[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[Metsfanmax]

Ok, fair enough. I get it now. I'll drop it.

[StorrZerg]

Honestly if rather not lynch either ib or hotshot since I believe neither will result in a anti town kill

[StorrZerg]

Sorry for the inactivity. I'm having log in issues. When I login it takes me to my games page or whatever but if I try to go to the forum or inbox or anything else it makes me log in again then takes me back to my games and the process repeats.

Looks like I can log in from my phone but it's going to be a nightmare to play this way.

Anybody have this problem before? Any ideas? Thanks

Login issue temp fix.
When you on main page after login, logout. Login again on main page. Then attempt to go to forum. If that fails, click red star, logout, log back in. Pain in the ass

[Iron Butterfly]

Honestly if rather not lynch either ib or hotshot since I believe neither will result in a anti town kill

You just went up on my scum-0-meter.

While my role makes me seem an island unto myself I would NOT be surprised that there would be other roles created to counter my "job". In fact I am fairly certain that is the case.

Something to keep in mind.

[StorrZerg]

Honestly if rather not lynch either ib or hotshot since I believe neither will result in a anti town kill

You just went up on my scum-0-meter.

While my role makes me seem an island unto myself I would NOT be surprised that there would be other roles created to counter my "job". In fact I am fairly certain that is the case.

Something to keep in mind.

Until you make an effort to help town, rather than your own person wincon, I will not be voting for you or hotshot.

It might be ok. It will end with a score of people with little or no actual input on who they think is town or mafia. I'm not ok with this.

[AladdinSane]

Alladin get to using at least readable English or suffer the consequences

1. If speling is more important to you than winning, do what you will.

2. I've alredy said I am going to tone down the misspelling. If you had been reading more carefully, you would have seen this.

3. Don't make threats like that - it just makes you look like a funkin deckhead

[AladdinSane]

For the record, I have a 100% win rate in my Mafia games (from 1 completed game).

Were you town or mafia in that game?

I was Town.

[Iron Butterfly]

I can say this as well. I do not need to be involved with specific lynches. It does not have to happen today or even tommorow but as the game wears on eventually it WILL need to be addressed. All your doing is giving more potential kills or havoc to anti town.

Unvote

I could easily of have sat back and let the odds fall where they may. No sweat off my brow. I am Town with a win condition that goes hand in hand with helping Town.

The only thing I can do now is use my vote, my voice and reminding folks that I have pointed the way to a lynch good for Town.

I come from the school of "lynch all liars". As Town I do not lie or tell half truths to serve my win conditions.

So you either believe I am a liar, who is just a self serving his own interests, which you should lynch for lying.

OR believe I am telling the truth about my simple role.

[Iron Butterfly]

Get your asses in here and play.

4. benga
5. TimWoodbury
6. mtamburini (Available from Jan 3rd)
7. pancakemix
11. thechuck51
15. DJPatrick
20. rizky_biznezz
21. the warrior65
22. Whatsausage
25. PLAYER57832
27. CatchersMitt14
28. degaston

I have a feeling we will not hear from several of these players ever. If I made a mistake on list sorry. It is not a list of who I think is scum but more about participation.

[Marashu]

I can say this as well. I do not need to be involved with specific lynches. It does not have to happen today or even tommorow but as the game wears on eventually it WILL need to be addressed. All your doing is giving more potential kills or havoc to anti town.

Unvote

I could easily of have sat back and let the odds fall where they may. No sweat off my brow. I am Town with a win condition that goes hand in hand with helping Town.

The only thing I can do now is use my vote, my voice and reminding folks that I have pointed the way to a lynch good for Town.

I come from the school of "lynch all liars". As Town I do not lie or tell half truths to serve my win conditions.

So you either believe I am a liar, who is just a self serving his own interests, which you should lynch for lying.

OR believe I am telling the truth about my simple role.

