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by **Djfireside** on Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:17 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
Fircoal wrote:Mets what is your role name?

My role name is Dr. Egg.

Um, Dr Egg is the Villian in sonic. He is a mastermind of various inventions.

Vote Mets

by **dakky21** on Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:20 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Skoffin wrote: The only other possibility is that something was done in regards to chu that meant I did not go there. Ie he was driven with another person.
Nag's role only steals a persons action or whole role for the night? I don't know if that would have had an effect on me visiting chu.
Did anyone else target chu in any way?
If not, either Chu is solid town or Chu has a role swapping power. Chu I would like to know your role still.

Skoffin, I have an idea (assuming for the moment I trust that you're really a town hider). You should pre-announce who you are going to visit before the night starts. That way, if you die, and the scene reveals it was because you hid behind mafia (it would usually reveal this), we have possible evidence that the person you hid behind is scum. There's no sense in you dying without us getting any information out of it. There's little risk to you in this if you are who you say you are, AFAICT, and helping reveal scum would be worth it even if you ended up dying over it.

Wait, I guess that doesn't work because scum can then just target the person you're hiding behind for the kill. Nvm. Derp.

But wait, you are correct in some sort of way... even if Skof announces who she will hide behind, what the scum get? Two night kills if she hides behind scum! So deducting where she hided last few nights should remove some possible scum targets! Just do the math if it's not a lie.

by **Djfireside** on Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:28 pm

You may be onto something here and worth a shot. I will have to read back to Chu's hints cause I dont think im right in what I pegged them as

by **nagerous** on Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:15 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Skoffin wrote: The only other possibility is that something was done in regards to chu that meant I did not go there. Ie he was driven with another person.
Nag's role only steals a persons action or whole role for the night? I don't know if that would have had an effect on me visiting chu.
Did anyone else target chu in any way?
If not, either Chu is solid town or Chu has a role swapping power. Chu I would like to know your role still.

Skoffin, I have an idea (assuming for the moment I trust that you're really a town hider). You should pre-announce who you are going to visit before the night starts. That way, if you die, and the scene reveals it was because you hid behind mafia (it would usually reveal this), we have possible evidence that the person you hid behind is scum. There's no sense in you dying without us getting any information out of it. There's little risk to you in this if you are who you say you are, AFAICT, and helping reveal scum would be worth it even if you ended up dying over it.

Wait, I guess that doesn't work because scum can then just target the person you're hiding behind for the kill. Nvm. Derp.

Unless DDS watches them and DJ protects DDS and you and Dakky don't troll us all with the items ;-)

by **nagerous** on Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:17 pm

Djfireside wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Fircoal wrote:Mets what is your role name?

My role name is Dr. Egg.

Um, Dr Egg is the Villian in sonic. He is a mastermind of various inventions.

Vote Mets

It is Dr Eggman but the naming similarities seem very suspicious.

by **nagerous** on Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:23 pm

Skoffin wrote: The only other possibility is that something was done in regards to chu that meant I did not go there. Ie he was driven with another person.
Nag's role only steals a persons action or whole role for the night? I don't know if that would have had an effect on me visiting chu.
Did anyone else target chu in any way?
If not, either Chu is solid town or Chu has a role swapping power. Chu I would like to know your role still.

If Fircoal had a night action I would have been targeted, so Fircoal didn't kill Tim

by **nagerous** on Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:24 pm

nagerous wrote:
Skoffin wrote: The only other possibility is that something was done in regards to chu that meant I did not go there. Ie he was driven with another person.
Nag's role only steals a persons action or whole role for the night? I don't know if that would have had an effect on me visiting chu.
Did anyone else target chu in any way?
If not, either Chu is solid town or Chu has a role swapping power. Chu I would like to know your role still.

If Fircoal had a night action I would have been targeted, so Fircoal didn't kill Tim

Wait ignore that, Dakky trolled me in the night with the heat seeking lark

by **DirtyDishSoap** on Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:10 pm

nagerous wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Skoffin wrote: The only other possibility is that something was done in regards to chu that meant I did not go there. Ie he was driven with another person.
Nag's role only steals a persons action or whole role for the night? I don't know if that would have had an effect on me visiting chu.
Did anyone else target chu in any way?
If not, either Chu is solid town or Chu has a role swapping power. Chu I would like to know your role still.

