And I agree - it was scummy. So lets hear from him.dakky21 wrote:"OR AM I" is a different thing though, but I guess it's his way of trying to get more info from others by trying to confuse everyone with an obvious scum tell.
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And I agree - it was scummy. So lets hear from him.dakky21 wrote:"OR AM I" is a different thing though, but I guess it's his way of trying to get more info from others by trying to confuse everyone with an obvious scum tell.
saxitoxin wrote:Serbia is a RUDE DUDE
may not be a PRUDE, but he's gotta 'TUDE
might not be LEWD, but he's gonna get BOOED
RUDE
The1exile wrote:I gotta agree with Tim here, Nark. it dopes come across as you trying to say "hey, maybe i'm a trainer too" to MM with that comment. Which in turns make you ssupicious, because I'm wondering if the trainer deal is that they are actually cult or recruiting masons and they can "catch" (recruit) the pokemon in the night phase? And they have to kill the other trainers to win the game (i.e outcompete the others) - seems like the sort of mad stuff Mandy would do.
virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
TimWoodbury wrote:Doom why mention team rocket who says they even in the game are you team rocket??
This seems to straddle the line of a pretty thin excuse to vote for someone while still being an attempt to use logic. What I mean by this is that a large portion of the early votes are entirely joking and made with little to room for such nicities as logic, reasoning, or sanity. This, to me at least, instead seems to be an attempt to find the first excuse to try and start a bandwagon. In all fairness, though, you don't actually cast a vote, here...Because of the setting being what it is [Indigo League], one would think that the villians from that arc of the tv show that make an appearance in almost every episode will show up in this game in some form. Also, as they're the villians and whatnot, it could be assumed that they would be some flavour of scum.TimWoodbury wrote:Ebwop its dakky not doom posting from phone sucks
I fele strike kinda hit the nail on the head in responding to Tim's defense of his vote. I'll add on, though, that I don't really know the playing dynamic betwixt dakky and Tim. This could be perfectly normal behaviour for them. That's a potential issue that is unfortunately kinda inevitable when mingling multiple completely different groups of players -see also: dakky's comical vendetta on the chu for a vote on a nonplayer.strike wolf wrote:So knowing Dakky's history of drawing attention to himself without your help, you decided to go for the easy target?TimWoodbury wrote:The1exile wrote:Although only team rocket deal in absolutes, if I can mix my references, the exchange between dakky and Tim got me thinking. Dakky may be guessing that team rocket are in the game but Tim seems unwilling to speculate on the setup, which seems counterproductive (hence scummy) in such a large mafia. Vote Tim
nah i was just poking dakky to see what he would say, was wanting to provoke a response good or bad from dakky wich it seems he has ignored. is he ignoreing because its such a small not out there thing or does he not wanna say to much makes you go hmmmm. but for now ill give dakky a pass as he claims he is doing the same as i
Well, it didn't slip by me entirely so much as I noticed it for the wrong reason. The statement that they'd be up for lynching skoff for the red text seems too thin of a reason for me and makes me cringe. That said, I can understand -to some small degree- the excuse that this is day one. The voting for Tim, though, bothers me. You give no reason other than quoting a simple -albeit idiotic- question that was asked. It's day one. It's the time for idiotic questions Then again, it's also time to draw and quarter some poor bastard for asking the wrong idiotic question because we've got nothing better to do...I'd rather avoid that outcome...that's just the events of far too many day 1s that I've seen. Anyone, away from the rambling and back to your vote: While everyone else is just talking about it...trying to poke and see what is said, and if tim is going to slip up, you just throw a vote in with no actual explanation, and follow it up with offering to vote for someone else on no impactful reason.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Vote TimTimWoodbury wrote:Doom why mention team rocket who says they even in the game are you team rocket??
I would be up for lynching Skoffin for red text too.
I could be grasping at straws, here, but this still feels off to me...You're backing off of the failed bandwagon on Tim [of which you were the first to vote with the least explanation as to why]. That's all I see that as: you jumping off because you don't see it getting enough steam. You follow that up with turning on someone who posts infrequently and push to lynch them for that alone. They haven't done anything yet, in this game, and, at that point, they'd been more active than a number of the players, so this still just comes off as scummy as you are basing this off of nothing related to this particular game [maybe I'm being a bit touchy about someone getting a vote for infrequent posting with my barely existant activity, thus far....]WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:I will vouch for Benga being a decent player. Doesnt post mega often, but will post essays infrequently.
Just seen that Hotshot is in this game. Unvote vote Hotshot. Scumarines as scum. Scumarines as town. Easier just to lynch him now. Tim and Dakky do this every game, even if I think Tim may have truly slipped this time.