For now I believe you're telling the truth about your role, because it seems like such a strange claim to be faking. You keep making it sound like you've done all you could do with your role - did you have an N0 action? Or does that go against the PR?

[ptlowe]

VOTE STREAKER btw: he was scum in that other gam, and lepards dont change there spots.

vote aladdin pnly scum vote for mods

vote
ptlowe

Yes... we should lynch ptlowe

@hotshot do it sooner next time

Trying to protect your scum buddy aladdin? Or are you trying to extend the joke voting stage you have tried so hard to end. Either way your posts are starting to be scummy.


Hey lets have the town vigilante claim so you can kill him n1. .brilliant.

So points against you and why i believe you are scum.
2nd person to use the "x person voted for mod! "joke"" Reads to me as someone not trying to figure the game out and skimming. WHy? because they are just looking at minor things.

I follow this up with your blatant omgus. with equally terrible reasons building upon. (I don't understand how you can accuse me of attempting to be joking regarding my vote on you) The bonus however, is that you resort to saying EITHER WAY, as in, it doesn't matter what i said, only that my posts are starting to appear scummy. To which i would love further explanation. How ever i shall assume its mainly based on my idea about vig claim day 1.

To which you make a snarky remark!, yet you provide no input. Seems to me, you skimmed posts, saw several people putting it down, and decided to go along with the rest. Aka bandwagoning.

blah blah blah blah

Your just trying to get me anoyed. Go hump a goat.

[StorrZerg]

Skoffin already stated that she was joking. To the one that asked about her posting in red earlier, she always posts in red. In past games we lynched her for it, but it didn't do any good since she'll do it as town, scum, and other.

are you saying she is incapable of making a play like that? Follow up, if there was a traitor in the game, Joking about it would be a great way to tip off mafia. Following that, of course its going to be admitted as a joke, why the hell would anyone say that it was an admittance of guilt lol?

We don't need to claim roles today unless they are at a point of getting lynched. That is scummy as hell.

SO would you deem ib as scummy then?

Storr we'll joke vote until we feel like stopping. Stop trying to control that aspect especially when we don't have a cop with a guilty verdict at this point.

can't help it. idc for the joke phase. and i do like controlling the game, im a very vocal person.

[ptlowe]

i really want to slap you slash... i can write paragraphs about why its important to move the stage of the game past a joke stage. Additionally, me trying to skip the joke stage does not have a direct correlation with people voting or not voting by the end of the game. If anything it has a net positive gain on forcing people to have to commit to a vote that isn't a joke vote. Something that can be analysed. To which, it would be terrible to have people at the end of the day with joke votes still out.

So the move was 100% intentional, i'm eager to find and lynch scum this game.

So in my last three games. A person who has asked for the joke phase to end HAS BEEN SCUM
A Person who has voted MOD has been SCUM.

Just thoughts so far.

[ptlowe]

Am I really being accussed of being a traitor?

First, it was a day 1 joke.
Second, I am not claiming traitor, I am claiming all of you are the traitors I am a good citizen

Your writing in red anoys me. Could you switch please lol

[ptlowe]

How does voting for HOTSHOT help anything. I dont get the claim or the action...Please explain

OK Joke vote over then.

I am going to claim.

I am Town "Insane Asylum Guard". For all practical purposes I am a Vanilla Townie. My role is very simple. I can save Town, in a limited fashion, a lot of problems. Certain things I can not say but you can read between the lines. You have two choices. You can lynch me as I have no problem taking one for the team if you need to verify my claim but that would be stupid or you can ....

LYNCH HOTSHOT

I feel it better and smarter to do this at beginning of game.

With a game of 28 players there must be a variety of factions and kill roles.

Now we shall see what can be mustered vote wise.

My vote stays.

[ptlowe]

Be ready to lose then if you are not town

This makes me slightly suspicious...it looks like an indirect way of asserting that you are Town, without actually coming right out and saying it, which would look even more suspicious. FOS @ Storr

BRAVO lol

For that you get unvoted

[ptlowe]

Thanks. My Bad.

