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And Symbo would know about dodging topics...Symmetry wrote:Do you believe Trump's accusation that all the women who accused him of sexual harassment are liars? It seems like Trump wants to have his supporters dodge the topic.
QEDThorthoth wrote:And Symbo would know about dodging topics...Symmetry wrote:Do you believe Trump's accusation that all the women who accused him of sexual harassment are liars? It seems like Trump wants to have his supporters dodge the topic.
Like the women he brought to a press conference accusing Bill Clinton of abuse?karel wrote:fake shit,you notice when he won it these women where like ghost,never to be heard from again,it was a ploy
Or maybe they ended up with Jimmy Hoffa.karel wrote:fake shit,you notice when he won it these women where like ghost,never to be heard from again,it was a ploy
mrswdk wrote:Like the women he brought to a press conference accusing Bill Clinton of abuse?karel wrote:fake shit,you notice when he won it these women where like ghost,never to be heard from again,it was a ploy
I'm sorry, that's incorrect. Let's go back to karel.warmonger1981 wrote:mrswdk wrote:Like the women he brought to a press conference accusing Bill Clinton of abuse?karel wrote:fake shit,you notice when he won it these women where like ghost,never to be heard from again,it was a ploy
Who is settled more sexual harassment claims in court?
it was not abuse it was rape that bill didmrswdk wrote:Like the women he brought to a press conference accusing Bill Clinton of abuse?karel wrote:fake shit,you notice when he won it these women where like ghost,never to be heard from again,it was a ploy
Sorry, but that's just nonsense. He was a man-slut, and there was all kinds of sexual impropriety in his life, but he never had to rape anyone. Women were practically lining up for him.karel wrote:it was not abuse it was rape that bill didmrswdk wrote:Like the women he brought to a press conference accusing Bill Clinton of abuse?karel wrote:fake shit,you notice when he won it these women where like ghost,never to be heard from again,it was a ploy
Dukasaur wrote:Sorry, but that's just nonsense. He was a man-slut, and there was all kinds of sexual impropriety in his life, but he never had to rape anyone. Women were practically lining up for him.karel wrote:it was not abuse it was rape that bill didmrswdk wrote:Like the women he brought to a press conference accusing Bill Clinton of abuse?karel wrote:fake shit,you notice when he won it these women where like ghost,never to be heard from again,it was a ploy
Yes, that is correct. I cannot say for sure that he's not a rapist. I cannot say for sure that you're not a KGB agent. I'm just playing the odds.warmonger1981 wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Sorry, but that's just nonsense. He was a man-slut, and there was all kinds of sexual impropriety in his life, but he never had to rape anyone. Women were practically lining up for him.karel wrote:it was not abuse it was rape that bill didmrswdk wrote:Like the women he brought to a press conference accusing Bill Clinton of abuse?karel wrote:fake shit,you notice when he won it these women where like ghost,never to be heard from again,it was a ploy
How do you know for SURE? You don't. Only speculation upon your understanding of the facts presented to you. Your playing odds.
Dukasaur wrote:Yes, that is correct. I cannot say for sure that he's not a rapist. I cannot say for sure that you're not a KGB agent. I'm just playing the odds.warmonger1981 wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Sorry, but that's just nonsense. He was a man-slut, and there was all kinds of sexual impropriety in his life, but he never had to rape anyone. Women were practically lining up for him.karel wrote:it was not abuse it was rape that bill didmrswdk wrote:Like the women he brought to a press conference accusing Bill Clinton of abuse?karel wrote:fake shit,you notice when he won it these women where like ghost,never to be heard from again,it was a ploy
How do you know for SURE? You don't. Only speculation upon your understanding of the facts presented to you. Your playing odds.
I make a reasonable assumption that a rich famous guy who's getting tons and tons of consensual sex is not going to risk his position raping anyone. But then again, I would have bet the same thing about Bill Cosby and I would have lost my bet. So, yes, you're right. One can never be 100% certain.
On the other hand, karel assuming the opposite without any evidence whatsoever is a lot more likely to be wrong.
Symmetry wrote:Isn't it interesting how Trump supporters think that President Clinton got away with something, even though he underwent the process of impeachment, that they think President Trump shouldn't undergo.
