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[thechuck51]

anybody else find it funny how much alladinsane seems to know about IB's role?

IF Town roles are based around the Security of an Asylum or something to that effect then that tell me why that would be funny??

It tells me there may be something funny about you as well.

Why are you looking for other people to agree with you instead of making a case or you own theory. It almost seems you are putting bait out there hoping people bite.

Your leaning scum to me.

are you saying you know alladinsane's role is related to the security of an asylum?

I am town and as far as i can tell my role has absolutely nothing to do with the security of an asylum so you will have to forgive me for not taking everything you say as gospel.

[PLAYER57832]

Real life apologies here. A coworker's house burned, with 2 family members not making it out. We have been scrambling to cover his shifts and deal with things. I am going to try to hold my own until a substitute can be found, but this is not the best time for me to start and learn a brand new game. My mind is on things other than CC. Again, apologies to all.

Sorry to hear. Hope all is well.

I am doing fine, just tired from working long shifts. He-- not so well, as is expected.
He is just out of high school, his mother and half brother passed, his step father may not make it. The community is pulling together. I don't know him that well, he just started in Nov, but I guess we all feel it some. I am mostly just tired from working extra hours, but others are going to be able to fill in next week.

So, if you want to keep me in the game, fine. If not..that is OK, too. I will watch from the sidelines.

[Iron Butterfly]

anybody else find it funny how much alladinsane seems to know about IB's role?

IF Town roles are based around the Security of an Asylum or something to that effect then that tell me why that would be funny??

It tells me there may be something funny about you as well.

Why are you looking for other people to agree with you instead of making a case or you own theory. It almost seems you are putting bait out there hoping people bite.

Your leaning scum to me.

are you saying you know alladinsane's role is related to the security of an asylum?

I am town and as far as i can tell my role has absolutely nothing to do with the security of an asylum so you will have to forgive me for not taking everything you say as gospel.

I capitalized IF for a reason.

[ptlowe]

Last game TWR was this quiet he was mafia.

VOTE TWR(THE WHITE ROSE)

[Metsfanmax]

How many games have you been in with the white rose?

[AladdinSane]

anybody else find it funny how much alladinsane seems to know about IB's role?

NO. I am simply using common sense. The lower number of votes, I assume is to help reach a consensus day one easier. It would be harder for mafia/anti Towns to stonewall in hopes of a no lynch, which would benefit the bad guys.

It also tells me that night one will have several deaths so the numbers may be thinned.

I have used the full extent of my role...AGAIN I have stated this several times.

Well, IB seems too be saying I read more into his words than he intended. But he DID say erlier we need to reed between the lines, so that's what I did.

I still think my theory might be correct, but that IB doesn't know teh full extent of HotShot's roll. I don't think the inmates will be modkilled for not voting; I think they will be allowed to vote but, as I said before, they obviously won't want to vote HotShot, since he is their chance for getting out at this point.

Obviously, this is all speculation. But it DOES help explain teh special condition.

[AladdinSane]

It literally makes no sense for there to be 8 players who cannot vote and would therefore be modkilled if we don't do anything. Pure absurdity. Stop speculating like that.

I agree. I think it makes sense to conclude that, if there is an asylum guard, there are probably asylum prisoners. However, I think they would be allowed to vote. It's just that they won't help lynch HotShot, thus the special condition.

[AladdinSane]

maybe his imagination is running wild or maybe he's a little over-eager to help IB get hot shot lynched.

oh and I don't think I noticed any mis-spelled words in that second post? That would be at least the second time he didn't follow his claimed post-restriction.

It's just speculation on my part, thechuck. I'm trying to come up with a thery that explains IB's claim, teh special condition etc. and this is what I have come up with.

An yer rite, I do ferget the mispelings sometimes becos it doesnt com natchural to me. LOL, I get flak if I mispel a lot and flak if I dont mispel enuf.

[rizky_biznezz]

@PLAYER sorry to hear u are having a rough time... i haven't been able to spend much time in here yet either but thanks for explaining ur absence, i am happy for you to stay and see if things calm down in the next week or so...

i havent made up my mind yet... aladdin has some good ideas and i thought was making a good attempt to explain things that might be going on so i was leaning more town.. suppose its possible its a big set-up by aladdin and/or IB and town is about to make a huge mistake, but hotshot hasn't really done much to convince us of anything... it does seem a little suss that if Hotshot is so important that we got him handed to us as an easy lynch though..

guess we aren't really going to see what we are dealing with until D2..

[AladdinSane]

suppose its possible its a big set-up by aladdin and/or IB and town is about to make a huge mistake, but hotshot hasn't really done much to convince us of anything... it does seem a little suss that if Hotshot is so important that we got him handed to us as an easy lynch though..

