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[Djfireside]

I have my own thoughts on Legion and the cop confirm cause I still swear jack Ventura had to be insane but since I can not validate it I assume it to be true for now. The no night kill is still bothering me that it can be blocked. I wouldnt assume that to be possible and its driving me mad.

Dakky, I think you should claim your role as well or what your results from n1 were if that would make it easier. It would only make this easier on all of us at this point but I guess that would require others on it.

[Skoffin]

I doubt Legion made the mafia kill considering his role action is what prevented scum killing N1. I doubt scum would have targeted me last night, so that leaves me with the possibility that scum targeted mets and DJ is truthful. Which in turn takes two people off my scum list for now and leaves me with only chu. lol

If anyone has any info that includes a possible explanation for last night I'd say they need to come forward. That means if anyone could roleblock, swap roles etc

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[Skoffin]

We're dying here, lads. I haven't even seen Legion in a while.

Can everyone just at least post their top suspects so we can work out some sort of consensus.

[Samlen]

Again, I'm sticking with Fircoal as my top suspect due to their actions.

[DirtyDishSoap]

It's hard for me to lean in any such way atm.

I really do want to believe in the theory that Fircoal and myself typed out, but it's not really tangible. The mass claiming isn't working out because we still have a handful still on their hands either waiting for the pressure or just coming up with a role. At this point, we have no real lead.

In any event...
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My suspects have been Mets, dakky and Dj.

Maybes have been Chu and DJ.

Samlen has never came across scummy as I've said in the past, Nag I think is just being aggressive to get answers, Tim I have no idea.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Maybes have been Chu*

Damn proof-reading at work is too hard.

[strike wolf]

Samlen (2) Chu, Nag
Chu (1) Samlen
Nag
Djfireside (1) Dakky
Dakky (1) DJ
Mets
Legion
DDS
Skoffin
Tim

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline will be end of day tomorrow. As of now, no one has enough votes to reach lynch. Prodding Legion

[Fircoal]

My top suspect is still Samlen, although at this point of the game no lead I have is strong.

I'm also suspicious of DDS, DJ, and Skoffin,.

I have town reads on legion (for obvious reason), mets and Nag.

I've covered why I found Sam scummy earlier so I doubt I need to rehash that.

DDS I'm mixed on because while it is possible that his lack of playing here is making him, make these weird players, I've seen a lot of weird plays from him. Each of them on their own don't seem that bad but together they feel a bit off to me. Also his claim of turning into a roleblocker last night seems a bit fishy to me. It could completely be true or it could be a disguise because he blocked Legion.

DJ hasn't really done much this game and he claimed pretty early although that has more to do with town pressure than anything to be fair to him. That said something about his game feels off and I'm not sure about his claim. That said I'm not sure if it's wise to lynch a claimed doctor without good reason to.

Skoffin I think is least likely to be scum out of those whom I'm suspicious of. I just find it weird how she seems to be excusing those that are scummy and calling them town, while trying to kicking up muck about those who are town. I think she pushes too much for me to be scum although I can't tell if that is because of something sinister or a failure to see what I am doing. I'd guess that it's a townie reading incorrectly but it does strike me a bit suspicious. I'd still rather lynch one of the other 3 because she is posting, and town having active posters is good.

[nagerous]

It's hard for me to lean in any such way atm.

I really do want to believe in the theory that Fircoal and myself typed out, but it's not really tangible. The mass claiming isn't working out because we still have a handful still on their hands either waiting for the pressure or just coming up with a role. At this point, we have no real lead.

In any event...
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My suspects have been Mets, dakky and Dj.

Maybes have been Chu and DJ.

Samlen has never came across scummy as I've said in the past, Nag I think is just being aggressive to get answers, Tim I have no idea.

I didn't think I had been particularly aggressive but that is a moot point

[nagerous]

f*ck it I don't know if this will help but we are going to no lynch perhaps so maybe providing some info may help people make sense of what happened?

I am sort of a redirector except anyone I target their night action instead points at me?

I targeted samlen last night so if he took a night action last night it ended up being directed at me. Considering samlen has told us all he didn't take a night action last night but dakky's action ended up pointing at me, does this mean Sam is lying? IDK as there is no hard evidence but it does continue to make me suspicious of him and I still think he is lying about his lack of night action

[nagerous]

Ignore the ?, if my last post wasn't clear as per an example if I targeted fireside tonight for instance and he went to protect mets I would get that protection.

Night one I didn't use my power as I didn't feel I had enough information to use it to best advantage

[dakky21]

So nag if you targeted scum you'd end up dead? So at least that isn't what happened N2 for sure.

