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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby Fircoal on Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:44 am

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Nope, forum frequenter, not new to mafia, just new to mafia on here if that makes sense.

You've played mafia here before o.o


Not to play the jump on new guy route but Fircoal is right, and with nothing else to run with Ill take a misstep in that and run with it, call it what you will

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Why do you find this scummy? While DDS is wrong about whether he's played here or not it has been a very long time since then, so it's understandable. I don't think he's trying to mislead anyone.
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby Fircoal on Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:45 am

Unvote. Vote: Skoffin
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby Skoffin on Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:01 am

Gosh Chu, you are right! what tomfoolery have I undertaken here?

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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby Ragian on Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:05 am

The game is slow, I'll give you that. I'm currently on vacation skiing, but I'm trying to check in at least once a day.

Now, back to business. As chu mentioned (I'm still not sure if I am allowed to use that name), it's rather weird to poke someone in an attempt to get a reaction if there's no accusation to react to. That earns a FOS from me. No need for a vote because skoffin can easily make amends.

FP'ed by skoffin making even less sense with an OMGUS vote?
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby madmitch on Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:42 am

sorry guys I have not be feeling well, or maybe I am trying to change my playing style, don't get upset Tim :lol: the votes are all over the place with no good reason for them. I don't like any votes on DDS just because he is new here and why is Nag voting for himself? :-k
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby legionnare on Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:06 pm

While I'm going to FOS skoffin for the OMGUS vote, I've not really seen much else to comment on.
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby Djfireside on Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:25 pm

Fircoal wrote:
Djfireside wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
DirtyDishSoap wrote:
Skoffin wrote: Ahoy mate, not sure if I ever played with you; if we have it was a long time ago.

Nope, forum frequenter, not new to mafia, just new to mafia on here if that makes sense.

You've played mafia here before o.o


Not to play the jump on new guy route but Fircoal is right, and with nothing else to run with Ill take a misstep in that and run with it, call it what you will

Vote DirtyDishSoap


Why do you find this scummy? While DDS is wrong about whether he's played here or not it has been a very long time since then, so it's understandable. I don't think he's trying to mislead anyone.


I got a feeling on it and took the small piece that presented itself and went with it. I even noted that the vote had very little to it in my statement

Now its strange that people are out to protect them and further validating my suspicion. Im not heartless to pick on a newer person and had a weak case but it now it seems to hold some water.
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:03 am

Djfireside wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
Djfireside wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
DirtyDishSoap wrote:
Skoffin wrote: Ahoy mate, not sure if I ever played with you; if we have it was a long time ago.

Nope, forum frequenter, not new to mafia, just new to mafia on here if that makes sense.

You've played mafia here before o.o


Not to play the jump on new guy route but Fircoal is right, and with nothing else to run with Ill take a misstep in that and run with it, call it what you will

Vote DirtyDishSoap


Why do you find this scummy? While DDS is wrong about whether he's played here or not it has been a very long time since then, so it's understandable. I don't think he's trying to mislead anyone.


I got a feeling on it and took the small piece that presented itself and went with it. I even noted that the vote had very little to it in my statement

Now its strange that people are out to protect them and further validating my suspicion. Im not heartless to pick on a newer person and had a weak case but it now it seems to hold some water.

Fircoal was correct that I had indeed played here before, I simply had forgotten that I had. Am I really going to be docked for mishandling something that I dabbled with infrequently 8+ years ago?
I find it funny that you're instantly eyeing me on D1 with no information to go on other than that I have played before and I have mishandled my own background...

With all that being said, it's confirmed, I have played here before...In 08.
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby nagerous on Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:45 pm

I am going to do something scummy here and seemingly flip flop on my initial comments, however I want to run with this so f*ck it

. Djfireside when you said 'fircoal is right' did you actually do the research in the archives and see that DDS had played back in 2008 or did you simply say 'fircoal is right' without looking it up?
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby Djfireside on Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:42 pm

nagerous wrote:I am going to do something scummy here and seemingly flip flop on my initial comments, however I want to run with this so f*ck it

. Djfireside when you said 'fircoal is right' did you actually do the research in the archives and see that DDS had played back in 2008 or did you simply say 'fircoal is right' without looking it up?


I did a forum search under mafia games for his username and found the game that they were in. Fircoal was running the game if I am not mistaken. I was not going to give all the details cause one game doesnt matter for another but for my flavor of knowledge, this proved they were aware and I was not picking on anyone.