I want to stress that these are just ideas I am putting out there for comment. I don't have any special knowledge of the situation, and I'm not pushing for a HotShot lynch at this point - that's why I haven't voted. My theory is simply based on the info in IB's claim (that he is an asylum guard etc.), the existence of the special condition, and the fact that several players seem to have maintained a silence long into D1. I think we do need to think this through rather than just rush into a lynch. There's plenty of time, let's wait for others to add their input. Also, I agree with Rizky - we need to hear more from HotShot about why we shouldn't lynch him.

[AladdinSane]

Sory...fergot too mispel agin.

[AladdinSane]

Today the first wave of pokes will go out to those who have failed to post (or even confirm). They will have 48 hours to reply, before they are replaced.

The deadline approacheth. Will be interesting to see what happens.

There is actualy a degree of subtlty in the wording of this: Note that the pokees only have to reply to the poke to avoid replacement; they don't have to actually post. That means that anyone who cannot post yet because of their role (incarcerated loonies, for example) can survive without posting. So, once the deadline had passed, we should look hard at anyone who has not posted since Streaker's warning and yet not been replaced.

[the white rose]

Last game TWR was this quiet he was mafia.

VOTE TWR(THE WHITE ROSE)

oh really?

seems you have not forgiven me for lynching you when i was doublevoter.

I do have a life you know, and no time to post every hour, especially in the first few days of D1, when lets face it there is precious little to post about.

FWIW Aladdin seems to have good ideas, my vote on him was solely to him annoying me with all this misspelling, sometimes hard to even work out what he has been saying. However, when he has kept it to a minimum his ideas seem sound.

Having said that, I am not convinced of the urgency to lynch either of them today,,,,,I could be persuaded to vote for either of them, but not yet, wanna think a bit more about it.....but for now Aladdin has earned this >>>>> unvote but keep this misspelling down to a minimum mate otherwise i may reconsider

[PLAYER57832]

Is it possible that IR is something like an escaped lunatic pretending to be a townie? Maybe to win, IR has to stay hidden, helping as if a townie, but not really?

Just to clarify, when will day 1 end? Sort of lost track, sorry.

[Ragian]

It literally makes no sense for there to be 8 players who cannot vote and would therefore be modkilled if we don't do anything. Pure absurdity. Stop speculating like that.

First:

... so I don't even think that it's plausible.

Moreover, who said anything about eight? I never mentioned a number. You inferred that I meant everyone not voting. I never did. Stop with the imperatives like that.

[Metsfanmax]

It literally makes no sense for there to be 8 players who cannot vote and would therefore be modkilled if we don't do anything. Pure absurdity. Stop speculating like that.

First:

... so I don't even think that it's plausible.

If you really don't think it's plausible, then don't bring it up. You're intentionally obfuscating the debate by suggesting things that aren't realistic, which is bad for town.

Moreover, who said anything about eight? I never mentioned a number. You inferred that I meant everyone not voting. I never did. Stop with the imperatives like that.

In your speculation, this was given as the reason why we might need four fewer people for a lynch. In order for 11 to be the lynch majority and your hypothesis to hold true, that would require there to be only 20 eligible voters, meaning eight ineligible voters. It was an obvious conclusion from your statement.

[HotShot53]

I made it safely to brazil, but been kind of busy with all the traveling and all, so haven't had time to catch up yet. As to what I meant by saying a lynched usually targets a role rather than a player, I meant that I thought a lyncher usually is "lynch the role cop" rather than "lynch madmitch". It'd be too easy for them if they just had one person to lynch and knew exactly who it was immediately. So that's why I'm not really sure how IB knows he wants to lynch me so much.

My role doesn't seem to refer to anything about an insane asylum, so I'm not sure what that's about. And I do not have any killing powers; anyone is welcome to follow me around tonight and they'll see that I don't kill someone. Since it seems I will be killed if I don't defend myself with a claim or something, I will say that I am a survivor, my whole goal is getting to endgame (hopefully with town). So I guess it's IB's goal to lynch me, and my goal to just stay alive. As a third party survivor, my death won't help town at all since some scum could be happy to join in lynching me also; the results of the vote won't help anything.

[Iron Butterfly]

Last game TWR was this quiet he was mafia.

VOTE TWR(THE WHITE ROSE)

oh really?

seems you have not forgiven me for lynching you when i was doublevoter.

I do have a life you know, and no time to post every hour, especially in the first few days of D1, when lets face it there is precious little to post about.

FWIW Aladdin seems to have good ideas, my vote on him was solely to him annoying me with all this misspelling, sometimes hard to even work out what he has been saying. However, when he has kept it to a minimum his ideas seem sound.

