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Re: syria
Syria is not worthy a lot for US and Russians need only its coastline. There will be no WW3 because of Syria any time soon.Dukasaur wrote:Thank you, sir.armati wrote:Pentagon says Syria strikes are 'one time shot' to send strong message to Assad From RT
You could be right Duk, "He has to bomb something to show what a big alpha male he is, but after the dust settles Assad and Putin will go back to business as usual"
I sure hope so.
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Isaiah 17
A prophecy against Damascus:
“See, Damascus will no longer be a city
but will become a heap of ruins.
The cities of Aroer will be deserted
and left to flocks, which will lie down,
with no one to make them afraid.
The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim,
and royal power from Damascus;
the remnant of Aram will be
like the glory of the Israelites,”
declares the Lord Almighty.
“In that day the glory of Jacob will fade;
the fat of his body will waste away.
It will be as when reapers harvest the standing grain,
gathering the grain in their arms—
as when someone gleans heads of grain
in the Valley of Rephaim.
Yet some gleanings will remain,
as when an olive tree is beaten,
leaving two or three olives on the topmost branches,
four or five on the fruitful boughs,”
declares the Lord, the God of Israel.
In that day people will look to their Maker
and turn their eyes to the Holy One of Israel.
They will not look to the altars,
the work of their hands,
and they will have no regard for the Asherah poles
and the incense altars their fingers have made.
In that day their strong cities, which they left because of the Israelites, will be like places abandoned to thickets and undergrowth. And all will be desolation.
You have forgotten God your Savior;
you have not remembered the Rock, your fortress.
Therefore, though you set out the finest plants
and plant imported vines,
though on the day you set them out, you make them grow,
and on the morning when you plant them, you bring them to bud,
yet the harvest will be as nothing
in the day of disease and incurable pain.
Woe to the many nations that rage—
they rage like the raging sea!
Woe to the peoples who roar—
they roar like the roaring of great waters!
Although the peoples roar like the roar of surging waters,
when he rebukes them they flee far away,
driven before the wind like chaff on the hills,
like tumbleweed before a gale.
In the evening, sudden terror!
Before the morning, they are gone!
This is the portion of those who loot us,
the lot of those who plunder us.
“See, Damascus will no longer be a city
but will become a heap of ruins.
The cities of Aroer will be deserted
and left to flocks, which will lie down,
with no one to make them afraid.
The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim,
and royal power from Damascus;
the remnant of Aram will be
like the glory of the Israelites,”
declares the Lord Almighty.
“In that day the glory of Jacob will fade;
the fat of his body will waste away.
It will be as when reapers harvest the standing grain,
gathering the grain in their arms—
as when someone gleans heads of grain
in the Valley of Rephaim.
Yet some gleanings will remain,
as when an olive tree is beaten,
leaving two or three olives on the topmost branches,
four or five on the fruitful boughs,”
declares the Lord, the God of Israel.
In that day people will look to their Maker
and turn their eyes to the Holy One of Israel.
They will not look to the altars,
the work of their hands,
and they will have no regard for the Asherah poles
and the incense altars their fingers have made.
In that day their strong cities, which they left because of the Israelites, will be like places abandoned to thickets and undergrowth. And all will be desolation.
You have forgotten God your Savior;
you have not remembered the Rock, your fortress.
Therefore, though you set out the finest plants
and plant imported vines,
though on the day you set them out, you make them grow,
and on the morning when you plant them, you bring them to bud,
yet the harvest will be as nothing
in the day of disease and incurable pain.
Woe to the many nations that rage—
they rage like the raging sea!
Woe to the peoples who roar—
they roar like the roaring of great waters!
Although the peoples roar like the roar of surging waters,
when he rebukes them they flee far away,
driven before the wind like chaff on the hills,
like tumbleweed before a gale.
In the evening, sudden terror!
Before the morning, they are gone!
This is the portion of those who loot us,
the lot of those who plunder us.
It's funny because claiming any city will die or any kingdom will fall seems like a safe bet to make. 2700 years and counting on this particular prophesy.
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Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)
China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti 2004 *
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009 *
Libya 2011 *
Syria 2012
Ukraine 2014 *
Ya I know, nazi kgb, alien, propoganda.
China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti 2004 *
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009 *
Libya 2011 *
Syria 2012
Ukraine 2014 *
Ya I know, nazi kgb, alien, propoganda.
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Pretty good record. Yay America.
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Abby Martin Exposes Zionism & Israel on Joe Rogan Podcast (Strong Language)
https://youtu.be/rBRxt5ufnGg
Heres your nazis for ya neotenyahoo.
https://youtu.be/rBRxt5ufnGg
Heres your nazis for ya neotenyahoo.
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So do those five "theys / theirs" refer to five different things? Like the Welsh, Australians, Polish, Chilean and Canadian?
Interesting massive overgeneralization....nice.
Interesting massive overgeneralization....nice.
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I'm still trying to work it out exactly who pulls the strings and tells you what to think. None membership of the IMF is definitely dangerous though. Self sufficient countries must be changed.KoolBak wrote:So do those five "theys / theirs" refer to five different things? Like the Welsh, Australians, Polish, Chilean and Canadian?
