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Re: War on terrorism Confirm here:

Postby ptlowe on Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:12 am

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Following the attacks on the twin towers on September 11, 2001 many countries decided that they needed to handle terrorist organizations. Some tried to train them to be democratic countries while others decided to invade. During the course of these events, there was a movement that sprung up in the countries that thought the rest of the country was becoming too "Westernized". This group went by many names, but eventually became known as ISIS. At this time, there is a very loose coalition of countries that are fighting to end ISIS individually. Meanwhile ISIS has started their recruiting to try to stop what they view as a Western cultural takeover of their homeland. Day 1 has begun. First vote count will be sometime on Tuesday. With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch someone.


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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby mandalorian2298 on Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:11 am

Iron Butterfly - I hope you get well soon.

Ok, I have absolutely no idea what is going on at this point. It looks like the game disintegrated at some time during the last few days and a lot off people appear to be speaking in tongues.

It seems to me like all the vanillas (like Wing and Tobi) have been given a survival WC and they are now more interested in getting recruited and changing that something less challenging then in finding scum. Due to this, gathering enough votes for a lynch at present feels like herding cats.

Dear NATO nations (or Coalition or whatever), come Day 2 you will be facing even more daunting odds as you will have to battle not only the resistance of cowardly Survivors but also of ISIS recruited goons who are going to be impossible to distinguish from the former. I implore you to make a stand, here and now, while the enemy is still small and manageable and together we can cut of the snake's head!

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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby Ragian on Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:11 am

You want to lynch epi because he defended BG, yes? Only that, yes?

I want to lynch dakky because several of his actions are scummy to me. That, too, is taking a stand. Especially given that he has the most votes (which to me is an indicator that several people find him scummy). Don't you suspect dakky, Mandy?
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:32 am

ptlowe wrote:Wing - Good addition to the game, feels like a good guy.


What have I done to deserve this?
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby ptlowe on Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:56 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
ptlowe wrote:Wing - Good addition to the game, feels like a good guy.


What have I done to deserve this?


Just like your analytics. Insight is helpful. Also not allowing TWR to scate off with dodging the question. You seem to be a "town" player

@ragain and Mandy
I'm assuming your both soft claiming coalition with your latest posts?
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby ptlowe on Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:58 am

Ragian wrote:You want to lynch epi because he defended BG, yes? Only that, yes?

I want to lynch dakky because several of his actions are scummy to me. That, too, is taking a stand. Especially given that he has the most votes (which to me is an indicator that several people find him scummy). Don't you suspect dakky, Mandy?

I'd go dakky over epi personally what's our deadline?
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:26 am

ptlowe wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
ptlowe wrote:Wing - Good addition to the game, feels like a good guy.


What have I done to deserve this?


Just like your analytics. Insight is helpful. Also not allowing TWR to scate off with dodging the question. You seem to be a "town" player


Ok, to put it a different way, why is Tobi scum and I am not as we soft claimed the same thing.....

@Mandy, how on earth do you know THAT much about the game? Why does it come AFTER PTLowes somewhat misguided outburst?
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby Ragian on Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:16 am

ptlowe wrote:@ragain and Mandy
I'm assuming your both soft claiming coalition with your latest posts?

You are free to assume, my friend :)
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:59 am

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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby Epitaph1 on Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:19 am

I hope you feel better soon, IB.

I don't get the town read on Wing. He seems neutral to me. Btw, I think it's too early to rule out a mafia. Just because the opening scene referred to ISIS recruiting doesn't mean there aren't other forces at play.

Again, Mandy is gunning for me because I made it known early that I suspected him. My read on BG is that he's playing how he normally plays as town lately. Therefore, I'm scum in Mandy's eyes. I can't tell if Mandy is scummy/3p or just misguided townie. Either way wouldn't surprise me.

Bu's last post has me leaning town on him, particularly the part about switching factions.
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby mandalorian2298 on Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:47 am

Ragian wrote:You want to lynch epi because he defended BG, yes? Only that, yes?

I want to lynch dakky because several of his actions are scummy to me. That, too, is taking a stand. Especially given that he has the most votes (which to me is an indicator that several people find him scummy). Don't you suspect dakky, Mandy?


No.

Yes.

If you want a more complete answer try...wait for it...reading the posts that I have written earlier. I am not going to write it all again just to empower your skimming.

ptlowe wrote:@ragain and Mandy
I'm assuming your both soft claiming coalition with your latest posts?


I am not claiming shit, since a) it's Day 1 and b) I'm not at lynch -1.

If, on the other hand, you are asking if I'm "soft claiming" that I'm not scum then my answer is yes. Aren't you? :shock:
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby madmitch on Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:47 am

we have 4 people at 2 votes and 1 at 4 votes, in my eyes there just not enough proof against anyone yet and I don;t plan on killing any innocent people.
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby dakky21 on Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:55 am

BGtheBrain wrote:So, are we ready to kill dakky yet?


