CLAN EVENT TROPHY CASE

Post by **IcePack** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:22 pm

Clan Realms @ War:
CR@W: the Bannermen (2017): TOFU Phase 2 Runner Up:

Post by **IcePack** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:39 pm

Added:

MC3 (2017): OSA (runner up: FALL)

GoranZ · Post by **GoranZ** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:34 pm

betiko wrote: Clan Realms @ War:
CR@W: the Bannermen (2017): TOFU Phase 2 Runner Up:
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How come the Bannermen is included in standard clan events when it has nothing in common with others?
Example... In the Bannermen you can have unequal number of home and away games... something that is against the rules for any other standardized clan event.
Thus you cant brag that you are better when you can have 6:1 ratio in home vs away. Map usage is also another thing that cant fit in any other standardized clan event.
Not to mention that the event is heavily rigged by other bugs as well.

Conclusion, the Bannermen is quite unstandardized event that has absolutely nothing in common with standardized clan events.

So how can standardized events be counted in the same way as unstandardized?

iAmCaffeine · Post by **iAmCaffeine** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:27 pm

I don't see why it's an issue. Each event is separate and shows the winners / runners up for each year. If there was some kind of standing for whoever has the most trophies and it included an event like CR@W then I'd agree.

Post by **IcePack** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:43 pm

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GoranZ wrote:
betiko wrote: Clan Realms @ War:
CR@W: the Bannermen (2017): TOFU Phase 2 Runner Up:
__________________________
How come the Bannermen is included in standard clan events when it has nothing in common with others?
Example... In the Bannermen you can have unequal number of home and away games... something that is against the rules for any other standardized clan event.
Thus you cant brag that you are better when you can have 6:1 ratio in home vs away. Map usage is also another thing that cant fit in any other standardized clan event.
Not to mention that the event is heavily rigged by other bugs as well.

Conclusion, the Bannermen is quite unstandardized event that has absolutely nothing in common with standardized clan events.

So how can standardized events be counted in the same way as unstandardized?

You can’t compare CR@W to other standard events. It’s not a standard event. This isn’t a trophy case for standard events, just showcasing the winners of past clan events.

rockfist · Post by **rockfist** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:53 am

GoranZ wrote:
Thus you cant brag that you are better when you can have 6:1 ratio in home vs away.

You really think that matters home versus away????

GoranZ · Post by **GoranZ** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:56 pm

rockfist wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
Thus you cant brag that you are better when you can have 6:1 ratio in home vs away.
You really think that matters home versus away????

Do you really think that I would waste time to write something that I don't think that matters? Or you are trying to be "smart"?

IcePack wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
betiko wrote: Clan Realms @ War:
CR@W: the Bannermen (2017): TOFU Phase 2 Runner Up:
__________________________
How come the Bannermen is included in standard clan events when it has nothing in common with others?
Example... In the Bannermen you can have unequal number of home and away games... something that is against the rules for any other standardized clan event.
Thus you cant brag that you are better when you can have 6:1 ratio in home vs away. Map usage is also another thing that cant fit in any other standardized clan event.
Not to mention that the event is heavily rigged by other bugs as well.

Conclusion, the Bannermen is quite unstandardized event that has absolutely nothing in common with standardized clan events.

So how can standardized events be counted in the same way as unstandardized?
You can’t compare CR@W to other standard events. It’s not a standard event. This isn’t a trophy case for standard events, just showcasing the winners of past clan events.

Then why enlisting it with other standard clan events. It is limited to 15 players(some clans can make 2-3 teams), the maps distribution is unfair(as long as you attack you can chose only one map for 10 times), home/away ratio is unbalanced. In fact I have problems figuring out which rules apply both on crow and in standard clan events.
If they are so much different why adding them on the same list?

Post by **IcePack** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:31 pm

It’s a list of clan event results. CR@W is a clan event.

betiko · Post by **betiko** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:45 pm

IcePack wrote:It’s a list of clan event results. CR@W is a clan event.

