[CC7] TOFU (33) vs ATN (16) - TOFU Wins! - Final 8/8/17

[rockfist]

I have a tendency to think very highly of my and my teammates abilities. I was bothered by some of the comments made (I won't go back through them and yes perhaps I have a thin skin). I didn't respond in the best way. I'm sorry.

[catnipdreams]

Just catching up in this thread - obviously, we need a cute kitten picture here!

[Arama86n]

Perhaps focus on a mutual enemy now? O crap that's prob S&M

And yes dear cat, we most definitlely need kittens. Plural.
And you delivered, excellent.

[iAmCaffeine]

I'm good with that explanation. Thanks EW. Mistakes were made we've owned up to them caff and ATN. We will do our best to not let them happen again in the future.

It was less "owning up" and more me PMing EW to let him know what he'd done was against the rules but I wouldn't be doing anything about it, I just wanted to make sure he knew. I have no idea how EW thought putting someone into games that he knew he would have to cover from the very first turn was acceptable, for what it's worth. I took his word for it though. Reading sheer arrogance and shit from the winners of the war - after I let this kind of crap slide at the start - really doesn't sit well.

I have a tendency to think very highly of my and my teammates abilities. I was bothered by some of the comments made (I won't go back through them and yes perhaps I have a thin skin). I didn't respond in the best way. I'm sorry.

Dude you couldn't even take a joke when I called your Pot Mosbi team of you, loutil, ebconquer and fusi "reserves". I think highly of my clan too. If you're in a clan you don't think highly of then you should get moving.

[Extreme Ways]

I'm good with that explanation. Thanks EW. Mistakes were made we've owned up to them caff and ATN. We will do our best to not let them happen again in the future.

It was less "owning up" and more me PMing EW to let him know what he'd done was against the rules but I wouldn't be doing anything about it, I just wanted to make sure he knew.

Yes. this part was correct. Caff PM'd me about it saying it wasn't very nice. Unfortunately these PMs aren't in my inbox anymore, so I can't really quote relevant parts of the conversation.

I have no idea how EW thought putting someone into games that he knew he would have to cover from the very first turn was acceptable, for what it's worth. I took his word for it though.

This is where we disagreed on based on different interpretations of sitting rules.
"4. You must not enter clan games if you know in advance that you will not be able to take the vast majority of your turns. If you are going to participate in clan games, it should be you who will actually play in these games."
What happened was that key missed more than just his first turn, at which point I agree, Key shouldn't have played. I also couldve asked Caff to delay filling the 2 games Key was in, to prevent this from happening. I didn't though, and that was a mistake. It would've made it clear to me that 1) my assumption would be incorrect or 2) I would be clear to field Key.

Assuming the games would start on deadline day, the 28th, the other important factor is which player gets the first turn. In the triples game, he got the 3rd turn out of 6. In the quads, the 3rd out of 8. Based on the current speed of the rounds, key would have missed 1 turn in both games had they started on deadline day. Key missed 2 turns in FNA, of which the last one the day before he returned, and 3 in W2.1 with the last on hours before he returned (clock was down to 50m, I had to take it).

We can argue about the semantics of the rule. I've had wrong interpretations of rules before, as you have seen with the delay in populating our second home set. We chose not to argue further because the point was notifying me, and I agreed that I shouldve done it differently.

Any inquiries about this matter (TOFU/ATN/anyone) are welcome in my PM. Just 2 days ago I said this was one of the more interesting warthreads, so lets focus on the banter rather than the arguments and insults.

[rockfist]

While I understand what you mean, I'm here at TOFU for the long run. I think highly of us in the long run. That doesn't mean I think we are the best at all times or should be (no one should be). Like clans I have ebbs and flows to my play as does just about everyone. My clan mates know that about me.

[hopalong]

woh - things calmed down for canadia day. we dew have that calming effect, us canadians.

[IcePack]

That's aboot right eh

[Arama86n]

<3 Canadians

Though to be fair, most Americans I've known in different clans on the internet over the years have been humble, delightful, awesome people. Not anything like the common perception of Americans in Europe, and in much of the world.
Though granted, It might have something to do with my choice of clanmates/teammates over the years, but still.

But yeah, Canadians are superior

[IcePack]

Indeed

[2007spaceodyssey]

I must say you do a good job in this war TOFU

[Arama86n]

Kind of you to say so, Sir.

[hopalong]

gw, ATN. multiply some more (catch it on cam), and look us up next ear!

[iAmCaffeine]

Yeah, the first half was a lot closer but you ran away with it in the second set. Props to you guys, we always knew it would be a tough fight. ATN are focusing internally at the minute and you'll see some changes coming along shortly. Well played.

[Arama86n]

25-13

GG gents.
Good luck moving forward.

[rockfist]

Good war. I hope you reconsider playing CL.

[loutil]

While we clearly had a few personality clashes...all in all a great battle fought well on both sides.

[iAmCaffeine]

Good war. I hope you reconsider playing CL.

It's not really our style, but I'll run it by the team when sign ups are open.

[Arama86n]

On behalf of The Odd Fellows Union I wish to publicly congratulate Dako on his recent wedding, and wish him all the best enjoying his honeymoon!!
To call him a cornerstone of this clan would the understatement of the century.
Thanks a million for your unparalleled commitment over the years Dako, and we pray that you will be around these halls for many years to come.

[IcePack]

Congrats Dako!

[Doc_Brown]

Looks like this one is wrapped up now. About a week too late for the August update, but it should be worth a nice ranking boost in September. It will be interesting to see if it's enough o push us over TOP just yet.

[Extreme Ways]

Looks like this one is wrapped up now. About a week too late for the August update, but it should be worth a nice ranking boost in September. It will be interesting to see if it's enough o push us over TOP just yet.

Over S&M, probably. TOP needs to drop some points before we can catch them, or we need a decisive win over S&M. I dont see us winning this (vs S&M, red.) with a large enough margin to leap over TOP.

[iAmCaffeine]

Lol, we just stop paying attention once the victory or loss is confirmed. Often makes things look worse than they were. Good war etc.

[groovysmurf]

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