BG, may I quote all your 8 (EIGHT) posts in one reply:

conform


Key rules to note:


"D1 is crap, D1 is pointless, spin the random wheel or no lynch..."


lol, I have nothing to add really.

I dont particularly care for D1. I feel like its a waste of time/energy. Short of having a day cop, the day ends with someone randomly being (mis)lynched. That someone typically is the person who talks the most and tries to get stuff done. In TNC's 50+ games, I was that guy for most of them. So D1 always had me trying to find the tiniest shred of evidence, but it would end up with me being forced to claim.


I think mandalorian2298 has skimmed...


lol well my question has been answered


vote dakky21


So, are we ready to kill dakky yet?


So what exactly have you added to this game yet? You're being here and just staying under the radar. Everyone else posted something valuable. You're more scummier than I am, but people are still "considering your play is normal for D1"... while I actually tried to scumhunt and got accused.
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby BuJaber on Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:09 pm

Epitaph1 wrote:Bu, I think your reads are helpful. Could you give a little more reason behind the following though:

ptlowe
madmitch
iron butterfly
hotshot

None of these guys have been terribly active this game and so I haven't gotten a read on them one way or the other. I'm on the fence about floyd right now, maybe leaning town. I thought his comments about Winston were serious, but sometimes I miss sarcasm when I'm reading mafia.


Like I said, this was my initial list. I like to mentally put people in groups and then change them around when more information is presented. So a lot of this is gut feeling only.

ptlowe was initially a town read because of this:
BuJaber wrote:ptlowe barely offers any reasoning for his vote against me. He thinks I'm scum because I claimed town. That's it. That is not proof and it just makes him look like someone looking for a quick target. Kind of an aggressive post though, which tends to be a town thing based on my experience. So I'm keeping an eye out for you pt out of mutual respect, but yeah your post makes me think you're town.


I am a little less sure now. Why is everyone making a big deal about the words people are using? It's a theme game yes, but it's still a mafia game. There is still a vague notion of mafia vs town. You can call it whatever you want, when someone makes a post that makes sense and your only problem with it is that he/she used the wrong word to describe the coalition or ISIS or whoever and NOT the actual reasoning, that reads scummy to me.
Also I personally don't know if the coalition is the only enemy of ISIS in this game, LSU has kept everything intentionally vague. If someone else is hunting them then I'd want to help them out.. enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that. There is no point getting lost the specific details of the game's theme and quoting the host's opening words religiously. For all we know it's just his writing style. Focus on who's who in Day 1, because as we all know by now, roles could change. (Which by the way is why I was pushing for claiming. A few people claim day 1, we agree on a lynch, we move on to day 2, where everyone has to prove themselves again. Claiming works for this type of game better than any other game specifically because the roles could later change, so there is an urgency attached to it.)
BTW why does pt like Wing so much? We don't know who he's playing for yet and not only did pt say he'd love to have wing play, but he's read him as town already. May I know the secret way of earning your trust pt?
I'm sure Wing and all of you are wonderful people but that doesn't matter when analyzing the game. Nice people get scum roles too.

madmitch
He doesn't seem to have any vendetta against someone in particular. When he doesn't understand something he questions it first, and if he likes the explanation he moves on. He is not arguing pedantically and trying hard to discredit someone. He's not very active but he's around. Doesn't mean he can't be scum/ISIS (whatever you want to call it) but it feels like he's town to me.

HotShot
Not very active, and I felt that his posts don't really add much to the discussion.

Iron Butterfly
I don't know why I said he was town. I'm not finding anything to suggest he's either. Just neutral for now, he really hasn't posted much to go on.

Glad you're okay IB.


I'm not convinced about dakky, but no lynch seems like a really bad idea, especially in a potentially unbalanced setup like this. If nobody else offers a better target I'll switch my vote to him. I have him as scum for an initial read anyway but it's just a feeling and dakky has a way of appearing scummy at all times.

Those voting for dakky, help me out, tell me why I should switch; why him over TWR, Epi, Ptlowe, BG and some of the others who aren't saying much. Everyone agreed that while dakky's list was lazy and didn't offer much in terms of insight, post count is still usually a pretty good indicator. But we're focusing on the guy posting the list and we're ignoring the ones who are barely participating. I say we consider all options.




Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but Mandy did a lot more than just soft claim. He pretty much told everyone which country he is in the first few pages.
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:24 pm

BuJaber wrote:Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but Mandy did a lot more than just soft claim. He pretty much told everyone which country he is in the first few pages.


hehe, but you'd notice that because of what you said. And now thats out there, Mandy please explain why you think you know about coalition, villager and ISIS and supposed lack of any other entitities?

Mandy wrote:Dear NATO nations (or Coalition or whatever), come Day 2 you will be facing even more daunting odds as you will have to battle not only the resistance of cowardly Survivors but also of ISIS recruited goons who are going to be impossible to distinguish from the former. I implore you to make a stand, here and now, while the enemy is still small and manageable and together we can cut of the snake's head!


