People to Dodge in Large Esc

[dollarsnosense]

This list isn't for people who don't know how to play large escalating games, but for people who constantly do and refuse to listen to advice - even regularly joining tournaments based on these game types and shockingly enough, never doing very well.

• [player]rmjw10[/player]
• [player]Sweed dreams[/player]
• [player]bernooch[/player]
• [player]Man from Modesto[/player]
• [player]Lord Arioch[/player]
• [player]RabooeyRanbo[/player]
• [player]rmjw10[/player]
• [player]thea_cmt[/player]
• [player]Shiz[/player]
• [player]DukeHazzard[/player]
• [player]cookie0117[/player]
• [player]aaronvollrath[/player]
• [player]Thorthoth[/player]
• [player]rmjw10[/player]
• [player]Runst[/player]
• [player]MarktheMenace[/player]
• [player]barley[/player]
• [player]kristian6814[/player]
• [player]ConfederateSS[/player]
• [player]Pete[/player]
• [player]Gary[/player]
• [player]Gary[/player]
• [player]Pete[/player]

Please feel free to add names to the list.

HugitOut
Bornjust777
dv2xl
sailor488
Pete
Gary
Pete
Pete

[iAmCaffeine]

Updated accordingly, thank you very much for your contributions. I didn't add Pete another three times as I thought that was a little over the top - please apologise to him dollars as he does have feelings.

[TheForgivenOne]

Probably TheForgivenOne as well. Can never trust a guy who has a Bald Canadian Improv Comedian as their Display pic. He's also been known to use that Auto button far too often.

[dollarsnosense]

Updated accordingly, thank you very much for your contributions. I didn't add Pete another three times as I thought that was a little over the top - please apologise to him dollars as he does have feelings.

Dear Pete,

Kindly accept my apology, that was way over the top, in consideration for any harm or unnecessary grief I may have inflicted upon thee, I offer you riskllama as a slave for the month of September.

[grogoY]

GreenBaize

What sucks is most of these chuckleheads seem to enter every escalating tourny they can. Last time I'll blindly enter a tourny before checking if any of these game destroyers are in them.

[iAmCaffeine]

Updated accordingly, thank you very much for your contributions. I didn't add Pete another three times as I thought that was a little over the top - please apologise to him dollars as he does have feelings.

Dear Pete,

Kindly accept my apology, that was way over the top, in consideration for any harm or unnecessary grief I may have inflicted upon thee, I offer you riskllama as a slave for the month of September.

Thanks Gerald, Pete appreciates it.

GreenBaize

What sucks is most of these chuckleheads seem to enter every escalating tourny they can. Last time I'll blindly enter a tourny before checking if any of these game destroyers are in them.

Yeah, most of them do, which is why I've started checking who's entered escalating tournaments before joining myself. There was a new auto-tournament one yesterday but after seeing half of the players were mentioned in this thread I decided to dodge it. Some players in particular, like rmjw10, will enter literally every single tournament in existence despite not having a clue what to do.

[grogoY]

To address the "it's just a game, play for fun" excuse, these players should then enter only 1v1, team, or poly games, where they don't ruin other players idea of fun of putting a modicum of thought into their gameplay. There appears to be no rationale for their moves. If it were just trying to take bonuses, one could work around that knowing that's a common tactic. However, I've tried leaving 1s in a non-bonus region, they attack the stack and the card spot. I'll have a larger stack thinking it's safe b/ there are smaller stacks available, they redeem an early set and hit my larger stack. No logic or reason to their gameplay. I have no idea what they can possibly be thinking. It is so frustrating, seems the only option left is to attack them in adjacent regions if you want to have a safe stack.

[Dukasaur]

I've never seen bad players as a problem. Yes, they may cause me to lose. On the other hand, they may cause someone else to lose and thereby give me a win. Like bad dice, bad players apply equally to everybody and over the long term they will do you as much good as harm.

[grogoY]

Personally, I prefer to play games in which strategy and thought has some role in the outcome. Might as well play slot machines/high card/coin flip if random luck is your game.

[iAmCaffeine]

I've never seen bad players as a problem. Yes, they may cause me to lose. On the other hand, they may cause someone else to lose and thereby give me a win. Like bad dice, bad players apply equally to everybody and over the long term they will do you as much good as harm.

No, they won't, because they f*ck up games so often and with 6-8+ players per game it's rarely going to work in your favour, and like grogoY I'd rather win from good strategy rather than cleaning up some idiot's mess.

The thing that annoys me most is they don't listen to advice, don't care about playing well and continue to play like shit knowingly. Some are surely in denial about their play style being less effective than a white athlete but when you present the facts about how many games they win (very few) they just ignore it and refuse to listen. It's very rare that a player will actually listen and learn. That's what infuriates me about it - that retards like rmjw10 play 600 games a day and don't give a f*ck about playing well or ruining games for so many other people.

[Thorthoth]

No, they won't, because they f*ck up games so often and with 6-8+ players per game it's rarely going to work in your favour, and like grogoY I'd rather win from good strategy rather than cleaning up some idiot's mess.