Interesting massive overgeneralization....nice.
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No over generalization.
"they" refers to us, the west, the United States and their vassals.
So yes,
"Like the Welsh, Australians, Polish, Chilean and Canadian? "
You only need inform yourself to find that is exactly the case.
For example, first from your list, Welsh (my father born in Cardiff) their (meaning the welsh) leader being Theresa May
accuses the Russians without evidence.
Swiss lab says ‘BZ toxin’ used in Salisbury, not produced in Russia, was in US & UK service
Published time: 14 Apr, 2018 14:37
Sergei Skirpal and his daughter Yulia
Oh my goodness, our government lied to us, who would have thought that possible?
Chemical weapons investigation team arrives in Damascus – OPCW
Published time: 14 Apr, 2018 12:42
Edited time: 14 Apr, 2018 14:54
early Saturday, April 14, 2018, odd, the investigation didnt begin until sunday the 15th.
The missle attack was on the 14th. hmmmmm
We (meaning us, the west) wouldnt do anything without evidence would we?
oops, ya I guess we(meaning us, the west) do exactly that.
I could go down the rest of your list with examples but really, if you want to inform yourself you will.
You havnt so I doubt your actually interested anyway.
Your right Ram, they (meaning us) will do anything not only to get rid of Assad but to force their (meaning us) will anywhere around the world.
I wont point out or detail the depravity, there are kids on this site.
Even the truth of what we do might be too much, especially for base brats etc.
I simply figure people have the right to truth, a balancing act I guess.
"they" refers to us, the west, the United States and their vassals.
So yes,
"Like the Welsh, Australians, Polish, Chilean and Canadian? "
You only need inform yourself to find that is exactly the case.
For example, first from your list, Welsh (my father born in Cardiff) their (meaning the welsh) leader being Theresa May
accuses the Russians without evidence.
Swiss lab says ‘BZ toxin’ used in Salisbury, not produced in Russia, was in US & UK service
Published time: 14 Apr, 2018 14:37
Sergei Skirpal and his daughter Yulia
Oh my goodness, our government lied to us, who would have thought that possible?
Chemical weapons investigation team arrives in Damascus – OPCW
Published time: 14 Apr, 2018 12:42
Edited time: 14 Apr, 2018 14:54
early Saturday, April 14, 2018, odd, the investigation didnt begin until sunday the 15th.
The missle attack was on the 14th. hmmmmm
We (meaning us, the west) wouldnt do anything without evidence would we?
oops, ya I guess we(meaning us, the west) do exactly that.
I could go down the rest of your list with examples but really, if you want to inform yourself you will.
You havnt so I doubt your actually interested anyway.
Your right Ram, they (meaning us) will do anything not only to get rid of Assad but to force their (meaning us) will anywhere around the world.
I wont point out or detail the depravity, there are kids on this site.
Even the truth of what we do might be too much, especially for base brats etc.
I simply figure people have the right to truth, a balancing act I guess.
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@Ram
"I'm still trying to work it out exactly who pulls the strings and tells you what to think"
Its a story, I like to begin in 1815, at the battle of waterloo.
You can start sooner, but what I believe the trurning point was or when the power was finally grasped happened at that point.
Look to who bought the bank of englands bonds, follow his sons to the federal reserve 100 years later after repeated attempts.
first world war and the balfour declaration 1907, jekyl island 1910, federal reserve 1913.
2nd war and detruction of secret societies., oss,Eisenhowers warning, 1951 aipac,jfks murder.
Of course its all a kgb,nazi,long headed or grey alien conspiracy, but its all there, its all connected, the information can be found by anyone that looks.
Who is pulling the strings? Some people will tell you its Jesus.
Well, he did warn us.
"I'm still trying to work it out exactly who pulls the strings and tells you what to think"
Its a story, I like to begin in 1815, at the battle of waterloo.
You can start sooner, but what I believe the trurning point was or when the power was finally grasped happened at that point.
Look to who bought the bank of englands bonds, follow his sons to the federal reserve 100 years later after repeated attempts.
first world war and the balfour declaration 1907, jekyl island 1910, federal reserve 1913.
2nd war and detruction of secret societies., oss,Eisenhowers warning, 1951 aipac,jfks murder.
Of course its all a kgb,nazi,long headed or grey alien conspiracy, but its all there, its all connected, the information can be found by anyone that looks.
Who is pulling the strings? Some people will tell you its Jesus.
Well, he did warn us.
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I find it interesting that you are more willing to trust an unsubstantiated report by a politician from Russia than a report by a politician from England.armati wrote: Swiss lab says ‘BZ toxin’ used in Salisbury, not produced in Russia, was in US & UK service
Published time: 14 Apr, 2018 14:37
Sergei Skirpal and his daughter Yulia
Oh my goodness, our government lied to us, who would have thought that possible?
Russians lie as a way of life. They are corrupt from bottom to the top and proud of it. This isn't even about the Russian government. Russians only know how to lie. That's why it's scary that the entire Canadian government computer programs have been written by Russians.
