ). You laying low while the witch hunt continues?
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Postby nagerous on Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:19 am

Talapus wrote:
nagerous wrote:I have reread and I have a gut feeling that talapus is scum.

He quickly and suddenly hammered the guy who was claiming Dumbledore, cop and dredged up the incident yesterday regarding me which had already been cleared up (as subtlety as possible) and said something along the lines: "if mandy is wrong we lynch him tomorrow" which was not a good idea as I now have confidence in his pro-towness.

vote talapus



You sir, are an idiot. There was noting quick about my voting for Haoala. I posted numerous suspicions and ideas, and was watching him long before I voted for him. Yet with all that, many other players came on and said 1, maybe 2 things and voted for him as well after I had said my 2 cents(Yes, I'm implying you need to read what happened at the beginning of the day, not just my post at the end). Just because I finally voted for him which was the lynch, don't lie and said I did it quickly. Pull your head out of your ass and reexamine the evidence! It's all there, whether you choose to read it or not.

I've had numerous arguments with you before in other games and can't quite tell if you just have it out for me, or you think I'm a threat. Either way, please read everything I post before you post garbage like this. You should know by now I won't go down without a fight, and I actually examine ALL the evidence before posting. Not just the evidence I want to interpret.

In all the mafia games I've played, I've never lied when roleclaiming. I won't role claim yet because it's very dangerous to do with so many players. But for right now I will tell you I am pro-town...

As for still having my suspicions against you and mandy. Yes, they are still there. You both argued well, and even though I'm not sure I believe your "clues", you aren't the guiltiest looking players. So, I've dropped it. You should do the same and look at other things!




relax, theres no need to suggest that I am an "idiot" or "have my head up my ass". I also don't have any vendettas against any players, I always vote for people I think appear most scummy and in this case, I re-read the thread and I thought it was you. Maybe you appear scummy to me in every game just by the way you naturally play, I don't know but I work on instinct. Theres no need to be abusive when someone accuses you, after all we're here to have fun and play a game, its not meant to be too serious. I will drop my accusations for now unvote. I agree with KK alex appears scummy, hes also gone quiet so I will wait to hear from him.
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Postby Talapus on Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:34 am

Alex should be mod killed...He's been MIA for 5 days now and it's not just here.

nagerous, I'm not trying to be abusive or mean, I do however get upset with players who make assumptions based off of one quote or another...We are a few day into this game, and there is more to go off of for evidence then just one post.

As for unvoting me, that's great. But I don't want you to unvote me just because I argue back. I love playing the mafia games here and if you think I'm the guiltiest looking player by all means vote for me. It's a part of the game. I just think you should have a reasoning to back it up. I fully expect to have you argue back as well if you believe your point is valid. I respect your opinion as a player, but don't think I'll sit idily by whilst you try to paint a less then balanced picture of the facts... :wink:
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Postby for dummies on Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:19 am

Talapus wrote:
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Has anyone thought of the possability that Mandy is a lyncher with nag as his lynchee target? I really dont' have enough evidence to vote on him Mandy.

Posted: 06 Jun 2007 14:42 by FOS Dummies Post subject:
yeah i do want a role claim. i want you to prove to me that you aren't scum. and yes when you claim i want a characters name. anyone can say i am (doctor) or (cop). it is harder to make up a character name from HP to fit the role. that way your HP name can help verify your claim or it can help expose its falseness. therefore if you want to survive today i want your claim and your name


That sure didn't help on day 1 by lynching the cop even after he gave name and profession in the game. Vote FOS Dummies for pushing for role claims AGAIN


There are quite a few players I have my eye on right now, but for dummies is by far the guiltiest looking one in the game. Twice he's pushed for roleclaims and so far looks as though he plans to continue. I'm not the only one who's noticed(see above quote), but he still looks guilty.

Also, he's not the only person to push for role claims, but he does it in such a way that it strikes me as odd.

Throughout most of the reasons he's provided, I find myself believing him less and less. And now, we have this little pearl of wisdom:


for dummies wrote:after our long and invigorating battle yesterday i am inclined to believe nagerous. therefore Vote talapus. i sincerely hope you are right sir


WHY?!?! Why believe him? That's your reason for voting me? That's not really a reason at all, and it explains nothing. I don't trust you. You push the wrong players too hard and you don't provide enough evidence to back it up. It almost seems as though you are trying to side with whoever appears to be winning the arguement at the time so you can coast through this game without being noticed. Well dummies....I noticed, and I don't like it!

So,

Vote - - - for dummies



why believe him? well lets see...hmmm...well he claimed a role and at this point in time i believe him. also no one has refuted the role yet. that might just be because of the nature of is role, i don't know. but you have given me no evidence to think that you are town. i understand that dumbledore looked scummy but after a big claim like that you should always wait longer, see if there is a counterclaim, or something. even if he has looked scummy all game you can't just drop the hammer right away. and also you say i have been pushing for claims all game. well yes that's true. if someone is at lynch -1 or -2. i want a calim so that if they are really pro town they won't be hammered. i expect that after the claim it will be discussed and we will decide as a town if we believe it or not. if we don't we lynch them, if we do then we go after someone else. that is another of my main problems with you droping the hammer on dumbledore, you didn't let anyone else talk. there were around 4 of you talking for a period of time then you hammered him. the rest of us didn't have time to get a word in edgewise. and that in short is why i think you are scum.