VOTE HOTSHOT

@Storr.... Use your head. Your usually the cerebral logical one. Without claiming the information I have provided would have been lost.

I think you are claiming self aware miller that flips as mafia if you die. you don't have to confirm. But wink. If so that's truly a bastard role. Almost as much as a death miller. That shits dumb as rocks.


I find ib to be town for his actions.

Quote from mafia wiki
rather controversial twist is the Death Miller, whose alignment is shown as "Mafia" by the Moderator upon death. This has been argued and discussed in Ethics Threads as a source of distrust in the Moderator, which most people feel should not be tolerated. Thus, the Death Miller is an particularly scarcely-used role even in bastard mod games.

[ptlowe]

ok, aladin you have really rubbed me up the wrong way.

you are clearly scum as a townie would not commit murder the way you have done.....therefore unvote vote aladin

oh and before you ask who has been murdered, the victim is the english language.

don't think i can stand more than 2 weeks of this torture.

HAHAHAHAAHAHAH Spell English right. With a capital E.

Anyways you quieter than usual TWR. Usually your running your mouth like Stor makes me think you may be scum.

[AladdinSane]

I can say this as well. I do not need to be involved with specific lynches. It does not have to happen today or even tommorow but as the game wears on eventually it WILL need to be addressed. All your doing is giving more potential kills or havoc to anti town.

Here is my current take on IB. I think he is telling teh truth as much as he is allowed to. He might have an insight into Hotshot being scum but i think this is unlikely. I think a more likely possibility, and one that relates directly to his claimed role as a guard in an insane asylum, is that he has an insight into one or more dangerous escaped lunatics who will commit NKs, and that Hotshot might be one of these dangerous lunatics. IB's wincon might be all teh dangerous loonies being dead, which would be in Town's interests - and IB has said that his interests and Town's do fit together.

So, if we lynch Hotshot and he flips Town, it need not necessarily mean IB is scum.

I want to give this more thought, and wait for feedback, but if I am right then lynching Hotshot would be a good for Town.

[AladdinSane]

Incidentally, does anyone have a grip on how many scum their are likely to be? In my other game, it was 2/10. By extrapolation, that would be 5 or 6 in this game. On teh other hand, it is surprise Mafia, so I guess we ought to be prepared to be surprised.

[AladdinSane]

Further to my read on IB: he has said his purpose has been served, so if this theory is corect, he only knows about ONE escaped dangerus loony.

[Iron Butterfly]

Further to my read on IB: he has said his purpose has been served, so if this theory is corect, he only knows about ONE escaped dangerus loony.

DING DING DING

[StorrZerg]

by killing hotshot, you insure less people will die?

[Iron Butterfly]

Thanks. My Bad.

VOTE HOTSHOT

@Storr.... Use your head. Your usually the cerebral logical one. Without claiming the information I have provided would have been lost.

I think you are claiming self aware miller that flips as mafia if you die. you don't have to confirm. But wink. If so that's truly a bastard role. Almost as much as a death miller. That shits dumb as rocks.


I find ib to be town for his actions.

Quote from mafia wiki
rather controversial twist is the Death Miller, whose alignment is shown as "Mafia" by the Moderator upon death. This has been argued and discussed in Ethics Threads as a source of distrust in the Moderator, which most people feel should not be tolerated. Thus, the Death Miller is an particularly scarcely-used role even in bastard mod games.

Could this be a possibility? Who am I to say it is not. However I fully agree with the distaste many have and the ethical problems it causes.

Storr is also on the top of my Scum-o-meter as posting this as his first choice of what I may be while at the same time saying I am Town. I find it odd he would go to such an extreme role choice right off the bat.

Someone has to be lynched.

[StorrZerg]

well you claimed that your death pre claim would be pretty terrible. i can't imagine anything worse than a town showing up as a mafia