This.... there are even some assassin competitions, 1v1 and other stuff unrelated to regular clan stuff. This list is just here to remind us all the clan competitions since the start and their winners. A lot of competitions on that list are considered as questionable. But hey, if you don t like said competition, it s not like it s presented as equally important as some other stuff.

Post by **IcePack** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:48 pm

Something we can (should?) work on is linking all of those events to their parent threads, or finals threads or something. That would be a nice little add on to this list so you can easily navigate
through past clan events.

t4mcr53s2 · Post by **t4mcr53s2** » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:37 pm

GoranZ wrote:
betiko wrote: Clan Realms @ War:
CR@W: the Bannermen (2017): TOFU Phase 2 Runner Up:
__________________________
How come the Bannermen is included in standard clan events when it has nothing in common with others?
Example... In the Bannermen you can have unequal number of home and away games... something that is against the rules for any other standardized clan event.
Thus you cant brag that you are better when you can have 6:1 ratio in home vs away. Map usage is also another thing that cant fit in any other standardized clan event.
Not to mention that the event is heavily rigged by other bugs as well.

Conclusion, the Bannermen is quite unstandardized event that has absolutely nothing in common with standardized clan events.

So how can standardized events be counted in the same way as unstandardized?

heck if we want to list clan events that included assymmetric warfare for historic reasons, you might as well include the first two CC olympics (winks ingenuously)

Post by **IcePack** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:13 pm

Soon to be official:

CC7 (2017): KORT/S&M (runner up: FALL)

Post by **IcePack** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:34 pm

Someone want to do me an official favor for a project I have going on? Unfortunately I’m to far behind on other stuff to tackle this and need it sooner rather than later.

Clan Leagues - our OP here tracks 1st and 2nd.

Someone willing to research 3rd place and list them for me as well please?

Thanks!!! I might be able to drum up some credits or something for the assist

Swifte · Post by **Swifte** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:55 pm

IcePack wrote:Someone want to do me an official favor for a project I have going on? Unfortunately I’m to far behind on other stuff to tackle this and need it sooner rather than later.

Clan Leagues - our OP here tracks 1st and 2nd.

Someone willing to research 3rd place and list them for me as well please?

Thanks!!! I might be able to drum up some credits or something for the assist

Can look in to it tonight if it's not already done by then.

Post by **IcePack** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:04 pm

That would be great, thank you!

Swifte · Post by **Swifte** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:56 pm

In progress....

I have everything except that I will need to tally CL4 results as I do not see a final standings anywhere that is still functioning.
Note CL2 and CL3 had a bracket-style playoff for the finish, and no third place contest was played.. so I have listed the 2 losers of the semi-final.

betiko wrote:
Clan League (division 1):
CL1 (2009): THOTA (runner up: LOW) 3rd: TSM
CL2 (2010): LOW (runner up: BPB) 3rd/4th (semi-finalists in bracket): IA and KORT
CL3 (2012): IA (runner up: AOC) 3rd/4th (semi-finalists in bracket): TSM and KORT
CL4 (2013): KORT/S&M (runner up: PACK) 3rd: ???????
CL5 (2014): KORT/S&M (runner up: IA) 3rd: LOW
CL6 (2015): TOFU (runner up: ACE) 3rd: FALL
CL7 (2016): LHDD (runner up: FALL) 3rd: TOFU
CL8 (2017): KORT/S&M (runner up: TOP) 3rd: LHDD
CL9 (2018):
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Clan League (division 2):
CL1 (2009): no competition
CL2 (2010): TOFU (runner up: AOC) 3rd/4th (semi-finalists in bracket): DD and LOTZ
CL3 (2012): no competition
CL4 (2013): ID (runner up: TFFS) 3rd: ???????
CL5 (2014): ID (runner up: OSA ) 3rd: RA
CL6 (2015): LHDD (runner up: OSA ) 3rd: RGX
CL7 (2016): TOP (runner up: PACK) 3rd: ATN
CL8 (2017): LOW (runner up: GON) 3rd: HH
CL9 (2018):
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Clan League (division 3):
CL1 (2009): no competition
CL2 (2010): no competition
CL3 (2012): no competition
CL4 (2013): BOTFM (runner up: LEG) 3rd: ???????
CL5 (2014): AQOH (runner up: HH) 3rd: MD
CL6 (2015): SOH (runner up: ATL) 3rd: HH
CL7 (2016): no competition
CL8 (2017): no competition
CL9 (2018): no competition
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Post by **IcePack** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:48 pm