I have to agree with Nag's point a few posts later [I'm trying to not drown you in quotes, here....Probably failing miserably, but, in light of that attempt, I'll just paraphrase...It's near the bottom of page nine that Nag reasons that, while this soft claim at trainerhood isn't the wisest thing to do and is a misplay, it isn't necessarily scummy. Using the entirely black and white good/bad spectrum that the show had, you have trainers on both sides [ash, brock, and misty on one side, and team rocket on the other, to give just one quick example]BuJaber wrote:Dakky you being suspicious of my FOS... does that mean you aren't trying to get lynched?![]()
Tim is suspicious for the above mentioned reasons. Kind of a red flag to question the existence of Team Rocket. However, since it's still early and I promised myself at the end of the last game that I will second and triple guess myself before voting tim or mitch until I can understand them better, I won't vote.
This here seems (to me at least) even more suspicious than Tim. Assuming anything concrete about factions in a non standard game is scummy at worst and dangerous at best. There's been mentions of pokemon, trainers, and team rocket so far. That's at least 3. I can't help thinking that this is an attempt to gain early town credit for future use.Skittles! wrote: Idk if they are new to mafia or just not sure how to go about discussing who may be the baddie here (obvs Team Rocket and whoever leads them), but it just seems suss.
Unvote Vote Skittles
This is page nine, still...Either you're skimming or you're being scummy as all hell...From page 8:Now, this is just a heavy implication, so I guess we could assume that you didn't connect the dots, so, just to be clear:Skoffin wrote: Also, this game is Indigo league, therefore Team Rocket would be the scum team for the game. Otherwise why call it Idigo league?
And let's face it, anything past Gen 2 is inferior and not worthusing anyway.
Indigo league = Gen 1
Gen 1 Villians = Team Rocket
I'll leave that as a heavy FOS that I might change to a vote in my closing thoughts, but, presently, still torn between you and wing...
So, moving along to the MM/Nark exchange.Anarkistsdream wrote:So you are a trainer? Well golly gee. Let's put a big ol' target on you... Or maybe not. Maybe we are all trainers. But what you just said guarantees you are 1) lying to get info or 2) admiting your role... I don't like either choice.Minister Masket wrote:
Where was Pokemon roles mentioned? I assumed it would all be trainers. Then again my memory of the Indigo series is very fuzzy. I know there've been loads of trainers introduced over the years but perhaps there weren't that many way back then.
Vote: Minister Masket
This is blatant hopping on a bandwagon. I don't think there's anything else to add...madmitch wrote:@ Anark ( just lazy ) like your post about the minister, makes sense ,
more than a lot other posts. UNVOTE VOTE MINISTER MASKET
sheepofdumb wrote:I'm not scum, just a threat to the town. There's a difference, thank you very much.
ga7 wrote: I'll keep my vote where it should be but just in case Vote Strike Wolf AND f*ck FLAMINGOS f*ck THEM HARD
Anyway. Unvote vote TimTimWoodbury wrote:Doom why mention team rocket who says they even in the game are you team rocket??

Talapus wrote: I'm far more pissed that mandy and his thought process were right from the get go....damn you mandy.
@ Serbia ,This is how I usually play , I don't like writing big posts all the time,I rather read and make points to my self then get into it. I liked where my vote was ,but lately I am thinking of changing it , but maybe I won't ,I don't like the unvoting and revoting habit, it makes you look unsure of your self or just a follower.@ Skoffin sorry!!Serbia wrote:That's all fine and dandy, but I haven't played Mafia on this site in years, and only know the older players. I don't know what mitch is like, or Tim, or even you Dak, when it comes to mafia - so I have to go on what I see. If mitch is like this, let him explain it. And isn't that what Day 1 is for anyway? Besides, his first attempt at an explanation resulted in what you refer to as:
And I agree - it was scummy. So lets hear from him.dakky21 wrote:"OR AM I" is a different thing though, but I guess it's his way of trying to get more info from others by trying to confuse everyone with an obvious scum tell.
Firstly I have to say I haven't really been thinking about game mechanics so far, but I too think exile has made a very good shout there. Fits the theme very well.Anarkistsdream wrote:The1exile wrote:I gotta agree with Tim here, Nark. it dopes come across as you trying to say "hey, maybe i'm a trainer too" to MM with that comment. Which in turns make you ssupicious, because I'm wondering if the trainer deal is that they are actually cult or recruiting masons and they can "catch" (recruit) the pokemon in the night phase? And they have to kill the other trainers to win the game (i.e outcompete the others) - seems like the sort of mad stuff Mandy would do.
Dude, that is a ridiculously good thought process... Whether or not you are suspicious of me, that, sir, is an excellent idea. Also, if you will note, MM makes NO rebuke towards me, even though I am the one who voted him! He immediately moves on making more jokes and not facing up to what was said against him...