Anyways, it's a smoke and mirrors show. Even if some trace amounts of BZ toxin were used, Lavrov admitted that the main findings of the report were the main agent was Novichuk. He says that part of the report is a lie, but the trace amount of BZ is the truth... which doesn't make sense. If parts of the report was fabricated, why wouldn't they get rid of all the contrary evidence? So he is using the parts of the report that he wants and totally ignoring the main findings (according to his own words which can't be believed because he isn't supposed to have even seen the confidential report). This is exactly how the fake news machine works.
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Did you believe Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, Russians invaded Crimea,Gaddafi was a bad guy.?......
Its not that Im prepared to believe a Russian politician before I believe our government, its simply I dont believe a word of what the west governments say. Soooo, I would believe anyone before western politicians.
I can tell when theyre lying because their lips move.
Russians lie as a way of life, ok, let me remind you, be careful dealing with the police in N America.
Lawyers in N America have a bit of a reputation.
You can not go into court with your eyes closed.
Try recovering cash from a deal gone bad, courts are made for people that lie, its as if you lose if you tell the truth.
As Danny Davito says "swearing on the bible means they gotta believe you."
When the Russians repeatedly ask for an investigation, I tend to believe they would like to see an investigation.
You didnt find it odd we knew beyond doubt it was Russia before an investigation?
Standard procedure, bomb syria without facts as well.
We bomb and kill anyone we want and have done so for decades, longer actually.
Ask the natives if our government can be believed.
We dont need no stinky facts or truth.
Just gets in the way.
The first casualty of war is truth.
Its not that Im prepared to believe a Russian politician before I believe our government, its simply I dont believe a word of what the west governments say. Soooo, I would believe anyone before western politicians.
I can tell when theyre lying because their lips move.
Russians lie as a way of life, ok, let me remind you, be careful dealing with the police in N America.
Lawyers in N America have a bit of a reputation.
You can not go into court with your eyes closed.
Try recovering cash from a deal gone bad, courts are made for people that lie, its as if you lose if you tell the truth.
As Danny Davito says "swearing on the bible means they gotta believe you."
When the Russians repeatedly ask for an investigation, I tend to believe they would like to see an investigation.
You didnt find it odd we knew beyond doubt it was Russia before an investigation?
Standard procedure, bomb syria without facts as well.
We bomb and kill anyone we want and have done so for decades, longer actually.
Ask the natives if our government can be believed.
We dont need no stinky facts or truth.
Just gets in the way.
The first casualty of war is truth.
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I knew it was Russia before the attack even happened, so I don't find it weird at all. You probably don't understand the world of espionage, but it's a lot thicker than it used to be in the cold war era. Something like 1 out of 10 passports in the world are fake. The proliferation is due to all the varying spy agencies around the world constantly making new ones. It's not like any of the major espionage players are in the dark about different activities. They are all spying on and counterspying each other to epic proportions. It's like when Trump kicked the Seattle diplomats out. They've probably known they were spies forever but they just let them continue to do their spying because it's easier than trying to stop it.armati wrote:Did you believe Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, Russians invaded Crimea,Gaddafi was a bad guy.?......
Its not that Im prepared to believe a Russian politician before I believe our government, its simply I dont believe a word of what the west governments say. Soooo, I would believe anyone before western politicians.
I can tell when theyre lying because their lips move.
Russians lie as a way of life, ok, let me remind you, be careful dealing with the police in N America.
Lawyers in N America have a bit of a reputation.
You can not go into court with your eyes closed.
Try recovering cash from a deal gone bad, courts are made for people that lie, its as if you lose if you tell the truth.
As Danny Davito says "swearing on the bible means they gotta believe you."
When the Russians repeatedly ask for an investigation, I tend to believe they would like to see an investigation.
You didnt find it odd we knew beyond doubt it was Russia before an investigation?
Standard procedure, bomb syria without facts as well.
We bomb and kill anyone we want and have done so for decades, longer actually.
Ask the natives if our government can be believed.
We dont need no stinky facts or truth.
Just gets in the way.
The first casualty of war is truth.
You might be thinking "surely frame jobs happen all the time, its the Brits framing the Russians". That does happen quite a bit, (but most agencies prefer to make deaths look accidental or natural). That just isn't the case here. The only thing possibly going on under the covers is that MI6 allowed the attack and obviously they can't let that leak out. This actually seems like the true story. This kind of attack is common, but this public response to it is rare. It's also possible that it was just a media good-luck story that the government had to react and that they didn't know the attack was coming.
Why would anyone allow the Russians in on the investigation? If the mob boss demanded that the police give him reports of any investigations into his activities, would the police comply?
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warmonger1981
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mrswdk wrote:https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aN1w5r0_460swp.webp
Chuckles.
Has anyone looked into the Russians who were poisoned? Why would Russia have such an interest in killing them? Why is this guy wanted dead so bad that Russia would use a nerve agent in a foreign country to kill them and not a more traditional method? Seems odd to me. Inquiring minds want to know.