Zombie Mafia - (5/9 alive) Town/Survivor Win!

[DirtyDishSoap]

Can we prod the others to get more involved at this point?

[Ragian]

unvote vote DDS

I'd think it a sad precedent if we can just defer to former games when asked about anything. Apart from lurkers, DDS is the only contraproductive player I can see. That usually indicates scum.

@Mitch, I haven't said that I was against lynching Pika. Where do you get that from?

[ZaBeast]

Wow DDS actually voted for my 2nd lynch pick. That makes things interesting.

and your 1st pick is no lynch or you changed your mind?

Sure are dead set on getting me out of here Boobear.

I'd like to pressure at least someone, and I think I know who I'd like to start with...

Unvote Vote Pika - Maybe with enough votes we can incite some more actions with folks, get this game going, get these folks that normally provide a conversation...Actually provide conversation.

With a game with cult, I'd say you vote for lynching someone, not pressuring him (unless he reveals a really good role). Not a good idea to have many claims flying around when the PRs will most likely get recruited by cult.
Unvote vote DDS

FYI, he was at least pro-vote D1 in chess mafia though.

[BuJaber]

I wasn't counting no lynch as a pick actually.

So it goes no lynch then DDS then pika for me.
So I found it interesting that the guy I'm most likely to lynch if I have to is voting for 2nd guy I'm most likely to lynch.

[madmitch]

Well here is jumping on the wagon, let's see what info we get, it is hot on this roof and I am running out of cold beer ,also haven't shot any zombies yet. VOTE DDS

[Pikanchion]

Do does everybody have a role listed in the initial post?

Spoiler

Zombie Leader - 3p
-Chooses a target each night, target becomes infected OR killed (Mafia members can ONLY be killed)
-Players are NOT notified if they are infected, only when they become a zombie (the night after they are infected)
-ALL zombies visit target (but not each other)
-Zombies win if they have majority
-Dead Vanilla Zombies appear as "zombiefied (role)"

Zombie Hunter - 3p OR town
-Wins if Zombies are eliminated before they are (if 3p)
-Can track OR kill someone each night. (tracking reveals whom that person visited)

Lonely Survivor - 3p
-Wins if they survive until end of game

Suspicious Samurai - Town
-Can choose to be 'suspicious' each night
-If suspicious, visitors die

Party Host - Town
-Can throw a party once per game

Drunk - Town
-Can roleblock one person each night

Voodoo Lady - 3p
-Wins if living at end of game

Detective - Town
-Can question one person anonymously during the day

Cop - Town
- Can investigate one person per night
- Results come up as 'Town' 'Third-party' or 'Mafia'

Doctor - Town
-Can choose someone to save each night
-Protects only from one kill attempt per night
-If preventing Zombie Kill, 50% to still be infected

Mad Scientist - Town
-Researches every night.

[color=#FF0000]Thief - Mafia[/color]
-Steals things

Blacksmith - Town
-Makes vests and guns

Godafather - Mafia
-Investigative immunity (Comes up as town)
-Decides on mafia kills

Lackey - Mafia
-Carries out mafia kill
-Does not attend mafia Meetings
-Does not know mafia

Scout - Mafia
-investigate one person each night to recieve their role

Hooker - Mafia
-Chooses one person to rolebock each night

Suicide Bomber - Mafia
-Does NOT attend mafia meetings
-Likes Bombs

Klepto - 3p
-Collects items

Oracle - 3p
-A seer predicting the future
-Wins if Alive at the end of the game.

"Vanilla" Villagers(6) - Town
-Each has a hidden aspect (appear as villager to themselves)

-I would like a confirmation or denial from each player that their role appears on this list.

[ZaBeast]

Clearly not a good idea, pika. Somebody who says his name is not on the list just outed him as a PR (VTs are on the list)
Why did you want to know that?

unvote vote pika

[Pikanchion]

Clearly not a good idea, pika. Somebody who says his name is not on the list just outed him as a PR (VTs are on the list)
Why did you want to know that?

So... Yours isn't?

[ZaBeast]

I won't deny, nor confirm that

[Ragian]

I'm quite sure DDS is at L-2. Let's hear it.

[BuJaber]

I don't get the point of Pika's question & I don't get zabeast's point.

Mod said that's the pool of possible roles. Semi-Open setup means no role can exist without being on the list by definition.
Any claim outside of that list is a lie.

FOS on both of you for even discussing it. If Pika was baiting someone to claim outside of that list then he ruined his plan by actually bringing it up and reminding people of the list, so I can't think of any town motivation to do so. And ZB seems awfully defensive about it.

[ZaBeast]

The role pool was meant for a 16 players game. It's unlikely but possible he decided to include some other roles to make it easier to balance. Anyways, I'm not taking part on that role fishing attempt from pika (and I don't see how that warrants a FOS, if I was defensive because I had an outside role, it would mean I couldn't be cult.)

[BuJaber]

Yeah well he could have included other roles and could have forgotten to update the first post to either remove the list or add the new roles, but I just couldn't believe that could be the case.
As for fos you're right it didn't make sense from my perspective since I believed the list is all inclusive but see now I change my mind I think you could be a weird 3rd party role with a unique wincon. It would explain your reaction.

Though I'll be honest if you turn on pika I'm happy to use you to get him lynched and then lynch you later in the game after we lynch recruiter. You did just out yourself as not zombie leader.

Also having reread the first post I now realize it takes the zombie recruitment isn't instantaneous so that changes things significantly. Mislynching is way less risky than I first thought.