If a player's strategy (coffy's, for example) is so fragile that the actions of a 'bad player' can usually undo it, was it ever much of a strategy at all?

[iAmCaffeine]

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[Little Witt]

Little Witt

Why am I here...I know full well how to play escalating games...I'm winning in a few 12 player classic escalating tournaments...and not by chance. I would like to be removed from this list. Completely unfounded.

[iAmCaffeine]

Little Witt

Why am I here...I know full well how to play escalating games...I'm winning in a few 12 player classic escalating tournaments...and not by chance. I would like to be removed from this list. Completely unfounded.

Overruled! You may continue to debate your placement on this list. I need to read more to make a more informed decision.

Meanwhile, the list has been updated.

[grogoY]

Little Witt

Why am I here...I know full well how to play escalating games...I'm winning in a few 12 player classic escalating tournaments...and not by chance. I would like to be removed from this list. Completely unfounded.

You've wiped out too many stacks to make this claim. i've played you in a few games and this MO keeps repeating itself. For example, in the Battle for Iraq game you, Caff, and me are in first you took out a 3 and 1 of mine(when you could have taken the 1 card spot), next I took out your 3 and 1(i like to keep stack takers away from me), and finally i had a 6 stack adjacent to you and a mutual region you and i both had that had 3 on it(one in which you can see a large number of regions in a foggy game) you decide to take my 6 and not the 3.
You've taken out stacks in other games(i'll have to look up exact instances) and I deem any player who takes out stacks randomly to be players to dodge in multi player escalating. The other players i've cited also have a propensity for taking out stacks randomly.

Most players on this site can point to occasional wins on escalating, but I have to believe players who often takes stacks percentage of wins on 6+ player escalating games is below average.

Sorry Little Witt, just checked our 4 esc games together and only Battle of Iraq game had this questionable strategy from you. Looked at logs and snaps in other games and no other evidence. I withdraw Little Witt's name from this list(though still don't understand your moves in Battle for Iraq. You even took out my 1 from Baathists later in game when it would seem to be a good idea to keep these regions trapped in foggy escalating esp w my already having fewest regions on map and being a likely easy kill of me by you).

[Thorthoth]

Personally, I prefer to play games in which strategy and thought has some role in the outcome. Might as well play slot machines/high card/coin flip if random luck is your game.

This is pathetic. The esc strategy you advocate involves more random luck than the one you oppose.
All you want to do is card and stack, waiting for the player who can cash out first. Lame.
Players who strategically remove certain terrs, including stacked terrs, are much more sophisticated players.

And what's with ''netiko'' and ''bietzsche''?
typos? unfunny in-jokes? some kind of secret code?

[iAmCaffeine]

Little Witt

Why am I here...I know full well how to play escalating games...I'm winning in a few 12 player classic escalating tournaments...and not by chance. I would like to be removed from this list. Completely unfounded.

me sorry

Okay I'll update the list. Unfortunately I seem to have found myself in a series of classic freestyle escalating games which are in fog and the stripers are all intent on taking Europe / NA. They're not even bothering with Aus or SA for the most part. Peculiar indeed.

Personally, I prefer to play games in which strategy and thought has some role in the outcome. Might as well play slot machines/high card/coin flip if random luck is your game.

This is pathetic. The esc strategy you advocate involves more random luck than the one you oppose.
All you want to do is card and stack, waiting for the player who can cash out first. Lame.
Players who strategically remove certain terrs, including stacked terrs, are much more sophisticated players.

This is why you're on the list.

[iAmCaffeine]

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[ch0rn]

I see a player in this list that recently won a large escalating tournament I ran. and a few that make the finals in them.

[Thorthoth]

I see a player in this list that recently won a large escalating tournament I ran. and a few that make the finals in them.

???, ch0rn... you do realize this whole tread is just the snarky antics of a notorious CC troll, ...right?

[iAmCaffeine]

I see a player in this list that recently won a large escalating tournament I ran. and a few that make the finals in them.

If you won't name them I can't really comment, but they don't go on the list for something like a simple mistake. Also, your tournaments are open to anyone and I play in many of them, so I can say with certainty that lots of terrible players join.

[ch0rn]

Oh, I know we get all kinds of players in my tournaments, the first stage of the tournament is always a little tougher because you have to deal with the craziness of random attack strategies (or lack there of). I know some people drive me a little crazy especially when they pursue +2 bonuses when sets are worth 20+

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Tournament won by shiz, he even beat me in the finals by 1 damn point in a come from behind win.

No idea if he belongs on your list here, Can't speak for him personally, I should remember since I recently played against him in that same tournament final, but I just play so many games I can't remember. But , that isn't an easy tournament to win.

[iAmCaffeine]

I have no doubt about Shiz belonging on this list. Five man escalating is not the same as eight - as I'm sure you know - and I've lost count of the number of times he has killed large stacks for no advantage whatsoever. He is terrible and refuses to believe there are more optimal strategies for the game type, but instead becomes vindictive in games and starts taking out stacks at random because he gets upset when he's told he's not very good.