Of all the dodges, making this a an anti-Clinton thread seems like a particularly dodgy move. Are Trumpists saying that the Lewinsky scandal was as dodgy as the non-consensual assaults by a sitting President? Or that the assaults by Trump should be dismissed because other Presidents did bad things?
I'm not sure Weinstein had absolute power, warm, and I don't think it's power that corrupted him. I think he was rotten long before. As with Trump, and Moore, it's the power that makes them think they can get away with it.warmonger1981 wrote:What about Harvey Weinstein. I use him because he had great power. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. You don't want the ones that will throw themselves at you. People if power want the ones that put up a fight. Its the hunt that's the thrill. You know about psychology so I won't go to in depth. I know your smarter than most others on here.
Symmetry wrote:I'm not sure Weinstein had absolute power, warm, and I don't think it's power that corrupted him. I think he was rotten long before. As with Trump, and Moore, it's the power that makes them think they can get away with it.warmonger1981 wrote:What about Harvey Weinstein. I use him because he had great power. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. You don't want the ones that will throw themselves at you. People if power want the ones that put up a fight. Its the hunt that's the thrill. You know about psychology so I won't go to in depth. I know your smarter than most others on here.
Weinstein had power, but not absolute power over the film industry. What strikes me is that these accusations are from throughout his career. Not just from him as as a powerhouse.warmonger1981 wrote:Symmetry wrote:I'm not sure Weinstein had absolute power, warm, and I don't think it's power that corrupted him. I think he was rotten long before. As with Trump, and Moore, it's the power that makes them think they can get away with it.warmonger1981 wrote:What about Harvey Weinstein. I use him because he had great power. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. You don't want the ones that will throw themselves at you. People if power want the ones that put up a fight. Its the hunt that's the thrill. You know about psychology so I won't go to in depth. I know your smarter than most others on here.
Harvey had absolute power within his atmosphere. He had great control over the atmosphere of Hollywood. It's not like he had the power to start with. His actions throughout his career lead up to his power. You say he was rotten long before. What gives you these assumptions? In the case was Trump he has had power for a long time because of his wealth given to him from his father's money Donald borrowed. As with Moore I don't think he was in a position of power at the times of the 14 year old girl. But I might be wrong. I don't know for sure. I also heard a technicality with the signature in the yearbook. But I don't know much more than that I have to do a quick search.
warmonger1981 wrote:Symmetry wrote:Isn't it interesting how Trump supporters think that President Clinton got away with something, even though he underwent the process of impeachment, that they think President Trump shouldn't undergo.
Of all the dodges, making this a an anti-Clinton thread seems like a particularly dodgy move. Are Trumpists saying that the Lewinsky scandal was as dodgy as the non-consensual assaults by a sitting President? Or that the assaults by Trump should be dismissed because other Presidents did bad things?
Not sticking up for Trump but I don't know of any cases he settled out of legal court for sexual misconduct. Clinton was impeach for lying under oath not for the acts committed in the Oval Office. Where are these people now who claimed abuses by the current president? Why are they silent now? Why is the liberal side of the media not beating the war drums of sexual misconduct instead of the Russian conspiracy? Real questions I'm asking..

notyou2 wrote:warmonger1981 wrote:Symmetry wrote:Isn't it interesting how Trump supporters think that President Clinton got away with something, even though he underwent the process of impeachment, that they think President Trump shouldn't undergo.
Of all the dodges, making this a an anti-Clinton thread seems like a particularly dodgy move. Are Trumpists saying that the Lewinsky scandal was as dodgy as the non-consensual assaults by a sitting President? Or that the assaults by Trump should be dismissed because other Presidents did bad things?
Not sticking up for Trump but I don't know of any cases he settled out of legal court for sexual misconduct. Clinton was impeach for lying under oath not for the acts committed in the Oval Office. Where are these people now who claimed abuses by the current president? Why are they silent now? Why is the liberal side of the media not beating the war drums of sexual misconduct instead of the Russian conspiracy? Real questions I'm asking..
Here's a case that was settled out of court where initially he was accused of rape
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-wife-d ... mp-made-me
not abuse what bill did was rapemrswdk wrote:Like the women he brought to a press conference accusing Bill Clinton of abuse?karel wrote:fake shit,you notice when he won it these women where like ghost,never to be heard from again,it was a ploy