Oh yeah also because your vote on me was of the "OMGUS" variety.
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Postby Talapus on Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:52 am

for dummies wrote:why believe him? well lets see...hmmm...well he claimed a role and at this point in time i believe him. also no one has refuted the role yet. that might just be because of the nature of is role, i don't know. but you have given me no evidence to think that you are town. i understand that dumbledore looked scummy but after a big claim like that you should always wait longer, see if there is a counterclaim, or something. even if he has looked scummy all game you can't just drop the hammer right away. and also you say i have been pushing for claims all game. well yes that's true. if someone is at lynch -1 or -2. i want a calim so that if they are really pro town they won't be hammered. i expect that after the claim it will be discussed and we will decide as a town if we believe it or not. if we don't we lynch them, if we do then we go after someone else. that is another of my main problems with you droping the hammer on dumbledore, you didn't let anyone else talk. there were around 4 of you talking for a period of time then you hammered him. the rest of us didn't have time to get a word in edgewise. and that in short is why i think you are scum.

Oh yeah also because your vote on me was of the "OMGUS" variety.


Nothing personal, but I would sincerely hope no one does refute the claim for awhile because that could be bad for us. It's already been stated that whoever Voldemort is either missed the clue or is being blocked because if nags claim is accurate...nothings happened too him yet. But we certainly don't need to paint a bulls eye on the real target yet.

Also, I've already discussed "dropping the hammer right away" in the above posts between myself and nagerous. If you paid attention, you would see that isn't exactly what happened. But it's ok, interpret the evidence the way you want and ignore the other players who just popped in to vote. :roll:

In fact, I could tear your whole arguement apart. It's all been discussed and I explained my actions rather well. You however push too hard, too fast. You've posted maybee 15-17 times the whole game and 5 of those times you've mentioned:

for dummies wrote:yeah well we still have some time before the deadline. i would say no one else should vote for him until he claims. oh and by the way when you claim we will want a chracter role (cop, dr.) and a name(harry potter, snape). We can use the names to examine the viability of your claim.


for dummies wrote:i believe mandy. he is an experienced player and i don't think he would stick his head out this far without solid proof (investigation perhaps?). of course if he is wrong. then we can just lynch him. also even though nagerous claimed a power role i want a real claim before i even think of letting him off the hook. to this point in time his defense has been: " waah waah don't vote for me, he has no evidence" wel i think he must have evidence and so far you have givven me no evidnce that you aren't scum. to that effect:

Vote: nagerous

for dummies wrote:yeah i do want a role claim. i want you to prove to me that you aren't scum. and yes when you claim i want a characters name. anyone can say i am (doctor) or (cop). it is harder to make up a character name from HP to fit the role. that way your HP name can help verify your claim or it can help expose its falseness. therefore if you want to survive today i want your claim and your name.


for dummies wrote:what is your reasoning dustn64. what brings you to the conclusion that you should vote for mandy.

and nagerous, i saw your little clues, but i didn't like them. i want a role claim or my vote stays


for dummies wrote:yeah guess why it didn't help. because people kept votinf even after they heard his name and role. i already got on the offending party's in that case. it was totally stupid. this time i hope there will be less stupidity we can discuss the role claim and its validatiy and go from there



Hmmm....notice a common theme in your posts :? ...Not the smartest way to play. My vote for you stands, and unless someone steps up and convinces me you are a valuble player for the town, it won't change.
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Postby Kernal_Kronic on Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:24 am

Talapus wrote:Alex should be mod killed...He's been MIA for 5 days now and it's not just here.

...
hmm, could this be why the night phase was so long? Tal, were you having trouble getting hold of ur scum buddies to discuss who to kill? j/k

Mod, any chance you can see what's happening to Alex, i don't want to waste a vote on somebody who could be modkilled / replaced? Avron also hasn't posted in a while
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Postby Talapus on Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:37 am

Kernal_Kronic wrote:
Talapus wrote:Alex should be mod killed...He's been MIA for 5 days now and it's not just here.

...
hmm, could this be why the night phase was so long? Tal, were you having trouble getting hold of ur scum buddies to discuss who to kill? j/k

Mod, any chance you can see what's happening to Alex, i don't want to waste a vote on somebody who could be modkilled / replaced? Avron also hasn't posted in a while


I mod killed him in my game, but did get a response by PM. Also, he's stopped doing anything in the mafia game he's modding....I don't know what's up, but I wouldn't my vote for him...
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Postby Kernal_Kronic on Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:58 am

Well i'll hold off on my vote on Alex for now unvote...so it's a toss up between firth & Avron but i'll wait for some defence from the 2 of them :-k
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Postby Fircoal on Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:37 am

Well I think that Talapus isn't scum, and that his claim is true. He didn't bring down the hammer right away. Though I think Hoala claimed cop before that. But I'm not sure.
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:55 am

Tal while FOS has acted scummy with those posts, he isn't scum in my opinion. Right now I do believe there are bigger fish to catch than to pursue someone that is being a knucklehead, but isn't really scum.