Notes: Wayback machine doesn't have RL1 or RL2 standings

*RL1 recalculated by IcePack FOED > DYN > MD (tied with MYTH but won by tie breaker)
*RL2 wayback doesn't work. links provided in thread doesn't work. games are all prior to database. Will have to manually search...

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Random League:
RL1 (2011): FOED (runner up: DYN) 3rd: MD
RL2 (2012): OSA (runner up: MD) 3rd:
RL3 (2013): LOW (runner up: TOFU) 3rd: FALL
RL4 (2014): ACE (runner up: FOED) 3rd: AFOS
RL5 (2015): OSA (runner up: FOED) 3rd: ACE
RL6 (2016): FOED (runner up: S&M) 3rd: FALL
RL7 (2017): OSA (runner up: S&M) 3rd: FALL
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Post by **IcePack** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:51 pm

EDITING

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Conquer Cup:
CC1 (2011): KORT/S&M (runner up: THOTA)
CC2 (2012): KORT/S&M (runner up: TSM)
CC3 (2013): TOFU (runner up: AFOS)
CC4 (2014): KORT/S&M (runner up: TOFU)
CC5 (2015): FALL (runner up: TOFU)
CC6 (2016): TOFU (runner up: FALL)
CC7 (2017): KORT/S&M (runner up: FALL)
CC8 (2018):
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Clan League (division 2):
CL1 (2009): no competition
CL2 (2010): TOFU (runner up: AOC)
CL3 (2012): no competition
CL4 (2013): ID (runner up: TFFS)
CL5 (2014): ID (runner up: OSA )
CL6 (2015): LHDD (runner up: OSA )
CL7 (2016): TOP (runner up: PACK)
CL8 (2017): LOW (runner up: GON)
CL9 (2018):
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Clan League (division 3):
CL1 (2009): no competition
CL2 (2010): no competition
CL3 (2012): no competition
CL4 (2013): BOTFM (runner up: LEG)
CL5 (2014): AQOH (runner up: HH)
CL6 (2015): SOH (runner up: ATL)
CL7 (2016): no competition
CL8 (2017): no competition
CL9 (2018): no competition
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Random Cup:
RC1 (2015): LHDD (runner up: FOED); LOW and RET
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Clan League Trophy:
CLT (2012): PIG (runner up: OTP)

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Mini-Cup
MC1 (2016): TOP (runner up: OSA )
MC2 (2016): FOED (runner up: PACK)
MC3 (2017): OSA (runner up: FALL)
MC4 (MWr2017):
MC5:
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Newcommer's Cup:
NC1 (2011): PACK (runner up: OSA )
NC2 (2012): GR (runner up: LHDD)
NC3 (2013): TNC (runner up: FALL)
NC4 (2014): LHDD (runner up: ATL)
NC5 (2015): ATN (runner up: KNT)
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POLY Challenge Event:
POLY (2017): FALL (runner up: TOFU)
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1 vs 1 Clan Challenge Event:
1v1 (2011): EMP (runner up: FOED)
1v1 (2012): EMP (runner up: KORT/S&M)
1v1 (2013): ACE (runner up: ID)
1v1 (2015): FOED (runner up: TNC)
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All Commers Cup:
ACC1 (2012): BOTFM (runner up: DYN)
ACC2 (2013): PIG (runner up: TFFS)
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Lx Handicup Event:
LHC (2014): MD (runner up: ID)
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TNC Assassin Clan Challenge:
TNCACC1 (2014): LHDD (runner up: ACE and VVV)
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Clan Realms @ War:
CR@W: the Bannermen (2017): TOFU Grand Champions!
CR@W: Homeworld (2018):
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iAmCaffeine · Post by **iAmCaffeine** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:53 pm

How come some clans have colours and some don't? Thanks for our lovely light lilac btw.