Unvote
Vote Pika

[Ragian]

Brilliant. You're letting DDS off the hook for not showing up.

[ZaBeast]

I like how BuJ is jumping to conclusions quickly. And btw, if sam did include roles outside the

[ZaBeast]

Keyboard malfunction. Real post below.
I like how BuJ is jumping to conclusions quickly. And btw, if sam did include roles outside the 1st post it would be kinda dumb to edit them into the OP as that would be a giveaway they are in the game.
As for DDS, I just feel more comfortable pressuring Pika for what looks more like a slip to me. My original vote on DDS was more motivated by the fact I didn't really know who to vote for than because he looked significantly fishy.

[BuJaber]

Difference between pika and dds is negligible at this point.. But while dds isn't doing anything... pika is up to something suspicious. So I dunno why you're so upset rags.

[BuJaber]

Keyboard malfunction. Real post below.
I like how BuJ is jumping to conclusions quickly. And btw, if sam did include roles outside the 1st post it would be kinda dumb to edit them into the OP as that would be a giveaway they are in the game.
As for DDS, I just feel more comfortable pressuring Pika for what looks more like a slip to me. My original vote on DDS was more motivated by the fact I didn't really know who to vote for than because he looked significantly fishy.

Well maybe you just have a better memory. I know I wouldn't know if he did or didn't. I signed up and saw the list months ago I wouldn't notice any edits and honestly I expect others wouldn't either.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Brilliant. You're letting DDS off the hook for not showing up.

Not a bunch of bright thinkers anyways, given the line of thinking within the past couple of days. Just haven't been checking on this due to everyone's lack of involvement

I'm a vanilla townie for the sake of the earlier L-2 I was at.

I would rather pressure roles out of people now rather than player, given the player pool size, cult being present, etc. We can work out the logistics later when given x roles, or can skip it in it's entirety, mass claim and go from there.

You're now presented with a couple of paths.

Path A. Lynch me, find out I'm actually a vanilla townie and wasted a Day and quite possible the win altogether.

Path B. Try what I mentioned above in my line of thinking and actually attempt to win this game, rather than think that "No Lynch" is somehow the best course of action, which, news flash: it isn't.

[DirtyDishSoap]

EBWOP :

Brilliant. You're letting DDS off the hook for not showing up.

Not a bunch of bright thinkers anyways, given the line of thinking within the past couple of days. Just haven't been checking on this due to everyone's lack of involvement

I'm a vanilla townie for the sake of the earlier L-2 I was at.

I would rather pressure roles out of people now rather than later, given the player pool size, cult being present, etc. We can work out the logistics later when given x roles, or can skip it in it's entirety, mass claim and go from there.

You're now presented with a couple of paths.

Path A. Lynch me, find out I'm actually a vanilla townie and wasted a Day and quite possibly the win altogether.

Path B. Try what I mentioned above in my line of thinking and actually attempt to win this game, rather than think that "No Lynch" is somehow the best course of action, which, news flash: it isn't.

Just got to work, running off of an hour of sleep, little garbled.

[BuJaber]

No disagreements here. I've thought, rethought and then corrected my strategy for this game all by myself.

[Samlen]

Votecount - The One With Clarification, Promised Prods, and Deadline Soon

Zabeast - Dakky (1/5)
Ragian - Pikanchion (1/5)
DirtyDishSoap - Ragian, Madmitch (2/5)
Pikanchion - DirtyDishSoap, Zabeast, Bujaber (3/5)

With 8 alive you need 5 for a lynch or 4 for a no-lynch

The roles in this game can only come from the already given pool. The only thing that may change for balancing purposes would be the hidden aspects.

Here is a quick list of posts by players since last votecount and the last date (according to cc) that they posted on:

Spoiler

1. Zabeast ...........(8th)
2. Dakky21 ..(6th)
3. Madmitch ......(7th)
4. Pikanchion ....(7th)
5. Ragian ...............(8th)
6. Bujaber ...............(9th)
7. DirtyDishSoap ............(9th)
8. Skoffin .(5th)

I will be setting up another votecount in 48hrs-ish and will prod the inactive people that have not posted and likely set a deadline for 1-2 weeks. There has definitely been more activity than I was initially expecting for a day 1 and the current state of mafia here, hence why I'm giving it a couple more days before deciding if a deadline would help.

[Ragian]

Weekend. I'm getting drunk.

DDS sucks balls. SHOTS FIRED!

[dakky21]

Dakky - (1/5)
Zabeast - Dakky (1/5)
Ragian - Pikanchion (1/5)
DirtyDishSoap - Ragian, Madmitch (2/5)
Pikanchion - DirtyDishSoap, Zabeast, Bujaber (3/5)

Does this mean someone has a secret vote or it is an error? Just wondering, 1/5 on me from someone not disclosed.

[ZaBeast]

Zombie Leader - 3p
-Chooses a target each night, target becomes infected OR killed (Mafia members can ONLY be killed)
-Players are NOT notified if they are infected, only when they become a zombie (the night after they are infected)
-ALL zombies visit target (but not each other)
-Zombies win if they have majority
-Dead Vanilla Zombies appear as "zombiefied (role)"

Weird that I don't see a tracker in the roles, given this line in the zombie lord's. Maybe someone has it as part of the hidden aspects of his role.

I'm still sticking on pika. I'd be more open to voting skoff than DDS, based on his invaluable contribution to the game

Why are we not voting Mitch?

mhrrrr