Epitaph wrote: Btw, I think it's too early to rule out a mafia. Just because the opening scene referred to ISIS recruiting doesn't mean there aren't other forces at play.


I dont doubt that there are, but I dont give a s**t until ISIS are dead.
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:23 pm

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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby mandalorian2298 on Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:17 pm

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BuJaber wrote:Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but Mandy did a lot more than just soft claim. He pretty much told everyone which country he is in the first few pages.


hehe, but you'd notice that because of what you said. And now thats out there, Mandy please explain why you think you know about coalition, villager and ISIS and supposed lack of any other entitities?



How about I trade you. You quote the post in which I postulate the lack of any other entities and I shall then proceed to tell you why I think I know what I think about the rest of that stuff.
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:52 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
BuJaber wrote:Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but Mandy did a lot more than just soft claim. He pretty much told everyone which country he is in the first few pages.


hehe, but you'd notice that because of what you said. And now thats out there, Mandy please explain why you think you know about coalition, villager and ISIS and supposed lack of any other entitities?



How about I trade you. You quote the post in which I postulate the lack of any other entities and I shall then proceed to tell you why I think I know what I think about the rest of that stuff.


I quoted it, you edited it out.
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby madmitch on Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:10 pm

@ BG then your eyes must be crossed, just because I didn't jump on your band wagon I must be bad . better look in the mirror because you got sisi printed on your forehead . I am ready to join in but would like a little more proof, don't want anyone killed by friendly fire
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby dakky21 on Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:43 pm

Just a quick question.... why do you all skimmed my post about BG? 8 posts without saying anything except vote for me, without any reason? Now his first suspect is Mitch, without changing vote to him? Why no one asks about that? BG is "playing normally for D1" ? WTF. Looks like he would mis-lynch anyone, just as he said in the first few posts. "Don't waste your energy guys, lets just get over with it" isn't scummy at all. Right...
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby BuJaber on Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:00 pm

dakky21 wrote:Just a quick question.... why do you all skimmed my post about BG? 8 posts without saying anything except vote for me, without any reason? Now his first suspect is Mitch, without changing vote to him? Why no one asks about that? BG is "playing normally for D1" ? WTF. Looks like he would mis-lynch anyone, just as he said in the first few posts. "Don't waste your energy guys, lets just get over with it" isn't scummy at all. Right...


Yup his response to you is sub-par to say the least.

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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby dakky21 on Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:10 pm

Call it bandwagoning, but I actually given my reasons this time.

vote BGtheBrain

Though, for some reason, I have a feeling like he wants to be killed. Could be a tempered bomb... or something like that.
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby Ragian on Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:30 am

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Ragian wrote:You want to lynch epi because he defended BG, yes? Only that, yes?

I want to lynch dakky because several of his actions are scummy to me. That, too, is taking a stand. Especially given that he has the most votes (which to me is an indicator that several people find him scummy). Don't you suspect dakky, Mandy?


No.

Yes.

If you want a more complete answer try...wait for it...reading the posts that I have written earlier. I am not going to write it all again just to empower your skimming.

ptlowe wrote:@ragain and Mandy
I'm assuming your both soft claiming coalition with your latest posts?


I am not claiming shit, since a) it's Day 1 and b) I'm not at lynch -1.

If, on the other hand, you are asking if I'm "soft claiming" that I'm not scum then my answer is yes. Aren't you? :shock:

Empowering my skimming :roll: I read it at some point and forgot. Exsqueeze me for not keeping anal notes on everything. I know loads of you guys do that, but that would take away a lot of fun for me.

Anyway, I don't get why you're not voting dakky if you suspect him. I'm not going to change to voting epi.

Also, if you're not sure what ptlowe is softclaiming, then I really don't get you.
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby Ragian on Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:41 am

Sorry for the double post. Trigger finger.

madmitch wrote:we have 4 people at 2 votes and 1 at 4 votes, in my eyes there just not enough proof against anyone yet and I don;t plan on killing any innocent people.

So, what's your plan for tomorrow, then? Relying on PRs?

@dakky, this is how BG plays. It's not alignment indicative. I'm not sure what to tell you. Do you want to waterboard him till he adds more? I got annoyed with his play at first. Mainly because he a) often is right and b) at least stirs the waters so much that somethings jumps out. Also, he's hardly staying under the radar given that loads of you point to this.

@BuJ, I'll address your dakky question later today.
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Re: War on terrorism Day 1 has begun

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:30 am

Ragian wrote:Also, if you're not sure what ptlowe is softclaiming, then I really don't get you.


This concerns me too.

Mandy has;

Soft claimed America early in game,
Claimed to know a tonne about the game set up
Doesnt understand why PTLowe is the most blatant confused town since time began

Those three dont stack up together.

But Talapus appears to have taken the stay quiet approach to avoiding my wrath so I am not switching yet.
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