Skoffin, I have an idea (assuming for the moment I trust that you're really a town hider). You should pre-announce who you are going to visit before the night starts. That way, if you die, and the scene reveals it was because you hid behind mafia (it would usually reveal this), we have possible evidence that the person you hid behind is scum. There's no sense in you dying without us getting any information out of it. There's little risk to you in this if you are who you say you are, AFAICT, and helping reveal scum would be worth it even if you ended up dying over it.

Wait, I guess that doesn't work because scum can then just target the person you're hiding behind for the kill. Nvm. Derp.

Unless DDS watches them and DJ protects DDS and you and Dakky don't troll us all with the items

Wouldn't work anyways, we would have to lynch scum today or we lose voting majority.

by **DirtyDishSoap** on Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:11 pm

disregard that too, I'm too tired and going to the gym lol.

But I don't believe that would work, 2 dead town for a scum is pretty terrible.

by **Metsfanmax** on Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:31 pm

Djfireside wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Fircoal wrote:Mets what is your role name?

My role name is Dr. Egg.

Um, Dr Egg is the Villian in sonic. He is a mastermind of various inventions.

Vote Mets

Um, how many times do I have to remind people that roles were assigned randomly without regard for alignment?

by **Skoffin** on Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:20 am

nagerous wrote:
Skoffin wrote: The only other possibility is that something was done in regards to chu that meant I did not go there. Ie he was driven with another person.
Nag's role only steals a persons action or whole role for the night? I don't know if that would have had an effect on me visiting chu.
Did anyone else target chu in any way?
If not, either Chu is solid town or Chu has a role swapping power. Chu I would like to know your role still.

If Fircoal had a night action I would have been targeted, so Fircoal didn't kill Tim

Unless you pulled his individual power and not the team kill. idk.

I'd still like to know what he actually does. Everyone wanted to go at Sam for being coy with his role yet chu has been allowed to give next to no details on his. Everyone elses role has essentially been accounted for, so he would be the only person capable of affecting my role so it would be available to know more before I decide if he is indeed clear or not.

For posterity, can everyone repeat the following information:

What is your 'name'
Your role
What your action does

And what did you do and what results did you get for N1, N2 and N3.

by **Fircoal** on Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:29 am

@Skoffin/Mets

The Glorious Fircoal's Scrapped Post wrote:Because I forgot. Hider is not a role that's used that often and it's been a long while since I've seen on in action (especially since I haven't played on here.) It's only when Nag pointed that out that I remembered. And then I checked it via online resources.

This was something that I wrote out before either of you had this argument. I bring it up to make a point. Skoffin is right here. It's been a long time for all of us. Just think about it. When Skoffin told us what her hider power did none of us questioned it for a whole day until Nag brought it up. So what's more likely? That Skoff had the same position that all of us did or that she as scum missed the first result for the role and decided to go with whatever?

Skoffin wrote:
If not, either Chu is solid town or Chu has a role swapping power. Chu I would like to know your role still.

K.

I am bulletproof. I can't be killed at night. That's it. I played way too many games irl where I became Night 1 kill bait. So my first reaction was to think that I got killed Night 1. It seemed that didn't actually happen. *shrug*

But this does leave a fun possibility. Skoffin if you're a town hider you can hide behind me every night and we'll be gaunteeded to have two town players alive. Which sounds quite to me.

by **Fircoal** on Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:31 am

What is your 'name': Diamond
Your role: Bulletproof Townie
What your action does: If I'm targeted for a nightkill I will survive.

by **nagerous** on Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:34 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
Djfireside wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Fircoal wrote:Mets what is your role name?

My role name is Dr. Egg.

Um, Dr Egg is the Villian in sonic. He is a mastermind of various inventions.

Vote Mets

Um, how many times do I have to remind people that roles were assigned randomly without regard for alignment?