If he continues to evade, and just uses meta as an excuse, he will be my vote...
Masket! Make yourself heard.
I have a habit of making bold Day 1 posts, and it seems even after many years, old habits die hard.Anarkistsdream wrote:
So you are a trainer? Well golly gee. Let's put a big ol' target on you... Or maybe not. Maybe we are all trainers. But what you just said guarantees you are 1) lying to get info or 2) admiting your role... I don't like either choice.

IIRC Mandy said he was gonna try and not do many of the classic mafia roles. I wouldn't bank on a doc.Minister Masket wrote: Maybe my comment was a slip-up but I was only referencing the role talks from a couple pages before. Honestly I don't mind making myself a night-time target possibility because there's so much ambiguity on roles / night actions at this early stage that it's almost impossible to predict what will happen. It sure beats being the Day 1 Lynchee.![]()
A good Town Doc player watching closely combined with some daring posting can be effective in screwing over early game Scum plans.
While it makes sense to focus on one's own case. One also must pay attention to all the cases as important info can be gathered from them.Anarkistsdream wrote:
I have made a case... It is my best lead. What good does talking about these other cases do me? None, because that does not help my case.
Unvote. Vote: MasketMinister Masket wrote:It sure beats being the Day 1 Lynchee.![]()
Right but we're not talking about history. Each game is a new game in itself. While each game should be referenced to see one's normal behavoir one is not going to be scum just because they acted a scummy way in a previous game. It looks out of place to me.strike wolf wrote:It's due to Hotshot'so recent history. He's become one of the least reliable posters on the site. He's a good player when he's active but it's rare to get him active any more.Fircoal wrote:But HotShot posted twice just before you. And neither post seemed like typical scumarining. I'm all for pressuring scumariners but you can't just pick a name out of a hat and call them that. The game just started. He's done enough so far.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:I will vouch for Benga being a decent player. Doesnt post mega often, but will post essays infrequently.
Just seen that Hotshot is in this game. Unvote vote Hotshot. Scumarines as scum. Scumarines as town. Easier just to lynch him now. Tim and Dakky do this every game, even if I think Tim may have truly slipped this time.
Understood. I don't disagree with that. Metas are weird tricky things imo.DoomYoshi wrote:@ Fircoal: dakky is voting you because "they" told him that voting non-players is a scumtell. New guy's scumtell is when people get serious too early. Why is it a scumtell for him? Because "they" frowned upon it once upon a time. Both players are referencing outdated metas that have no bearing on this game. It's nice to follow some mantras like LAL and follow the cop but every now and then players need to think for themselves.
And they were wrong. I can see how indecisiveness can be seen scummy in this game but don't assume that when there can be other lolzy reasons for NPC/mod votes.dakky21 wrote: Just for the record, since all of you have been wondering, "THEY" are the people from this forum who thought me those few basic scum tell tactics. I got lynched in my 1st or 2nd game for voting mod or NPC and afterwards THEY told me that is a scum tell.
What!? No! Thinking is always an important part of being town and trying to find out who to kill. Advising to lynch without a thought is a nice way to get the loudest person to yell to lynch someone and them being lynched. You need logic or feeling over a lynch. Rushing things without comment is a great way for the scum to push the game forward without giving off much information.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote: @Fircoal. If you ever have a feeling that Hotshot isnt contributing, dont think just lynch. It is important that you guys know this. Hence my post to draw attention to it.
It was weird but going off of what others who have played with them have been saying it seems like it's more or less Tim's normal behavoir in this game. Do we need to be bringing it up again? And for what purpose? It sorta feels like you're trying to fan the flames back onto Tim and catch wind of an easy lynch.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Hotshot has acknowledged, and psst Anark, notice he said sweet piss all.
Anyway. Unvote vote TimTimWoodbury wrote:Doom why mention team rocket who says they even in the game are you team rocket??
Feel free to write more war and peace on this wierd one.
Skoffin wrote: So um.. er... I'll be honest, I don't know what the f*ck to do from here. Goddamnit chu.
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Hotshot has acknowledged, and psst Anark, notice he said sweet piss all.
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virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
I was banking on the 'almost' part of that rule being true and that there's at least some protective-type role out there. I wouldn't have thought Pokemon can defend themselves since most moves (in the games at least) are offensive.kwanton wrote: 3. No, or almost no (I'm still working on figuring out playable alternatives for the last two roles), "classic" Mafia powers are going to feature in this game.
Wonder if this counts for scum as well as town. Could scum maybe be able to do something else besides kill at night since thats what they classically do?