Having said that, I am not convinced of the urgency to lynch either of them today,,,,,I could be persuaded to vote for either of them, but not yet, wanna think a bit more about it.....but for now Aladdin has earned this >>>>> unvote but keep this misspelling down to a minimum mate otherwise i may reconsider

Noone has asked nor expects anyone to post every hour, yeh I know it is an exaggeration, but sounds like a rationalization to legitimize your almost complete absence.

You also believe their is precious little to post about? Have you been reading?

I would be curious on what exactly you need to think about some more. Here I am!! You have the source right in front of you.What is it you are confused about? What is it about my claim you need to question?

Let me ask YOU this. What do you NEED to be persuaded to vote for ME or to vote for Hotshot?

Obviously there is only so much information that can be given before an intelligent decision can be reached on your part. What more is it you need?

You believe we are both mafia?
You believe we are both Town?

Ptlowe is right about how you were caught the last game you were mafia. I knew it as well. As Town you are Sherlock Holmes as mafia you seemed to have the newbie psychological disadvantage of not knowing how to act like Town while being mafia.

[Iron Butterfly]

I made it safely to brazil, but been kind of busy with all the traveling and all, so haven't had time to catch up yet. As to what I meant by saying a lynched usually targets a role rather than a player, I meant that I thought a lyncher usually is "lynch the role cop" rather than "lynch madmitch". It'd be too easy for them if they just had one person to lynch and knew exactly who it was immediately. So that's why I'm not really sure how IB knows he wants to lynch me so much.

My role doesn't seem to refer to anything about an insane asylum, so I'm not sure what that's about. And I do not have any killing powers; anyone is welcome to follow me around tonight and they'll see that I don't kill someone. Since it seems I will be killed if I don't defend myself with a claim or something, I will say that I am a survivor, my whole goal is getting to endgame (hopefully with town). So I guess it's IB's goal to lynch me, and my goal to just stay alive. As a third party survivor, my death won't help town at all since some scum could be happy to join in lynching me also; the results of the vote won't help anything.

I will agree he must last till end game for him to win. I am actually grateful he came forward with that information. I win as long as he is dead by endgame, weather I die or not. This is why I did not mind coming forward with a possibility of being lynched.

The only thing I know 100% is that he needs to survive till endgame. I also know he will cause great harm if allowed to live. I do not know how he will do it.

I am Town. He is a survivor. We saw what happened when we have let survivors live last game and several games in fact. A survivor ONLY does what is good for them.

He is NOT Town.

[Iron Butterfly]

Actually I think he is lying about being a survivor. Forgot to add that.

He can not say he is mafia.
He can not say he is third party=SK= Duh
He could have said he was Town to confuse the issue but did not, so he is not Town.

Not like he has to many choices to many.

Offering to sit on his ass tonight and do nothing proves nothing and just wastes a Town investigative role as well. It also gives mafia a chance to mix it up or confuse it.

So again another game where day one Town is given an anti Town to lynch over taking a shot at killing mafia.

Do you go for the sure thing or do you try and hit mafia in a 28 player game?

[StorrZerg]

"another game"

i mean we lynch him because he was forced to claim 3p. + we have your w/e shit. So its possible he is lying. (good news, he can't be town though)

if he truly is just a survivor it isn't anti town. Its lynching a non mafia/ non town. Shit seems pretty weird though regarding a survivor getting dicked over by a role like yours ib. So, i think something interesting will be learned from the lynch. doesn't sit right, in a good way at least.

like to use more of day 1 to flesh out peoples thoughts but thats just me.

[StorrZerg]

not to mention get some people to talk who haven't..

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I win as long as he is dead by endgame, weather I die or not.

I am Town. He is a survivor.

Umm... in what world has this ever been the definition of town?

[degaston]

He is a survivor. We saw what happened when we have let survivors live last game and several games in fact. A survivor ONLY does what is good for them.

Anyone who was in the Harry Potter game knows that I'd prefer to lynch a 3rd party over a weak case on a claimed town.

What does the 3rd party from that game say?

also i think you guys messed up, imma take that MVP token shoulda killed me.

But there is still plenty of time in D1. Maybe a better target can be found.

Is it possible that IR is something like an escaped lunatic pretending to be a townie? Maybe to win, IR has to stay hidden, helping as if a townie, but not really?

Are you talking about IB here?

[Whatsausage]

I win as long as he is dead by endgame, weather I die or not.

I am Town. He is a survivor.

Umm... in what world has this ever been the definition of town?

Thank you /, I had the exact same thought reading that. Also confusing: he stated after hotshot's "claim" that he was 100% sure that hotshot had to survive until the end of the game and calls him a survivor. He then says that he forgot to add that he doesn't think hotshot is a survivor