Also, it should be All Comers not All Commers.

rockfist · Post by **rockfist** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:57 pm

I think if you are currently active or appear enough times you get a color. If not, not so much.

iAmCaffeine · Post by **iAmCaffeine** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:15 pm

rockfist wrote:I think if you are currently active or appear enough times you get a color. If not, not so much.

I'm assuming it's if you have at least 2 achievements but I haven't exactly examined it.

Post by **IcePack** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:23 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:
rockfist wrote:I think if you are currently active or appear enough times you get a color. If not, not so much.
I'm assuming it's if you have at least 2 achievements but I haven't exactly examined it.

I don't know if there was ever a set "rule", it was just if there was multiples and we could add a color, we did.
The difficulty now is finding unique colors, but I haven't exactly spent a whole evening checking to make sure all available
ones were colored, or if there were more available colors.

Just did what I could for obvious ones, and moved onto the next thing on my task list.

benga · Post by **benga** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:03 pm

IcePack wrote:Notes: Wayback machine doesn't have RL1 or RL2 standings

*RL1 recalculated by IcePack FOED > DYN > MD (tied with MYTH but won by tie breaker)
*RL2 wayback doesn't work. links provided in thread doesn't work. games are all prior to database. Will have to manually search...

__________________________

Random League:
RL1 (2011): FOED (runner up: DYN) 3rd: MD
RL2 (2012): OSA (runner up: MD) 3rd:
RL3 (2013): LOW (runner up: TOFU) 3rd: FALL
RL4 (2014): ACE (runner up: FOED) 3rd: AFOS
RL5 (2015): OSA (runner up: FOED) 3rd: ACE
RL6 (2016): FOED (runner up: S&M) 3rd: FALL
RL7 (2017): OSA (runner up: S&M) 3rd: FALL
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so some results are wrong or?

Post by **IcePack** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:30 pm

benga wrote:
IcePack wrote:Notes: Wayback machine doesn't have RL1 or RL2 standings

*RL1 recalculated by IcePack FOED > DYN > MD (tied with MYTH but won by tie breaker)
*RL2 wayback doesn't work. links provided in thread doesn't work. games are all prior to database. Will have to manually search...

__________________________

Random League:
RL1 (2011): FOED (runner up: DYN) 3rd: MD
RL2 (2012): OSA (runner up: MD) 3rd:
RL3 (2013): LOW (runner up: TOFU) 3rd: FALL
RL4 (2014): ACE (runner up: FOED) 3rd: AFOS
RL5 (2015): OSA (runner up: FOED) 3rd: ACE
RL6 (2016): FOED (runner up: S&M) 3rd: FALL
RL7 (2017): OSA (runner up: S&M) 3rd: FALL
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so some results are wrong or?

No, I'm trying to find out which clans were 3rd place, etc. (or 3rd and 4th in brackets)
However, lot of the old links don't work anymore. Lot of old images are gone. So, for RL1 I had to go back to all the sets and calc the 3 points for each set win, 1 point for draw, etc and recreate the table so I could find out who was 3rd.

And this thread originally only tracked 1st and 2nd places, so it didn't have 3rds either.

betiko · Post by **betiko** » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:54 am

IcePack wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
rockfist wrote:I think if you are currently active or appear enough times you get a color. If not, not so much.
I'm assuming it's if you have at least 2 achievements but I haven't exactly examined it.
I don't know if there was ever a set "rule", it was just if there was multiples and we could add a color, we did.
The difficulty now is finding unique colors, but I haven't exactly spent a whole evening checking to make sure all available
ones were colored, or if there were more available colors.

Just did what I could for obvious ones, and moved onto the next thing on my task list.

Actually, since i did it myself i can answer.
Yes, i put colours to clans who had at least 2 nominations in the list.... and yes, at some point it was really hard to add colours that were not too close to other clan colours. I could barely see the difference between 2 similar blues if they weren t next to each other for example.

Anyways, i m glad to see that my list keeps being updated and that ice and swifte have added some extra work!

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