FYI there is a move called protect.Minister Masket wrote:I was banking on the 'almost' part of that rule being true and that there's at least some protective-type role out there. I wouldn't have thought Pokemon can defend themselves since most moves (in the games at least) are offensive.kwanton wrote: 3. No, or almost no (I'm still working on figuring out playable alternatives for the last two roles), "classic" Mafia powers are going to feature in this game.
Wonder if this counts for scum as well as town. Could scum maybe be able to do something else besides kill at night since thats what they classically do?
Skoffin wrote: So um.. er... I'll be honest, I don't know what the f*ck to do from here. Goddamnit chu.
It's really not.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Tim scum slipped. Its blatant.
In Gen 1 we called it Harden.Fircoal wrote:FYI there is a move called protect.Minister Masket wrote:I was banking on the 'almost' part of that rule being true and that there's at least some protective-type role out there. I wouldn't have thought Pokemon can defend themselves since most moves (in the games at least) are offensive.kwanton wrote: 3. No, or almost no (I'm still working on figuring out playable alternatives for the last two roles), "classic" Mafia powers are going to feature in this game.
Wonder if this counts for scum as well as town. Could scum maybe be able to do something else besides kill at night since thats what they classically do?
... it does exactly that.
However, it was only introduced in Gen II. (wow it feels like it's been around forever. SO MANY YEARS.)
I think you are underestimating the complexity of this game. It seems to me that the belief previously stated that there are factions within the town itself is probably true.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Tim scum slipped. Its blatant.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.

Talapus wrote: I'm far more pissed that mandy and his thought process were right from the get go....damn you mandy.
(I added the bold and large to this post - it did not exist in my original)Serbia wrote:I went back and re-read, and will share the actual order of events here:dakky21 wrote:And btw Serb, you are allowed to voted mandy, but that would be scummy just as is DY's voting Confirm. Actually, even mentioning you'd vote Mandy is scummy. If you don't care who will you vote, then you must be Team Rocket. I'll keep my vote on DY's joke confirm but you're the serious candidate now for something more real.So in reality, it was DAKKY who automatically accused me of being Rocket. Tim followed it up with a question, which once ignored he let lie. My opinion? With Tim, I think it more likely he was legitimately asking the question, then moving on. With dakky, I'm not as confident. Maybe HE'S the Scum Genius immediately looking for a claim, since he's the one who actually brought it up. He's also the one who revenge voted me (scummy) and is throwing suspicions around like party favors, which also feels reckless and scummy. For now, my vote stands.TimWoodbury wrote:Doom why mention team rocket who says they even in the game are you team rocket??
saxitoxin wrote:Serbia is a RUDE DUDE
may not be a PRUDE, but he's gotta 'TUDE
might not be LEWD, but he's gonna get BOOED
RUDE
Exactly, I was the first to assume the scum is Team Rocket or at least part of the scum. Tim asked a legit question which I ignored as what was the possible answer to it? It's just like asking anyone else are they scum. Waste of words typing "NO" when the whole question is based on my own assumption.Serbia wrote:The first person to mention Team Rocket was dakky, not Tim. I know when I was considering voting for Tim, it's because I thought he brought it up, but he clearly was responding to dakky.
So, the two people in my mind who are most scummy are dakky and Masket, and I'd give an edge to Masket over this, because a role claim is worse than a faction identity suggestion, especially when that faction is known to be part of the story arc. (something which again, I have no idea of, as I never played the card game, haven't pokemon go'd, and never watched a second of any cartoon. I'm an old guy I guess) I still am suspicious of mitch, for his blasé vote, but perhaps less so when I think about it in reference to the other two.
Well, I thought it was a pretty awesome catch... I also stuck to it, and was lambasted for it. So, I backed off. Trump, I mean WingCommander and, IIRC, Fircoal, were the ones who thought I had no idea what I was talking about and that I should give him the benefit of the doubt.strike wolf wrote:I think you are underestimating the complexity of this game. It seems to me that the belief previously stated that there are factions within the town itself is probably true.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Tim scum slipped. Its blatant.
@Nark: don't sell it too short. I was playing a bit of a doubting Thomas on the Masket case but there was some warrant to it.
virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
Was rereading thread (and still am so I can post something more meaningful) and noticed this interesting tidbit from day 1 starting post. The bolded part insinuates that the trainers have one pokemon already, so it's entirely possible that we could go through the thread and sniff out teams of two if we wanted to find trainer/pokemon pairs.mandalorian2298 wrote:
Professor Oak: Thank you, Reporter. Given that most of the Gym Masters have been killed, this year we decided that it would be to dangerous to keep all our fights focused on a few specific locations. Instead, I have supplied a few kids with a Pokedex and a starting pokemon, and released them into the Kanto region to find and defeat each other. The last one of them to survive will be crowned the Champion.