Not necessarily in regards to the naming conventions

by **Djfireside** on Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:22 am

UNVOTE

I will back off on that for now but when Work clears up I think we need to determine how each days actions happened. Since everyone I believe is out on the table now we should be able to put things together. Im a bit weary on a Bulletproof townie, seems a bit OP but I wont discount the gloriousness of it if it exists

by **Metsfanmax** on Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:48 am

I am more inclined to believe it if it is X-shot bulletproof.

by **dakky21** on Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:32 pm

I'm not sure why Chu claimed bulletproof because I believe if I got Nag's role correct, he can strip his bulletproof to protect himself and if Skoff hides behind Chu, that will be a double kill if scum targets him... So if Chu is really bulletproof then Nag you should try to get Mets gift again or target anyone else, so Skoff and Chu are protected during the night for sure.

by **Fircoal** on Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:03 am

dakky21 wrote:I'm not sure why Chu claimed bulletproof

Because that's my role.

by **strike wolf** on Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:49 am

Chu (1) Skoffin
Nag
Djfireside
Dakky
Mets
Legion
DDS
Skoffin

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

by **nagerous** on Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:08 am

[quote="Metsfanmax"]As we are closing the day, and I think it's better to lynch than not, I'm going to end it with: [b][color=#00BF00]vote Samlen[/color][/b]. Sam's actions are the scummiest to me out of the lynch options today, and I [i]really[/i] don't like how hard Sam is pushing on Fircoal when (as far as I can tell) Fircoal is looking pretty town to me.

Also, since at this point claiming is better than not claiming, so that we can clear up the confusion, I will reveal that I am the gifter and am responsible for the "hot potato."[/quote]

Do you actually have a night action? As dakky is the test subject sounds like he automatically just receive the gifts.

Did you know who the test subject of your gifts was?

by **Skoffin** on Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:13 pm

It would be easier to track everything if everyone gave the details I asked for instead of having to hunt through the thread finding everything.

But at this stage the best candidates are looking like mets and DJ. Mets at least has the benefit of having his actual role confirmed via dakky, whereas DJ has interacted with nobody.

by **Metsfanmax** on Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:57 am

nagerous wrote:Do you actually have a night action? As dakky is the test subject sounds like he automatically just receive the gifts.

Did you know who the test subject of your gifts was?

Yes, I actually have a night action. My night action is to choose a gift to give to the Test Subject. I was not told who it was in my role PM.

by **Skoffin** on Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:14 am

1. Metsfanmax - Dr Egg/Gifter
3. Dakky - Name/Test Subject
5. Dr fireside - Dr Hibbert/Doctor
7. DirtyDishsoap - Owl/Watcher
9. Chu - Diamond/BP
10. Legion - Name/Flasher
11. Skoffin - A Frightened Cat/Hider
12. Nag - Overzealous sports fan/Instigator

Dead:
2. Samlen -Hated Extra #5-Town Miller Lynched Day 3
4. Mitch -Jack Ventura People Detective -Town Cop killed D2
6. Tim -Big Mouth-Town Crier Killed N3
8. Ragian -The Guy Who Rigged the Prom King Vote-Mafia Double Voter Lynched D2

That's all the claims that I have seen thus far, if yours is incorrect then do say so.

Actions as I know them:

N1:
Metsfanmax gifted to Dakky
Dakky received potato waffle and gives it to Sam
Dr fireside protects Mets
DirtyDishsoap ??
Chu does nothing
Legion delays Ragian
Skoffin hides behind Sam
Nag ??

N2:
Metsfanmax gifted to Dakky
Dakky targets DDS, but sees Nag visit Sam
Dr fireside protects Mets
DirtyDishsoap roleblocks Legion
Chu does nothing
Legion is roleblocked
Skoffin hides behind Sam
Nag visits Sam

N3:

Metsfanmax gifted to Dakky
Dakky redirected Nag to DJ
Dr fireside ??
DirtyDishsoap is delayed
Chu does nothing
Legion delays DDS
Skoffin hides behind Chu
Nag targets Mets but no indication that anything happened

Again everyone please confirm that I have your info correct and what info I have missed.

We currently have 8 players alive, with possibly six town and two scum. Which means we have, I believe, two mislynches unless my math skills have failed me. I personally feel our best bet is between mets and DJ. And DJ is the only person to not have really interacted with another player at night that can indicate what role they really have.

by **Skoffin** on Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:18 am

I'll also note that chu is not clear. My earlier theory hinged on the fact that a redirector existed, and they swapped dakky's target with nag. So someone could have moved my hider target. Unless dakky lied about his results and no redirector exists, which seems unlikely.

by **DirtyDishSoap** on Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:18 am

N1 I targeted Fircoal, had no results.

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