[nagerous]

So nag if you targeted scum you'd end up dead? So at least that isn't what happened N2 for sure.

No one died but yeah if I targeted someone who may have tried to kill that night then I would have potentially died

[dakky21]

So nag if you targeted scum you'd end up dead? So at least that isn't what happened N2 for sure.

No one died but yeah if I targeted someone who may have tried to kill that night then I would have potentially died

Wait wait.. so if you targeted person A and person A tries to kill person B, A kills you or not?
So you targeted Samlen and we know Samlen didn't order a kill (because you're still alive) so that clears him?

BTW. why potentially? If it's not 100% then it messes with my theory...

[nagerous]

So nag if you targeted scum you'd end up dead? So at least that isn't what happened N2 for sure.

No one died but yeah if I targeted someone who may have tried to kill that night then I would have potentially died

Wait wait.. so if you targeted person A and person A tries to kill person B, A kills you or not?
So you targeted Samlen and we know Samlen didn't order a kill (because you're still alive) so that clears him?

BTW. why potentially? If it's not 100% then it messes with my theory...

Potentially because anything can happen in a mafia game.

So the first example is correct but there has been spinning around a lot in the night that other circumstances may have dictated play. Sam may not have sent a kill action but why for instance were you told I visited Sam? Did I deflect Sam's night action which he said he didn't take to make you see my action somehow?

[dakky21]

Won't quote you nag but I already said what I received and what I know. I don't know why that happened but since you're a redirector maybe it had something to do with you targeting Sam.

And yeah, I understand the "potentially" now.

[Fircoal]

Wait a minute DJ. After yesterday's lynch it should have been fairly obvious that legion was town and a likely kill choice. Why didn't you protect him instead of Mets?

[Metsfanmax]

Wait a minute DJ. After yesterday's lynch it should have been fairly obvious that legion was town and a likely kill choice. Why didn't you protect him instead of Mets?

There's so much WIFOM here that it's hard to have a meaningful analysis. If mafia don't have a doc, and they assume town do, then legion was also the likely doc choice last night. So why target someone who they can't kill?

[nagerous]

That is WIFOM the natural thing for the town doctor to have done would have been to protect legion. I would have done . DJ said in his post that he has doubts about legion and the cop sanity. There is no evidence of the cop being insane here, legion also gifted us ragian though had to push hard to get the lynch . He is clearly town.

Personally I don't trust DJ but seems foolish to lynch a claimed doctor.

[Samlen]

So a lightning rod role. My assumption would be that you visit whoever you target, then, if they are using an action, they then target you instead. Nothing happened to you because, like I said, I did not take an action last night. I'd assume it would work when I pass off the waffle bomb I have tonight, but I don't see why you would want to risk blowing up.

[Djfireside]

Wait a minute DJ. After yesterday's lynch it should have been fairly obvious that legion was town and a likely kill choice. Why didn't you protect him instead of Mets?

The main reason, Noone died N1 so I did the exact same action N2 hoping for the same result and got it so I have no issue with my choice.

[Skoffin]

Nag what is your actual role name? As reflector is a different role then to what you do.

I don't think it's too complicated. Dakky saw you target sam because you used your action on Sam. Thus far it looks like Dakky is truthful about his action (unless you two are allies, ofc. lul) Sam in turn would have targeted you, but you wouldn't have seen that as dakky tracked you and not Sam. As no one claims to have protected you we can conclude from here that Sam did not order a kill action last night, which makes me inclined to lynch him even less. I think we are better off not lynching someone that has night actions that somewhat show what they were up to last night.
And I find it a bit strange that you were suspicious of Sam for not using his night action when even you claimed to not have used yours N1 due to not having good enough intel to decide how to use it. Why did you find Sam questionable for that?


Chu, out of interest, why is Mets on your town list? Funny thing about Mets is he is playing the way I do when I'm scum, so I do not entirely trust him.

[Djfireside]

At least that helps tie the story together. I will redo my theory but I think my target remains.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Clocks ticking. We don't have a lot of time left. We need to decide on what we're going to do before the deadline hits.

Not a fan of band wagon's but it looks like it's going to come down to a last minute vote lynch.

[Skoffin]

As said, if everyone at least put forth their top suspects or even their "I won't lynch this bunch' list we could form a consensus.

I'm against lynching Legion, Nag, DDS, sam and Dakky

As it's confirmed that Sam did not put forward a kill move hopefully people will reconsider voting him.

We already have claims or partial claims from:

Legion
Nag
Dakky
DDS
DJ
Tim

We are actually only missing any form of claims from Mets, chu and myself; as such it may be best to lynch from this bunch. If one of these dudes happens to be the immunity giver then we lynch the third.