Unvote Mod can you get a replacement for Alex as we had a few deaths with the first lynch never using his cop power and luna also being lynched as a plain townie either of them would be able to come into this game without prior knowledge.
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Postby firth4eva on Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:12 pm

now im really confused.

FOS mandy and nagerous for the voldemort thing

FOS Alex for bandwagoning and submarining.

FOS for dummies for all the roleclaiming
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Postby pancakemix on Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:26 pm

Vote Replace Inactives. We need people who will actually communicate and not just sit around. Some, like Avron and Alex, have disappeared completely.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:14 pm

pancakemix wrote:Vote Replace Inactives. We need people who will actually communicate and not just sit around. Some, like Avron and Alex, have disappeared completely.


Seconded.

Firth: I understand your reasoning about my fight with nagerous. But, the only way of proving you wrong would be via lynch. I am not willing to lynch nagerus, who IMO stands about 50 % chance of being HP just to set your mind ate ease. :wink:
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Postby firth4eva on Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:17 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Vote Replace Inactives. We need people who will actually communicate and not just sit around. Some, like Avron and Alex, have disappeared completely.


Seconded.

Firth: I understand your reasoning about my fight with nagerous. But, the only way of proving you wrong would be via lynch. I am not willing to lynch nagerus, who IMO stands about 50 % chance of being HP just to set your mind ate ease. :wink:


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Postby mandalorian2298 on Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:25 pm

firth4eva wrote:
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pancakemix wrote:Vote Replace Inactives. We need people who will actually communicate and not just sit around. Some, like Avron and Alex, have disappeared completely.


Seconded.

Firth: I understand your reasoning about my fight with nagerous. But, the only way of proving you wrong would be via lynch. I am not willing to lynch nagerus, who IMO stands about 50 % chance of being HP just to set your mind ate ease. :wink:


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Postby gimpyThewonder on Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:21 pm

Freezie - i'd like to sub if the 1 person i investigated happens to be killed
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Postby wiggybowler on Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:18 pm

There was something mentioned earlier that would let you know that for dummies is not a mafia member. Trust me I know, he just hasnt played the smartest. Bloody hell
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Postby freezie on Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:08 am

Luna : Dustn64.

I saw him playing, I dont want to have him as a sub right now.


Gimpy, Sorry. Maybe later..but.


Haoala, no thanks.


But yes I am thinking on replacing alex. Seeking a replacement right now.
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Postby XenCobra on Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:38 am

I havent been posting much, because my exams are tomorrow and I wont be able to catch up until friday.
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Postby for dummies on Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:28 am

talapus half my posts with the words role claim in them are in response to people like you. pushing for role claims in the middle of the day is one thing, because that is scummy. bnut asking for a claim when someone is at lynch -1 or -2 is not. as i have said many times a claim can help save a townie or finish off a bad lying scum. I am not sure how many times i have to say it to guys who keep jumping on me for it. when someone is about to be lynched then they should claim. thats all i will say on the subject for the rest of the game.
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Postby Kernal_Kronic on Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:03 am

Mod, has Avron been prodded or is he submarining?

I don't really think for dummies role pushing is that scummy. People can just make up a name & a role that could fit.

Right now i'm heading for a vote firth

Your post don't really help much, you repeat other people's suspicions & the FOS'ing Mandy & nag for something that was cleared up long ago just seems...scummy :?

It could change though to Avron because i think he is scummier right now, but i'll wait for the Mod to find out what the story is...
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Postby Talapus on Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:05 am

Kernal_Kronic wrote:Mod, has Avron been prodded or is he submarining?

I don't really think for dummies role pushing is that scummy. People can just make up a name & a role that could fit.

Right now i'm heading for a vote firth

Your post don't really help much, you repeat other people's suspicions & the FOS'ing Mandy & nag for something that was cleared up long ago just seems...scummy :?

It could change though to Avron because i think he is scummier right now, but i'll wait for the Mod to find out what the story is...


Avron's disappeared in other games as well, not just here. I don't think he'll back any time soon. freezie will take care of it, but Idon't think we need to think he is submarining, I think he's just gone.
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Postby Kernal_Kronic on Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:33 am

Okay, well then my vote stays...There are a few people who don't seem scummy at all & then there's some that i'm not quite sure about :-k
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Postby wiggybowler on Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:03 am

Didn't anyone else think it was a little weird that nagerous and mandy made a comment about one of them being hp when L.V is still about.
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Postby firth4eva on Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:35 am

wiggybowler wrote:Didn't anyone else think it was a little weird that nagerous and mandy made a comment about one of them being hp when L.V is still about.


thats what i was trying to say.
Why risk the whole game by saying you are HP?
they are both too experienced to do this.

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