If you dont believe me, here you go

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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby nagerous on Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:59 pm

Thanks, I played that game and it was my second game. I did think DDS had played before but wasn't sure. Do you think it is conceivable he may have forgotten? It was 9 years ago.
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby dakky21 on Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:37 pm

So 5 posts per day with 12 people in the game. Cool statistics.
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby Samlen on Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:35 pm

The real question is why does it matter whether or not they have played here before? 8 Years is a long time and easy to forget stuff and is certainly not worth a vote or really a fos. After rereading, both djfireside and nagerous were relatively quick to jump on this, almost like they were trying to start a bandwagon. Not the most concrete but it is the most suspicious thing I could find. So which one is more suspicious?
Djfireside wrote:Not to play the jump on new guy route but Fircoal is right, and with nothing else to run with Ill take a misstep in that and run with it, call it what you will
Vote DirtyDishSoap

Seems like he's taking off with the first that could be seen as 'suspicious.' Weird considering how small it seems but idk.
nagerous wrote:Joking aside that has to be viewed as a misstep and definitely worthy of a FOS.
If DDS is already going to be underplaying his mafia credentials here the question is why?

This feels like nag is trying to throw suspicion but not voting to seem more town-like and definitely feels more off.
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby TimWoodbury on Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:05 pm

Dakky you say 5 posts a day yet are you helping with that count at all?? you can say the same at me but im not one saying the game is stalling such as you are... please do take into account most us are in the other larger game as well
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby dakky21 on Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:11 pm

TimWoodbury wrote:Dakky you say 5 posts a day yet are you helping with that count at all?? you can say the same at me but im not one saying the game is stalling such as you are... please do take into account most us are in the other larger game as well


I'm in the larger game as well. Seems like you are skimming. Anyway, you didn't post anything as well. What do we have from your last post?
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby Ragian on Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:22 am

Stop measuring dicks. Neither of you guys' posts are moving the game forward.

Now, there are two things on the agenda here: 1) Has DDS played before, is he allowed to have forgotten, and does it even matter; and 2) Are dj and Nag scummy for voting and fossing respectively.

In terms of 1), I don't think there's anything to it at all. Whether or not someone remembers having played here 8 ish years ago doesn't seem alignment indicative to me. In terms of 2), I can understand why dj is going with something, anything in this snail paced game. So he gets a pass too. Usually, I would agree that Nag looks uncommittal in order to wash his hands if we offed DDS eventually. However, I thought so in the last game I played with Nag, too, and I was awfully wrong. So in my view, he's playing to his meta. Basically, I'm dismissing either side of this.

Just got to nip down for breakfast before the entire hotel turns up. I'll be back with a vote in an hour or tonight.
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:55 am

Not much to add unless we feel like beating a dead horse.
I am keeping an FOS on DJ however.
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby Skoffin on Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:27 am

Ragian wrote:The game is slow, I'll give you that. I'm currently on vacation skiing, but I'm trying to check in at least once a day.

Now, back to business. As chu mentioned (I'm still not sure if I am allowed to use that name), it's rather weird to poke someone in an attempt to get a reaction if there's no accusation to react to. That earns a FOS from me. No need for a vote because skoffin can easily make amends.

FP'ed by skoffin making even less sense with an OMGUS vote?


Quoting you as you were the most recent. chuchuchu!

In a game of no info and no posting, you make what info you can. Voting someone even for no good reason is a way to test their reaction (do they get defensive etc), how other people react to the vote (do people jump in to defend, do they try to start a wagon on me etc) and so forth. It's also a way to see whether someone is actually lurking or simply not around. Someone not around won't respond, lurkers respond to votes on themselves pretty quick.

In any case, I'm more interested in Chu now. He's playstyle matches that of pokemon mafia, along with that he's given soft defences for weak cases that won't go anywhere anyway (No one is really going to punish a guy for forgetting he played 9 years ago, surely) while seemingly finding it strange that I may test reactions for undisclosed reasons. I don't think he should be a stranger to reaction testing.
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby nagerous on Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:40 am

Samlen wrote:The real question is why does it matter whether or not they have played here before? 8 Years is a long time and easy to forget stuff and is certainly not worth a vote or really a fos. After rereading, both djfireside and nagerous were relatively quick to jump on this, almost like they were trying to start a bandwagon. Not the most concrete but it is the most suspicious thing I could find. So which one is more suspicious?
Djfireside wrote:Not to play the jump on new guy route but Fircoal is right, and with nothing else to run with Ill take a misstep in that and run with it, call it what you will
Vote DirtyDishSoap

Seems like he's taking off with the first that could be seen as 'suspicious.' Weird considering how small it seems but idk.
nagerous wrote:Joking aside that has to be viewed as a misstep and definitely worthy of a FOS.
If DDS is already going to be underplaying his mafia credentials here the question is why?

This feels like nag is trying to throw suspicion but not voting to seem more town-like and definitely feels more off.
Unvote Vote Nagerous

Did you read my other post where I backtracked or did you just choose to ignore it to support your stance ?

