cmddeisel and Healybr[es]

[CanuckSteve]

Accused:

Healybr
cmddeisel


The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy
more?

Game number(s): Registered together
16161575
16197489
16163378
16113570
16079501
15960068
15960068
15504049


Comments:

always registered together. Many times, one of them wins. Not saying cheating, but strange that they register together so often.

[Jdsizzleslice]

Accused: Healybr and cmbdiesel

The accused are suspected of: Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s): Registered together
Game 16161575
Game 16197489
Game 16163378
Game 16113570
Game 16079501
Game 15960068
Game 15960068
Game 15504049

Comments: always registered together. Many times, one of them wins. Not saying cheating, but strange that they register together so often.

[Koganosi]

Half of those havent started, there is a teamgame in there, a game in which they dont even play together.

And from what I see, there is alot of diplomacy in chat. So dont think they are multies. But I think they are friends though!

Urs

Koganosi

[CanuckSteve]

I did not go through all the games in detail. Internet too slow to China (also why I often log in from Canada). This would require tie and some analysis to confirm my suspicions.

on the surface, seems these two "friends" join games with the intention of forming alliances. They join together, and seldom fight each other. Maybe even agree who will win which games. Seems to be against the spirit of the games.

I have some people I play with often, such as King Bruce. We do for alliances, but we also fight against each other . This situation seems to be only alliances formed before the game starts. Announcing it after the game starts does not seem right

[owenshooter]

I have some people I play with often, such as King Bruce. We do for alliances, but we also fight against each other .

so, this is ok, but only when you are involved and when one of your or your friends wins? i'm confused... you are turning someone in for something that you, yourself, do... hmmm... if you feel it is a rule violation, then why do you do it with your friends? oh, yes... right... because you like THAT outcome over the one that is going on now. if the diplomacy is in the game chat, everything is above the board... if it is too frequent, they may be warned... if the mods are smart, they will look into your admission of doing the same... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-as a guy with real life friends on the site. may i suggest just playing team games with them. it makes this sort of report non-essential

[CanuckSteve]

there is a difference between forming an alliance with a regular opponent and joining singles games together with a plan to to work as a team prior to the game and an agreement who will win when you have eliminated everyone else.

a look at the end of 16197489 will show cmddeisel attacking and healybr simply placing armies and passing. Looks like the fix was in before the game started.

but that is for the mods to check out, not me, nor others with opinions. The rules are in place. It is not a democracy.

As for the comments by owenshooter, I never joined a game - let alone many games as seems to be the case here - with another player, and a plan in place to form an alliance including an agreement on who would, win before the game begins. If I am playing against a regular opponent, and it is good for us to form an alliance, then we do. This is AFTER the game begins, not before. Also, there is never an agreement on who will win. I often states the truce is over when only three players are left, because I feel a truce with only three players is not fair. But that is just me.

I suspect this situation is the same reason we don't allow multis. Please explain what the difference between A) two people forming an alliance before the game starts, with an agreement on who will win the game and B) a multi?

That strategy is for team games .... jot individual games

[iAmCaffeine]

Please explain what the difference between A) two people forming an alliance before the game starts, with an agreement on who will win the game and B) a multi?

A multi is the same person using more than one (multiple) accounts. The first scenario would be secret diplomacy. Both are forbidden.

Regardless, it is often recommended to only play private or team games with real life friends to avoid any bias. This isn't always required of course.

[Evil Semp]

cmdeisel and healybr have been WARNED for secret diplomacy. They have been blocked from playing any more games together. They will be allowed to finish any games that are ongoing.

[cmbdiesel]

WAA WAA WAA... what a rube you are canook... all alliances were clearly in the chat.
It's your own fault that you didn't read it. Also, I would say that in general, clanmates and people who have played many games together will tend to attack others before a known compatriot. You may want to try doing the due diligence before you join games, rather than doing it after.... at least then your keyboard won't get rusty from the tears....
You have a legitimate reason to be miffed, but only in your lousy gameplay.
Look at the log, and see who attacked me round to round, almost no one. Even after I started drawing 11 on round three.
Face it, you had a bad game, so you ran to mommy yelling 'they cheated' Total pansy.
Furthermore, your other accusations are completely baseless, as it was a fog game, so you have zero idea where troops were being deployed.
Please foe me, so I don't have to destroy you in yet another game, which will no doubt result on more whimpering to the mods.

Nice move putting all this up after ratings closed, because you have certainly identified yourself as a 1 star hero

[cmbdiesel]

I direct one's attention to game Game 12613554
King Bruce and Canook Steve seem to have started the game with prior knowledge of the the others position, or they were just super lucky that neither of them deployed into each others way in South America or Oceania.... which enabled them to both hold bonuses inside of three rounds.

Looks like cheating to me.

[cmbdiesel]

Further investigation seems to reveal that Canook and King Bruce have a tendency to join freestyle games with manual deployment.
Then, huge surprise here..... they don't end up deploying next to each other, and routinely end up with bonuses quickly by taking each others singles....
Not sure if this is adhering to the spirit of the site.... of course, I'm an adult so it doesn't make a huge difference to me what these guys do.
BUT.... possibly they should be banned from anymore games together.
Certainly what is good for the goose should be good for the gander.

[cmbdiesel]

Foe'd by Canook, after a breathless, whiny wall post (rife with spelling errors... again... a professor.. really??? of what? underwater basket weaving??)
A poor showing indeed, but what should one expect from a guy who's signature is this -
"SICK and FUCKING Tired of playing with assholes who's strategy is to come second."

In general, seems a twisted and unhappy person, who likely puts way too much emotional ante into an online game.

Best of luck Sergeant Canook, may no one ever rain upon you your faults which you find in others=D>

[cmbdiesel]

Half of those havent started, there is a teamgame in there, a game in which they dont even play together.

And from what I see, there is alot of diplomacy in chat. So dont think they are multies. But I think they are friends though!

Urs

Koganosi

clanmates from way back.

[cmbdiesel]

Boy, a further review of Canook's 'ratings left' really indicates a guy with a problem....
https://www.conquerclub.com/player.php? ... anuckSteve

I think someone should take a vacation from CC and maybe go to a couple self help seminars.

[iAmCaffeine]

If you believe CanuckSteve has broken any rules then you should make a separate C&A report.

[Koganosi]

of course, I'm an adult so it doesn't make a huge difference to me what these guys do.

I like how you are saying you are an adult and it doenst make a huge difference to you, but you keep spamming this post with whatever you can find. You should just foe the guy and move on.

Also if you wanne report him for any diplomacy feel free, but make sure you do it in another topic, caus the mods wont take a look in this one.

Next to that if you think your ban is unfair, try asking a second opinion or something through e-ticket. On the right top corner of your screen is a help button, you should be able to do it there.

Also, I would say that in general, clanmates and people who have played many games together will tend to attack others before a known compatriot.

You work that way I guess, I dont. I atack where I need and have to, if that means atacking my friends or clan members, makes no difference to me!

Urs

Koganosi