When I first read i thought it certainly worthy of a FOS however at that point I hadn't realised that it was 8 years ago we were talking about but thought it maybe more recent this is why when I quizzed Fireside above who actually looked it up if he saw that it was 8 years ago AND also I note only worthy of a FOS not a vote. Are all people who use the FOS scummy then your eyes.. I didn't feel it worthy of committing a vote at that moment in time
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby TimWoodbury on Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:05 am

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TimWoodbury wrote:Dakky you say 5 posts a day yet are you helping with that count at all?? you can say the same at me but im not one saying the game is stalling such as you are... please do take into account most us are in the other larger game as well


I'm in the larger game as well. Seems like you are skimming. Anyway, you didn't post anything as well. What do we have from your last post?


not skimming at all i said most. we got nothing from my last post other then pointing out your being just as inactive and pointing out the fact it was inactive if you want more posts you could post more then metion it being inactive
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby TimWoodbury on Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:08 am

Ragian wrote:Stop measuring dicks. Neither of you guys' posts are moving the game forward.

Now, there are two things on the agenda here: 1) Has DDS played before, is he allowed to have forgotten, and does it even matter; and 2) Are dj and Nag scummy for voting and fossing respectively.

In terms of 1), I don't think there's anything to it at all. Whether or not someone remembers having played here 8 ish years ago doesn't seem alignment indicative to me. In terms of 2), I can understand why dj is going with something, anything in this snail paced game. So he gets a pass too. Usually, I would agree that Nag looks uncommittal in order to wash his hands if we offed DDS eventually. However, I thought so in the last game I played with Nag, too, and I was awfully wrong. So in my view, he's playing to his meta. Basically, I'm dismissing either side of this.

Just got to nip down for breakfast before the entire hotel turns up. I'll be back with a vote in an hour or tonight.


1) game was 8 years ago do you remember a game you played 8 years ago hell i dont even know what year it was 8 years ago without looking at the calander.

2)if you vote for someone forgetting they played a game 8 years ago thats on you but kinda stupid especially when the guy did say he has played before if he said he had never played before that would be voteable
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:19 am

nagerous wrote:
Samlen wrote:The real question is why does it matter whether or not they have played here before? 8 Years is a long time and easy to forget stuff and is certainly not worth a vote or really a fos. After rereading, both djfireside and nagerous were relatively quick to jump on this, almost like they were trying to start a bandwagon. Not the most concrete but it is the most suspicious thing I could find. So which one is more suspicious?
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Seems like he's taking off with the first that could be seen as 'suspicious.' Weird considering how small it seems but idk.
nagerous wrote:Joking aside that has to be viewed as a misstep and definitely worthy of a FOS.
If DDS is already going to be underplaying his mafia credentials here the question is why?

This feels like nag is trying to throw suspicion but not voting to seem more town-like and definitely feels more off.
Unvote Vote Nagerous

Did you read my other post where I backtracked or did you just choose to ignore it to support your stance ?

When I first read i thought it certainly worthy of a FOS however at that point I hadn't realised that it was 8 years ago we were talking about but thought it maybe more recent this is why when I quizzed Fireside above who actually looked it up if he saw that it was 8 years ago AND also I note only worthy of a FOS not a vote. Are all people who use the FOS scummy then your eyes.. I didn't feel it worthy of committing a vote at that moment in time


I didn't even know how long ago (or even if I had indeed played here) it was, so I did what any other person would normally do. Back track and check, which leads me to my next point.


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nagerous wrote:I am going to do something scummy here and seemingly flip flop on my initial comments, however I want to run with this so f*ck it

. Djfireside when you said 'fircoal is right' did you actually do the research in the archives and see that DDS had played back in 2008 or did you simply say 'fircoal is right' without looking it up?


I did a forum search under mafia games for his username and found the game that they were in. Fircoal was running the game if I am not mistaken. I was not going to give all the details cause one game doesnt matter for another but for my flavor of knowledge, this proved they were aware and I was not picking on anyone.

If you dont believe me, here you go

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... tyDishSoap

While I'm happy we came to the conclusion that I played 8 some odd years ago after I mentioned it, the question is; if you saw before anyone else here how long ago it was, wouldn't you post it earlier? Or why wouldn't Fircoal post it after this whole thing blew out of proportion? Fircoal knew but more than likely didn't think anything of it initially, but naggy and yourself took it too far.
No research provided, no facts given, just an FOS and a vote. Perfect logic.
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby madmitch on Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:54 am

First of all I can hardly remembered if I played yesterday so BFD AND THIS SUBJECT OF HOW MANY POSTS WAS MADE IS ALSO NOT WORTHY to fight about, but I this moment I find Nag scummier than the rest .vote nag
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:06 am

For the people who are voting nag: are you doing it just because you disagree with him, or because you think the disagreement is alignment indicative?
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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia *D1 12/12*

Postby madmitch on Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:14 am

I voted for him because it has no effect on this game if DDS played 8 years ago or not,it should not effect this game ,now if he said he never played the game before and we found out he did then that would make a difference.
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